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Originally posted by Clark Savage Jr.
Interesting topic. Well thought out. Star and flag.
My opinion on the subject is that, while the year 1990 and the years directly following did in fact contain interesting events, a much more dramatic example of any 'paradigm'shift( new age-speak for rapid social/cultural changes?) would have to be the period from 1963 onward to the early 1970's.
Originally posted by mattifikation
Oh, and there was no Emo in the 90's. I really, really, really, really, REALLY miss there not being an Emo scene.
Originally posted by AnonymousMoose
It is post-modern society.
It is crazy to see how much changed between the 80s and 90s...I remember when MTV wouldn't play the song "big butts" till after 9pm...in the 90s they began playing rap music with half naked chiks all afternoon.
We have become more individualistic, more self serving and selfish... the family and values and ethics have taken a back seat.
Political Correctness has become the new ethical standard...who cares if you bang your secretary while your wife is away with the kids, as long as you are PC, and now also, as long as you are 'green', then you are ok, you are a good person at heart.
What will the next few decades bring? I don't think ethics values and the family will be propped back up anytime soon
Originally posted by TailoredVagabond
Spot on. Though the causes would be REALLY interesting. I think the UK/US relationships in popular culture (Beavis & Butthead, Nirvana, Oasis, Rave Music, Rise of ecstasy pills etc) have proven to pull mainstream thinking into a more progressive mindset. Also the rise on windows programmes contributed to firstly everyone becoming familiar with PCs and the web, and now to the modern day Youtube generation.
Couple all this with the back-end of a prolonged recession (tame by today's standards) and slump in western manufacturing and you have a huge cultural shift that has kept people on heir backsides and demanding more in less time (instant messaging, instant noodles, high speed broadband), so much so that people, clearly, don't know how to save money (ahem, recession/financial crisis built upon uncontrollable bad debt)... there's lots of consequences of teh shift you mention.
Excellent post - S&F.
Originally posted by glitch88
I think it would be interesting to know the ages of the people in this topic. I can almost bet that most of you are are about my age (27).
I hated the 80's. I loved the 90's and thought that (and still feel this way) that there was a radical shift in thinking during "my" era. Nothing before or after can hold a torch to the 90's in my opinion. I still wear my jeans until there are so many holes and rips in them that they are not even suitable as shop rags. The only shoes I own are black docs and plain black thong flip flops. My mp3 player is filled with nothing but 90's music of the non-pop variety.
My sister was a child of the 80's. She hates the 70's and thinks the style and culture of the 90's was awful and self serving (much the same way that I veiw the current culture). Up until recently, she still had a hairstyle that resembled a mullet.
My mother-in-law was a hippy and thinks that society as a whole has become morons and she longs for the culture of her day. You can tell she was a hippy by the way she dresses.
My point is that everyone is going to have their own prejudices about which decade was more enlightened based on which decade was their "heyday", as it were. There has always been a "cult of the glorious past" and that "glorious past" has always been subjective.
[edit on 6/11/2009 by glitch88 - Smileys won't play nice]
[edit on 6/11/2009 by glitch88]
Originally posted by gravykraken
disillusionment. the generation before trusted it's leaders. kids of the 60's have kids that are teenagers by 1990. in order to maintain cohesion, many families had to experience a 'paradigm shift' or dissolve. (would be my guess.) out with the old, in with the new.
Originally posted by mattifikation
reply to post by Donnie Darko
Actually, Emo originated all the way back in the 80's. The big difference between Emo in the 80's and Emo in the 90's was that it stayed in obscurity where it rightfully belongs. ;-)