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1976 Tehran UFO incident

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posted on Jun, 10 2009 @ 04:52 PM
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Here is a new presentation of the
1976 Tehran UFO incident

I gave it a new thread as I feel the video is very well done and deserves attention



Couple other info links as filler


en.wikipedia.org...

www.ufoencounters.co.uk...

Thoughts on this video?





posted on Jun, 10 2009 @ 05:00 PM
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we know what the bright lights were not
They were not stars
They were not soviet jets
What were they? Hmm
My spidey sense is tingling on this one



posted on Jun, 10 2009 @ 05:22 PM
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I used to think the systems failure was just a side effect of getting too close to a UFO, and their energy source disrupting our systems by mistake.

But with this case it looks like the UFOs might have an ability to focus on a target and disable important systems with possibly a single thought.

It's pretty cool how the UFO didn't destroy the jet though. These things would most likely have weapon systems beyond anything we're aware of, but they chose to just say "hey, back off" without annihilating the pilot.



posted on Jun, 10 2009 @ 05:35 PM
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One of the BEST, PROPERLY DOCUMENTED case out there, IMHO.

Iran has had several great cases, this being the best.



posted on Jun, 10 2009 @ 05:41 PM
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At approximately 2:10 the narrator says 'closing at 150 NM/hr and at a range of 25NM, the object began to move'. An F-4 has a hard time flying at 150 kts., and if the object was stationary at that time, a closing speed would indicate an airspeed of 150.

Further, this happened just two weeks after V. I. Belenko had defected w/ a MIG-25. I expect that the 'high importance' given the sighting was due to the ramping up of East-West tensions during this time. Further, per the clip, as the closest approach was 4NM, and the object was not identified, there would be interest within the intel community as to what this was.

Interesting, as it was near the USSR.



posted on Jun, 10 2009 @ 06:07 PM
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Originally posted by dmorgan
It's pretty cool how the UFO didn't destroy the jet though. These things would most likely have weapon systems beyond anything we're aware of, but they chose to just say "hey, back off" without annihilating the pilot.


Would they need a weapon if they could just turn off the plane? Seems they can shut down systems selectively as the pilot was able to turn away so noy all controls were effected.



posted on Jun, 17 2009 @ 08:14 PM
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Yes, the most interesting thing on this one is the selective systems shut down. First thing that comes to mind is an emp, but that would shut down the plane entirely...wouldn't it? Do military aircraft have a defense to emp's, I'm mean..are they shielded from emp's.
Can an emp be focused like a laser?

If they are(shielded), then electro magnetic pulse is not the way they are interfering with these fighters...

Of course...In my opinion



posted on Jun, 17 2009 @ 08:28 PM
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This case is very similar to the Milton Torres case.



posted on Jun, 17 2009 @ 08:28 PM
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reply to post by zorgon
 


Thank you zorgon. I had seen this video a while ago, I am especially interested with the part near the end, about the reports going through DIA through CIA and The White House, additionally given a major priority and importance. I wonder if you could elaborate a little on that



posted on Jun, 17 2009 @ 08:34 PM
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Just wanted to add the link to the corresponding FOIA documentation on this one.


Tehran UFO FOIA

If you go check it out you will see that ecoli was trying to say that he had evidence in this case, but he never provided any.


[edit on 17-6-2009 by desertdreamer]



posted on Jun, 17 2009 @ 09:12 PM
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I had to move some files as you bring outside the USA would not be able to access them
and I figured you wouldn't want to visit the NSA anyway



www.thelivingmoon.com...

www.thelivingmoon.com...

Enjoy

PS They are easier to read that Cliff's copies



posted on Jun, 17 2009 @ 09:22 PM
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Originally posted by zorgon
I had to move some files as you bring outside the USA would not be able to access them
and I figured you wouldn't want to visit the NSA anyway


Actually, I was really keen on that Hyperspace Navy.mil one! - But oh well, how many people can access that anyway?


Thank you for the PDFs, Tehran 76 is probably my favorite case as you can imagine. Care for some interesting PDFs in my possession concerning Tesla, Von Braun, and Einstein? - Or do you already got em?



posted on Jun, 17 2009 @ 09:24 PM
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Not a lot to say here other than it's fun video.

This case is one of my favorites.



posted on Jun, 17 2009 @ 09:42 PM
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Originally posted by MajorionCare for some interesting PDFs in my possession concerning Tesla, Von Braun, and Einstein? - Or do you already got em?


Silly Lemming Of course I would and how would I know if I have them if you don't give me a list?



posted on Jun, 18 2009 @ 04:02 AM
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This is one of the top five cases, in my humble opinion;
a good description can be found also here. There's also a spectacular thread by OzWeatherman, The 1976 Tehran, F-4 Phantom Chases UFO Case: there's also this post FOIA: UFO Sighting in Iran, 1976 by e.coli and this one by AboveTopSecret.com
Report on Sighting of UFO in Iran, Sept, 1976
A report regarding a sighting of a UFO by four witnesses in Iran
Document date: 1976-09-19
Department: USAF?
Author: Not Stated
Document type: report
pages: 3
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Teheran Ufo Case, 1976 : Interview with Iranian Pilot
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DRAWING BASED ON A SKETCH AND DESCRIPTION BY PIROUZI (Courtesy: Bruce Maccabee)


“Suddenly it appeared at another position one mile further on.” That is, it was slowly traveling north but suddenly it disappeared and a few seconds later appeared at a further north location. Pirouzi also said it moved southward at times. “I could see it this time as bright as a sun. It was all yellow, like a star, but much bigger. Then it appeared to me to be like a starfish. I can’t be sure of the order of the colors but there were blue, orange, red and yellow lights.”



THE ABOVE DRAWINGS ARE BASED ON SKETCHES AND DESCRIPTIONS BY PIROUZI (Courtesy: Bruce Maccabee)


Pirouzi gave the binoculars to the others present and “they saw the object as a half-circle, in the same colors, blue, range, red and yellow.” The object seemed to change it’s shape. While Pirouzi over several minutes watched the apparent shape seemed to change from cylindrical, with blue ends and a red light going around the middle, to a fan like shape with drooping blades (“starfish” shaped) with fuzzy edges. The “blades” were dark orange near the hub changing to yellow at the tips. “The hub itself was made up of two concentric areas of color. There seemed to be a large green surface and then a smaller core which glowed like a piece of red hot coal.” One of the trainee witnesses compared it to an orange-red horseshoe with a blue area in the enclosed space of the horseshoe.


MAP OF TEHRAN SHOWING THE VARIOUS APPARENT LOCATIONS OF THE UFO ACCORDING TO PIROUZI (Courtesy: Bruce Maccabee)

MACH 2 IS NOT ENOUGH: THE FIRST JET CHASE


Jafari put the “pedal to the metal” and reached a speed of about Mach 2 (1,500 mph or 25 miles per minute) and still couldn’t catch it. He was flying toward the Afghanistan, about 500 miles east of Tehran. Youssefi ordered him to return to Tehran if he couldn’t catch it, so Jafari turned and headed back eastward. The object also reversed direction and begn to chase the plane. In a short section of an audio tape recording (I presume made at the Air Traffic Control Center at Mehrabad) that was published in a local newspaper (see below), Jafari reported “something is coming at me from behind. It is 15 miles away…now ten miles…now five miles…It is level now…I think it is going to crash into me…It has just passed me by..missing me narrowly..” According to the newspaper report, “The disturbed voice of the pilot was clear on the tape. He then asked to be guided back to base.”




According to the Air Force teletype message, based on the interview of the second pilot during the following day, the “backseater acquired a radar lock on at 27 nm, 12 o’clock high position with the VC (rate of closure) at 150 mph. As the range decreased to 25 nm the object moved away at a speed that was visible on the radar scope and stayed at 25 nm.” [Comment: to decrease the distance by 2 nm when the rate of closure is 150 nm/hr would require about 48 seconds. Apparently the VC decreased as the object sped up, meaning that the lock-on period was definitely longer than 48 seconds.] The AF teletype message further states, “The size of the (radar) return was comparable to a 707 tanker. The visual size of the object was difficult to discern because of its intense brilliance. The light that it gave off was that of flashing strobe lights arranged in a rectangular pattern and alternating blue, green, red and orange in color. The sequence of the lights was so fast that all the colors could be seen at once.”

DRAWING BASED ON THE DESCRIPTION BY ONE OF THE PILOTS (Courtesy: Bruce Maccabee)

The pilots were interviewed the next day. The Military Assistance and Advisory Group (MAAG), in the person of Lt. Col. Mooy, sat in on the interview of the second pilot who landed at Mehrebad. (Only a second hand, and very shortened, version of the first pilot’s story was available to Col. Mooy.) This interview forms the core of the official teletype message that was sent to many USA military and intelligence agencies including the three armed services, the CIA, National Security Agency (NSA), the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) and the White House.


As indicated in the above list of recipients of the teletype message, the Defense Intelligence Agency of the U. S. Government got a copy of this teletype, as did the Chief of Staff of the Air Force (CSAF), the Chief of Naval Operations (CNO), the Chief of Staff of the Army (CSA), the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), the National Security Agency (NSA), the White House, the Secretary of State (SECSTATE), the Deputy Undersecretary of Defense (DEPSECDEF) and others.

Col. Roland Evans wrote an evaluation of the report, dated October 12, 1976. Evans wrote:


1) An outstanding report: this case is a classic which meets all the criteria necessary for a valid study of UFO phenomena
a. The object was seen by multiple witnesses from different locations (i.e., Shemiran, Mehrebad and the dry lake bed) and viewpoints (both airborne and from the ground)
b. The credibility of many of the witnesses was high (an Air Force General, qualified aircrews and experienced tower operators)
c. Visual sightings were confirmed by radar
d. Similar electromagnetic effects (EME) were reported by three separate aircraft [Note: this refers to the electomagnetic interference reported by the jets and the commercial airliner]
e. There were physiological effects on some crew members (i.e., loss of night vision due to the brightness of the object)
f. An inordinate amount of maneuverability was displayed by the UFOs
The report evaluation form indicated that the reliability of the information was “confirmed by other sources” and the value of the information was “High (Unique, Timely and of Major Significance).” The information would be “Potentially Useful” as “Current Intelligence.”


Full Article by Bruce Maccabee



The entire report can be found here.

The text of the teletype report to the Pentagon and other Federal agencies




posted on Jul, 27 2009 @ 05:17 PM
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I think internos just about covered everything in detail, but here is part one of the UFO Hunters episode on "UFO Dogfights". It contains some of the more recent theories on the case...



[edit on 7/27/2009 by jkrog08]



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