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Hi / You made a comment about 616 being the proper wording of the New Testament....And YET,
No I didn't, I merely observed that the earliest reference to the number of the beast in the Book Of Revelation stated the number was 616.
From this we can deduce quite reasonably that -
(A) There was an error in translation/copying from the original/earlier books to later books.
(B) The number allocated to the beast in John was 616 as this is the earliest know reference to the beast in the Revelation.
You failed to answer me where it is found in the Old Testament? Why? Here in the Old Testament.... Kings 111 chapter 10:14... 14 English translation... 14 And the weight of gold that came to Solomon in one year was six hundred and sixty-six talents of gold.
I didn't fail to answer I simply ignored it as I was referring to the number of the beast in the book of revelation. This has zero relationship with the book of Kings.
Incidentally, if the number of the beast had been discussed prior to revelation ,then given the tendency of the gospel authors to desperately grasp at straws to show a link to the OT, one would expect John to have alluded to this.
Here lies where Solomon fell INTO worship of the False gods... So
You are desperately trying to draw a connection here, as you're aware Solomon was turned by his wives (Once again biblical misogyny turns up) toward 3 other gods all mentioned by name one of them being female. Not one of these gods is allocated a number let alone the number you claim,.After all , why would the author of this chapter need a secret number when he's allready named them ?
So out of the entire bible the number 666 turns up in kings along with 600/300/3/6/2/6/12/700/. This magically makes 666 in revelation right ?
it remains that it is 666 and not the falsified 616 or whatever other falsified scriptures people come up with.
Originally posted by watchtheashes
reply to post by helen670
When did I ever say that? I know they are three parts of the One True God but He is in the Father and the Father is in Him. I know this. I think you might have misunderstood what I meant because I don't even see where you're talking about. I'm not kidding. Maitreya is coming. Nephilim and fallen angels are coming. Yeshua the Christ is coming to defeat them. See Maitreya will have a partner who has the looks of the Jesus we see in paintings and the like around the world. Imagine people's reaction to this. In fact I think the first such painting was from demonic inspiration. Lying signs and wonders. If I pray that evil stays away all the time then how am I deceived? I don't think demons would point out what I am missing from faith and what sins I commit when I commit them. I would think they would want to make me do them. I've dealt with evil forces and they're not what I would call "fun." Now killing "aliens" might be fun. I'm quite serious. I think you mean when I described to pray to the Father through His Son. Meaning acknowledge Yeshua, and pray to the Father. He says this in the Gospels to pray to Yahweh in Heaven not to the Son but through Him because He is our Mediator.
Originally posted by watchtheashes
Bombeni is right you know. Yeshua is "salvation now" and is always available to ask for help.
TextOf all the atheists on ATS, and I hate the fact that I am going to really make your day, you are by far the most prolific.
Some people want to know what the spirit of antichrist is, all they have to do is look at you
quote] You have taken on the most completely pure and loving Being that ever walked the face of the earth
and made it your goal to mock and shame Him;
I'm not judging you
for there is One who will do that one day, I am telling you though that I would hate to be standing in your shoes. You should repent and soon.
. Jesus warned that such men would be among us, they obviously fell under the temptation of Satan who promised them power and fame and riches.
in love and appreciation of the great Sacrifice He made for us.
Let's put it this way! God is the creater of all. God created all the Angels....YES? and Lucifer fell because he COULD NOT become GOD. TRUE?
This is a reminder for us, Jesus did not come for 99, but for the one lost sheep.
O Lord, Almighty God of our fathers, Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, and of their righteous seed; who hast made heaven and earth, with all the ornament thereof; who hast bound the sea by the word of thy commandment; who hast shut up the deep, and sealed it by thy terrible and glorious name; whom all men fear, and tremble before thy power; for the majesty of thy glory cannot be borne, and thine angry threatening toward sinners is importable: but thy merciful promise is unmeasurable and unsearchable; for thou art the most high Lord, of great compassion, longsuffering, very merciful, and repentest of the evils of men. Thou, O Lord, according to thy great goodness hast promised repentance and forgiveness to them that have sinned against thee: and of thine infinite mercies hast appointed repentance unto sinners, that they may be saved. Thou therefore, O Lord, that art the God of the just, hast not appointed repentance to the just, as to Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, which have not sinned against thee; but thou hast appointed repentance unto me that am a sinner: for I have sinned above the number of the sands of the sea. My transgressions, O Lord, are multiplied: my transgressions are multiplied, and I am not worthy to behold and see the height of heaven for the multitude of mine iniquities. I am bowed down with many iron bands, that I cannot life up mine head, neither have any release: for I have provoked thy wrath, and done evil before thee: I did not thy will, neither kept I thy commandments: I have set up abominations, and have multiplied offences. Now therefore I bow the knee of mine heart, beseeching thee of grace. I have sinned, O Lord, I have sinned, and I acknowledge mine iniquities: wherefore, I humbly beseech thee, forgive me, O Lord, forgive me, and destroy me not with mine iniquites. Be not angry with me for ever, by reserving evil for me; neither condemn me to the lower parts of the earth. For thou art the God, even the God of them that repent; and in me thou wilt shew all thy goodness: for thou wilt save me, that am unworthy, according to thy great mercy. Therefore I will praise thee for ever all the days of my life: for all the powers of the heavens do praise thee, and thine is the glory for ever and ever. Amen.
No, I'm not judging you, you should be so lucky. But as a Christian, one baptized in the Holy Spirit, covered in The Blood,
YES, I know when I am the presence of evil, and I am simply calling it out. You mock God to the outer limits then when someone PEGS you for the servent of Satan that you are, you tuck your tail under your legs---
just what I would expect from an antichrist spirit---they talk big but when push comes to shove they know they have no power over Christ.
Then, you say Who, little ol me? Be a man and at least garner that much of what little respect you have left. You are so filled with hate and sheer meanness that it transcends the internet
I can feel the hairs on the back of my neck doing what they did when I've been in unsavory situations, you ever heard of the "fight or flight" syndrome?
My intution says choose flight where you are concerned.
But at the same time I am saying a prayer for you to be delivered from the grip of Evil.
The short history of the Bible code controversy has been characterized by premature and unfounded leaps to conclusions by both code skeptics and code proponents. To an extent, this is very understandable. The world at large demands a bottom line, and so each spokesman, after conducting his or her own investigation, is obligated to provide a summary conclusion, whether or not the data is conclusive. We at the Digest have not been immune from that temptation. Among the various tacks that spokesmen have taken, one is particularly difficult to comprehend. It is that of the code skeptic who claims a strong belief in an omnipotent, omniscient God, but who then tries to confine God into a box that the skeptic has defined. In terms of Bible codes, they say that if God hasn't done things the way the code skeptic has predetermined, then God hasn't encoded anything at all. This approach is more than a bit like the man who says, "God, if you are real, prove yourself by striking this tree with lightning in the next ten minutes." In religious jargon, this practice is called "testing God," and it is denounced in Exodus 17:7, Deuteronomy 6:16 and Matthew 4:7. Now code skeptics who don't believe in God won't care about whether or not they are "testing God." What is harder to understand are skeptics who clearly profess a Judeo-Christian belief in God and then proceed to tightly specify the box into which God's activity must conform for it to be "acceptable." Somehow it seems a bit brazen for a finite man to place exacting demands on an infinite God, and when God doesn't comply, the finite man flunks God. biblecodedigest.com
Opponents of Bible codes say that you can find meaningful clusters in any book. To support their case, they presented an example of a code cluster about Hanukah they found in Tolstoy's War and Peace. While this example was fairly comparable to clusters Bible code researchers had presented back then, our researchers have unearthed clusters that look like mountains compared to the molehill of the Hanukah example. In this report we present a detailed side-by-side comparison of the Hanukah example and the most extensive cluster researchers have located to date-- the explosive Isaiah 53 codes. In short, what skeptics told us three years ago is now completely out of date.
Originally posted by miragezero
reply to post by moocowman
Give it up man, the light is not going to come on for them. Let them continue to sling verses at eachother... Thank god for the Novus Ordo Seclorum they so despise otherwise this would be the middle east part deux.