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Topic started on 10-6-2009 @ 01:37 PM by elfie
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The search for ET just got easier
www.physorg.com...
Science and Technology Facilities Council's (STFC) William Herschel Telescope (WHT) on La Palma have confirmed an effective way to search the
atmospheres of planets for signs of life, vastly improving our chances of finding alien life outside our solar system.
Scientists are using the transmission spectrum of our planet as a comparison to search for life on exoplanets. This method will be used to observe
planets that are being located through various exoplanet surveys .
Primers on Spectroscopy:
www.enchantedlearning.com...
www.sciencelives.com...
astronomyonline.org...
Links:
IAC
www.iac.es...
WHT
www.ing.iac.es...
This is exciting news indeed! Between the Kepler Mission and expanded SETI capabilities
(bandwidth search being increased this month with new equipment installation at Arecibo) I'm very encouraged that our search may reveal news sooner
than later.
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reply posted on 10-6-2009 @ 01:42 PM by warrenb
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reply posted on 10-6-2009 @ 01:52 PM by Kevin_X1
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seems like every month they come out with a revolutionary peice of technology in the search for alien planets. If your interested, like i am, i look
at ScienceDaily.com... daily. its a really good website with tons of interesting articles... but more uninteresting ones. But, that sort of adds to
the credibility to me, as they cover the entire world of science as opposed to just pseudoscience
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reply posted on 10-6-2009 @ 01:53 PM by elfie
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It certainly would be a step up to actually have an idea of where they are coming from.  Wish I could explain some of the anomalies. I find
the transmission that was cut off mid sentence very interesting--forget which mission.
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reply posted on 10-6-2009 @ 01:57 PM by ELECTRICkoolaidZOMBIEtest
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OBVIOUSLY the people at SETI were on a smokebreak. if they were at their workstations (or whtever seti has) we would have proof of all those aliens by
now.
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reply posted on 10-6-2009 @ 01:59 PM by elfie
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Thanks for the tip! I've seen both Physorg and Science Daily chided for their enthusiasm at times but I find it's a good way to generate interest
in science.
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reply posted on 10-6-2009 @ 02:25 PM by ngchunter
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Originally posted by warrenb
reply to post by elfie
Scientists fail to detect NASA Space Critters
yet they are clearly seen in almost every NASA video
There's plenty of debris around the shuttle. Flash evaporators that manage excess heat can also create ice floating near the orbiter. Combine with
RCS thruster firings to create some interesting videos.
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reply posted on 10-6-2009 @ 02:31 PM by tothetenthpower
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Well, more propaganda from NASA and "scentists" claiming to be searching for life on other planets. Obviously they already know this and this is
just part of the civilian cover up program.
Man I hope the French actually come through with their disclosure project. I'm not holding my breath, but it would be nice.
~Keeper
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reply posted on 10-6-2009 @ 02:36 PM by Komodo
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Originally posted by ngchunter
Originally posted by warrenb
reply to post by elfie
Scientists fail to detect NASA Space Critters
yet they are clearly seen in almost every NASA video
There's plenty of debris around the shuttle. Flash evaporators that manage excess heat can also create ice floating near the orbiter. Combine with
RCS thruster firings to create some interesting videos.
oh you mean like this one?? !!! cuz' i seriously fail to see how 'space debris' can navigate to certain points in space...STOP, and re-adjust and
do delta V- directions.. !!!!! but hey.. i'm sure there isn't intelligence behind all the navigation.. oh.. and I don't believe the 'tether' just
happend to 'snap' because of the weight.. but..i'll save that for another thread.
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reply posted on 10-6-2009 @ 02:40 PM by stevcolx
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The tether snapped because it developed a short circuit. Your right about the 'debris' It's not debris. They are definately UFO's!!
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reply posted on 10-6-2009 @ 02:47 PM by warrenb
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some people are too indoctrinated for their brain to believe what their eyes are seeing and in turn accept any dim witted answer given by official
sources without any further thought to the matter. Oh and they love defending their obviously flawed logic to the point that they become abusive and
angry when unable to defend the ridiculous suppositions.
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reply posted on 10-6-2009 @ 04:28 PM by elfie
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I included links at the end of the post. It's a project funded through the UK in conjunction with the ESA. No need for 'scientists' to appear
in quotes, they are scientists.
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reply posted on 10-6-2009 @ 04:55 PM by ngchunter
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Originally posted by Komodo
oh you mean like this one?? !!! cuz' i seriously fail to see how 'space debris' can navigate to certain points in space...STOP, and re-adjust and
do delta V- directions.. !!!!!
It's easy if the debris is affected by a thruster firing or if spacecraft is doing a small translation maneuver; in the latter case it appears like
the debris is moving while it's actually the spaceship that is moving, but because earth is so far away you can't tell any perceptible difference in
the motion of the planet with respect to the spacecraft. As for the debris in the tether video, it's plainly obvious that it's much closer to the
lens of the camera than the tether is, which is why they're all the same shape; they're badly out of focus because they're too close to the camera.
The funny shape is the reflection of the camera's optics, I get the same effect in my telescope all the time whenever a tiny point of light is out
of focus.
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reply posted on 10-6-2009 @ 04:59 PM by ngchunter
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Originally posted by warrenb
Oh and they love defending their obviously flawed logic to the point that they become abusive and angry when unable to defend the ridiculous
suppositions.
I thought my post was incredibly calm. Komodo's, on the other hand, seems to be full of exclamation points, caps, and reads somewhat angry or at
least annoyed. I'm surprised you didn't see the irony in your own statement.
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reply posted on 10-6-2009 @ 08:01 PM by Chemley
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Question. Did you mean "tiny point of light" as in a light source i.e. energy or perhaps reflections?
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reply posted on 10-6-2009 @ 08:15 PM by warrenb
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It was a generalization but I can see how you could assume it was directed at you. In any event...
In regards to the 'debris' I wont bother debating because you're ensconced with your view and I am with mine. Fairs fair.
Getting back on 'topic'. Pretty neat that they've developed this new tech stuff isn't it?
We haven't explored every square inch of the earth yet and we are already finding new things way out in the depths of space.
*edit typo
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reply posted on 10-6-2009 @ 08:18 PM by tothetenthpower
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Nopes..any "scientist" who works for the ESA is just a figure head. Now the people who work at groom lake are scientists.
And I put the quotes because they never come up with any real science, they say what they are told to say.
~Keeper
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reply posted on 10-6-2009 @ 09:54 PM by elfie
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I'd be interested in knowing how you have come to the conclusion that the only scientists on Earth work at Groom Lake. Kind of a stretch, at best.
Aside from the Letter to appear in Nature tomorrow (mentioned in the original article) I didn't have any difficulty finding a paper by the scientist
in question:
EARTHSHINE OBSERVATIONS OF AN INHABITED PLANET, Enric Palle
arxiv.org...
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reply posted on 10-6-2009 @ 10:26 PM by Jbird
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Back on course, please...
Scientists are using the transmission spectrum of our planet as a comparison to search for life on exoplanets. This method will be used to observe
planets that are being located through various exoplanet surveys .
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reply posted on 10-6-2009 @ 11:55 PM by The Cyfre
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Good find, but to say this practice makes it easier is a bit of a stretch since we have never identified life on other planets. I think you first have
to confirm that it exists somewhere else before figuring out which methods are easier than others. Until we can confirm life on other planets, it's
all impossible.
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