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Canada frosts the most widespread in recent memory

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posted on Jun, 10 2009 @ 12:54 PM
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Canada frosts the most widespread in recent memory


www.reuters.com

The multiple frosts that have blanketed Western Canada in the last week are the most widespread in the top canola-growing province of Saskatchewan in at least five years, the Canola Council of Canada said on Tuesday.

Two overnight frosts last week have already resulted in some Saskatchewan farmers reseeding their canola, a Canadian variant of rapeseed, said Jim Bessel, senior agronomy specialist in the province for the industry group Canola Council.

(visit the link for the full news article)




posted on Jun, 10 2009 @ 12:54 PM
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Is good to see that nature is showing who is boss. Canada is not the only place experiencing "cold" temperatures, I am in Wyoming and right now temps are about 45 degrees and it seems it is goig to remain cold for at least one, or two weeks if not longer.

This should be a clear sign for people to realize that the claim that anthropogenic CO2 is to blame for "excessive warming" is baloney and nothing more than a scam to control people more and to make the rich richer, and the medium, and poor classes around the world poorer.

Good for "Mother Nature" to show the world who is boss.

www.reuters.com
(visit the link for the full news article)

[edit on 10-6-2009 by ElectricUniverse]



posted on Jun, 10 2009 @ 01:11 PM
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I wondered why I haven't heard much of Al Gore lately. Oh well, I'm sure he doesn't care- He made millions before he bugged out, unless he's still making the rounds wailing about manmade global warming for profit to his hardcore loyalists.

Got to love Mother Nature working in mysterious ways to throw doubt in people's minds about the MSM, leading them to ask questions, leading them to wake up



posted on Jun, 10 2009 @ 01:12 PM
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I believe it was on Fox News yesterday. Accuweather is predicting NO SUMMER for the northeast. Included in the area of concern is the Michigan, Wisconsin area and lower parts of Canada. The Accuweather system foresees uncommonly cool weather for the midwest but above average temperatures for Florida and Texas this coming summer. Interesting! Mother Nature fights back against global warming



posted on Jun, 10 2009 @ 01:14 PM
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There is another factor at work here as well:


A sustained coupled development of La Niña conditions in the tropical Pacific ocean-atmosphere system would be highly unusual so late in the year, and in the recent 50-year historical record, has rarely or arguably never been the precursor of a multi-season La Niña event. Consistent with these historical experiences, current forecasts from dynamical and statistical models suggest that the current La Niña conditions will most likely dissipate over the next couple of months.

www.wmo.ch...



It said the other impacts are below average temperatures in the Pacific Northwest and above average temperatures in much of the southern United States.

www.reuters.com...


Some more:

www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov...

I'm not convinced that La Nina or CO2 is the only contributer to the cool weather in much of N America this spring. There's also the solar minimum to consider as well.

What I DO know is that this spring has been bloody cold and consistently below average temps for this time of the year.

Let's hope El Nino stays away for a couple of years, though, especially for those affected by hurricanes.



posted on Jun, 10 2009 @ 01:16 PM
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56 F here in South West Michigan when it should be in the mid 70's. Turned the furnace on this morning to take a shower. On the plus side the mosquito population is down.



posted on Jun, 10 2009 @ 01:22 PM
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Its been quite cool down south for the summer as well. Its currently in the 80s, which is Spring weather not Summer.

The Sun is still putting off less energy and is blank, meaning no sunspots.

spaceweather.com...

If this keeps up we are going to have a nasty winter. Throw the H1N1 virus into the mix and it sounds like this fall/winter is going to just be loads of fun.



posted on Jun, 10 2009 @ 01:22 PM
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Hey, snow in June is always fun.

Its been a cold spring and very cold June so far.



posted on Jun, 10 2009 @ 01:24 PM
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You all don't understand! This is the result of actions of GW proponents. Couple of Earth days - and there you go, temperature drops. So wait for carbon taxes - we will freeze to death.

Seriously -Earth climate is changing, it is not arguable. As happened all throughout Earth history much much before herds of farting cows and factories.
And this "GW due to carbon" school that simply doesn't allow its opponents to speak is not helping us. It is a theory. There are other theories.



posted on Jun, 10 2009 @ 02:21 PM
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well.. this article is a half truth... as a person living in B.C, I can tell you, none of this applies.

on the west coast/most of bc has been extremely dry and extremely hot.. no, there is no frost.
usually June is our last rainy month before summer but we haven't had rain for about a month AND it's been smoking hot..

just try and not lump "western Canada" together, it's a big MF'ing place.



posted on Jun, 10 2009 @ 02:23 PM
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so what if there are less sunspots.. the sun is as strong as ever... we are averaging a UV rating of 7 or 8 every day..
burning in 15-20 makes it hard to believe you.

(thank fully the sunspots are waking up now.)



posted on Jun, 10 2009 @ 02:25 PM
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Originally posted by masqua
There is another factor at work here as well:


A sustained coupled development of La Niña conditions in the tropical Pacific ocean-atmosphere system would be highly unusual so late in the year, and in the recent 50-year historical record, has rarely or arguably never been the precursor of a multi-season La Niña event. Consistent with these historical experiences, current forecasts from dynamical and statistical models suggest that the current La Niña conditions will most likely dissipate over the next couple of months.

www.wmo.ch...



It said the other impacts are below average temperatures in the Pacific Northwest and above average temperatures in much of the southern United States.

www.reuters.com...


Some more:

www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov...

I'm not convinced that La Nina or CO2 is the only contributer to the cool weather in much of N America this spring. There's also the solar minimum to consider as well.

What I DO know is that this spring has been bloody cold and consistently below average temps for this time of the year.

Let's hope El Nino stays away for a couple of years, though, especially for those affected by hurricanes.




it hasn't been cold everywhere.. so your sun theory doesn't work..

it's been smoking hot in western canada... we have the same sun as you.

everyone keeps making blanket statements, which aren't true.



posted on Jun, 10 2009 @ 02:32 PM
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It seems that people all over are experiencing differences in what they consider "normal" temps for their areas.

For several weeks in our area we were at least 20 degrees above normal for spring. Bloody HOT. My garden plants started acing as if it was the hottest part of summer, and even though they were very young (spring time age), they started "going to seed", which most of them should not be doing until late August, early September.

The last few weeks have been closer to where we should be, though very strange. Very hot one day and having to use the air conditioner, and then cold enough the next to have to use the heater in the early morning.

Very strange indeed.

Harm None
Peace



posted on Jun, 10 2009 @ 02:48 PM
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We have had an unusually cold season here as well. There is a lot of research about how we are actually on the verge of another little ice age. Many scientists believe we could be heading into one right now!



posted on Jun, 11 2009 @ 02:05 AM
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Originally posted by pynner

it hasn't been cold everywhere.. so your sun theory doesn't work..

it's been smoking hot in western canada... we have the same sun as you.

everyone keeps making blanket statements, which aren't true.


Thats because the oceans are the greatest storage for extra heat during the times of high solar activity, and this heat is slowly released into the atmosphere.

But as another member said, if this continues we will see lower temperatures and possibly even a LIA, and then you, and the rest of the AGW proponents will be begging for real warming.

There is a research paper from 2008 which alongside other research and what other scientists are saying the land warming has been caused by ocean warming, and not by greenhouse gases.



[edit on 11-6-2009 by ElectricUniverse]



posted on Jun, 11 2009 @ 02:07 AM
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One of the things some of us ahve been trying to point out for years is thatwhat we have been experiencing for the past 2-3 years are both extremes of cold, and hot weather events, and this is a sign of natural Climate Change, and not because of mankind's activities.

If you do want to do something for Earth and the environment, speak up to your representatives, and the AGW crowd about the large plastic islands in the oceans, and the toxic waste being released into the oceans freely by countries such as China, Russia, India, and others, and yes including some companies in the U.S. and the western world.



[edit on 11-6-2009 by ElectricUniverse]



posted on Jun, 11 2009 @ 02:26 AM
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Originally posted by ElectricUniverse

Originally posted by pynner

it hasn't been cold everywhere.. so your sun theory doesn't work..

it's been smoking hot in western canada... we have the same sun as you.

everyone keeps making blanket statements, which aren't true.


Thats because the oceans are the greatest storage for extra heat during the times of high solar activity, and this heat is slowly released into the atmosphere.

But as another member said, if this continues we will see lower temperatures and possibly even a LIA, and then you, and the rest of the AGW proponents will be begging for real warming.

There is a research paper from 2008 which alongside other research and what other scientists are saying the land warming has been caused by ocean warming, and not by greenhouse gases.



[edit on 11-6-2009 by ElectricUniverse]



"and the rest of the AGW proponents will be begging for real warming."

wtf?
why am I being labeled as such? you posted the article/thread.. read it again... it's about frost, which is what I was talking about.. the article made a blanket statement which wasn't 100% true.

I personally think we are headed for an ice age... but that's neither here nor there.. it's not the thread topic.

also, I really doubt any of us have a full understanding of solar cycles/weather patterns/global climate change.... save the quotes and articles.



posted on Jun, 11 2009 @ 02:48 AM
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Nobody can know for sure at this point. I know for sure that in the 12 years that I have lived in Arizona that this is the first time that anyone would wear a sweater outside in June. I have never seen temps below 100f
in June.
Yea while some places are colder some will be warmer....this seem obvious to me.. It takes 2 elements to create weather ..the sun and the water.
The ocean currents change depending on their heat. The sun Heats...duh.. not only the ocean but also the land. IF the Sun cools then so does all of the above...but warmer water will migrate...ther is the culprit for abnormal heating... heck its obvious ...isn't it?


The sun may be heading into a century-long period of low activity, like the Maunder Minimum of the 17th century, but global warming may prevent another Little Ice Age.


www.findingdulcinea.com...
[edit on 11-6-2009 by awakentired]

[edit on 11-6-2009 by awakentired]



posted on Jun, 11 2009 @ 10:22 AM
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Originally posted by ElectricUniverse

Is good to see that nature is showing who is boss.



Why is that?




Canada is not the only place experiencing "cold" temperatures, I am in Wyoming and right now temps are about 45 degrees and it seems it is goig to remain cold for at least one, or two weeks if not longer.

This should be a clear sign for people to realize that the claim that anthropogenic CO2 is to blame for "excessive warming" is baloney and nothing more than a scam to control people more and to make the rich richer, and the medium, and poor classes around the world poorer.



Then you obviously don't understand the issue of global warming. For one it doesn't result in warmer climates.

The warming melts glaciers, which decrease the oceans salinity, which in turn breaks down the Thermo Haline Conveyor which in turn makes temperatures in places like Canada even COLDER...


Do you even research the things you spout? Or is it just the same hillbilly trick of saying "Hyuck... Things are colder buddy... how could that be global warmin?"





Good for "Mother Nature" to show the world who is boss.

www.reuters.com
(visit the link for the full news article)


Again? Why is this a good thing?



posted on Jun, 11 2009 @ 10:30 AM
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Originally posted by ElectricUniverse

This should be a clear sign for people to realize that the claim that anthropogenic CO2 is to blame for "excessive warming" is baloney and nothing more than a scam to control people more and to make the rich richer, and the medium, and poor classes around the world poorer.

Good for "Mother Nature" to show the world who is boss.

www.reuters.com
(visit the link for the full news article)

[edit on 10-6-2009 by ElectricUniverse]


Well it's been really unseasonably hot here so by using your analogy I could say that global warming does exist.

But we should know that these problems are much more complex than it being hot or cold at a localized area.

[edit on 6/11/2009 by Uniceft17]




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