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N. Korea slams U.S. nuclear umbrella as declaration of war+

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posted on Jun, 12 2009 @ 12:29 AM
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He is just itching to push a button of destruction! I would hate for any of our world to have to suffer the abomination that is nuclear war, to think that it could happen in days or weeks is just too much to bear. I feel as though it will though, my intuition has been in overdrive lately, as well as dreams of horrific situations worldwide. I am very afraid for the Japanese people most of all, due to a particular dream I had.




posted on Jun, 12 2009 @ 12:37 AM
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I wouldn't worry about any nuclear attack, its not going to happen. There are way too many regional giants around them for them to take such action. If and i mean its a big IF it was then that would be the end of that country within days, not because of the retaliation but simply because all nations would invade leaving them no chance of survival.



posted on Jun, 12 2009 @ 11:48 AM
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UN Security Council backs new sanctions on North Korea





The United Nations Security Council unanimously passed a resolution Friday that imposes new sanctions on North Korea for its recent missile tests and an underground test of a nuclear device.

The resolution urges countries to reduce financial ties with North Korea, and extends a ban on exports of tanks, artillery and other large arms that represent a significant source of revenue for that country.

All 192 UN member nations are also authorized to inspect cargo vessels at sea or airports if they believe the contents may be used to advance Pyongyang's nuclear or ballistic programs.

North Korea has been flexing its military muscle in recent months.

On Monday, Pyongyang's main Rodong Sinmun newspaper said the country will consider any sanctions as a declaration of war, and will respond with "due corresponding self-defence measures."

On Tuesday, North Korea said it would use nuclear weapons in a "merciless offensive" if provoked.

North Korean scientists had conducted an underground nuclear test on May 24 that drew swift condemnation from the international community. That was the second test since 2006.

The Security Council action came a day after a U.S. official said North Korea could be preparing to conduct a third nuclear test.

Won Tae-jae, a South Korean Defence Ministry spokesman, told reporters Friday that a test was "probably possible."

However, South Korea's Yonhap news agency quoted an unidentified intelligence official as saying there was no imminent indication that a test site where the May blast took place was being restored.

www.cbc.ca...


So the ground rules have been laid and now its N.Korea's move on the global chess board. Take note of the last paragraph.

[edit on 12-6-2009 by tristar]



posted on Jun, 12 2009 @ 12:17 PM
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Sounds link Mr.Jong is doing what Israel did in the six-day war.

With that analogy, he's surrounded by Arabs/Western Imperialism, they impose sanctions and wham bham he launches a pre-emptive attack...and win. Check-mate.

Don't underestimate a wounded animal, they bite hard.



posted on Jun, 12 2009 @ 12:59 PM
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Originally posted by PrisonerOfSociety
Sounds link Mr.Jong is doing what Israel did in the six-day war.

With that analogy, he's surrounded by Arabs/Western Imperialism, they impose sanctions and wham bham he launches a pre-emptive attack...and win. Check-mate.

Don't underestimate a wounded animal, they bite hard.


But a wounded dog with 1 leg and no eyes can easily be shot, out of mercy of course!



posted on Jun, 12 2009 @ 01:05 PM
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Originally posted by Bearack


But a wounded dog with 1 leg and no eyes can easily be shot, out of mercy of course!


....tasered and shot three times ?? Mercy ?? Probably not.....



posted on Jun, 12 2009 @ 01:09 PM
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Originally posted by _DISAVOWED_

Originally posted by Bearack


But a wounded dog with 1 leg and no eyes can easily be shot, out of mercy of course!


....tasered and shot three times ?? Mercy ?? Probably not.....


ROFL, okay, agreed!



posted on Jun, 12 2009 @ 01:17 PM
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What if these countries aim their nuclear weapons at our known nuclear weapons storage or where we launch ours...IF they strike first, would that set off a chain reaction of our own nuclear weapons detonating in our own country?


Just a quick though.

But yea these moves over past 3,4,5 months are pretty much like a chess game....



posted on Jun, 12 2009 @ 02:07 PM
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I doubt any ICBM would make it past 6ft from the ground from NK.

Reagans Star Wars satellites would shoot them down in a heartbeat; in fact they'd probably be able to zoom in and obliterate the fuse paper before the main burners fired up!

Ofcourse, this tech was never completely developed or deployed, but you've got to wonder what's floating up there in geosynchronous orbits.

Regarding a chain reaction, that wouldn't happen.



The implosion device consisted of a sphere of uranium-235 (tamper) and a plutonium-239 core surrounded by high explosives. When the bomb was detonated, this is what happened:
* The explosives fired, creating a shock wave.
* The shock wave compressed the core.
* The fission reaction began.
* The bomb exploded.

Source



posted on Jun, 12 2009 @ 02:28 PM
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As terrible as it sounds i would not oppose a nuclearized japan and or S.Korea to re-stabilize the playing field as it were.Creating a regional balance of terror scenerio akin to the M.A.D.doctrin that kept the cold war powers from launching.



posted on Jun, 12 2009 @ 03:16 PM
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Originally posted by PrisonerOfSociety
reply to post by LucidDreamer85
 


I doubt any ICBM would make it past 6ft from the ground from NK.

Reagans Star Wars satellites would shoot them down in a heartbeat; in fact they'd probably be able to zoom in and obliterate the fuse paper before the main burners fired up!

Ofcourse, this tech was never completely developed or deployed, but you've got to wonder what's floating up there in geosynchronous orbits.

Yeah, the missile defense system that could protect us from a rogue nuclear state, the one which was dismantled by Clinton, and which Obama vowed to never develop?

Ugh.



posted on Jun, 12 2009 @ 04:45 PM
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Originally posted by Johnmike

Yeah, the missile defense system that could protect us from a rogue nuclear state, the one which was dismantled by Clinton, and which Obama vowed to never develop?

Ugh.


The Missile Defense System that has never actually been proven to work? The one in which the "tests," were rigged for success? The one that would cost billions of dollars without any assurances it would ever be effective?

That one?



posted on Jun, 12 2009 @ 04:57 PM
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No, not the "antiquated" one we keep seeing "tests" of that doesnt work so well that it scares off the rest of the world. The one thats space-based in orbit right now and fully functional and uses a multitude of lasers to shoot down objects in a matter of seconds.....that one. Though i dont think that one will be used on one rogue NK missile....its being held in reserve for something much more massive.



Originally posted by Night Watchman

Originally posted by Johnmike

Yeah, the missile defense system that could protect us from a rogue nuclear state, the one which was dismantled by Clinton, and which Obama vowed to never develop?

Ugh.


The Missile Defense System that has never actually been proven to work? The one in which the "tests," were rigged for success? The one that would cost billions of dollars without any assurances it would ever be effective?

That one?



posted on Jun, 12 2009 @ 11:41 PM
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I love idea of NK using it's Bombs in a "merciless offensive." First, if they have them, they have little success in getting them to work correctly. Second, one of the major problems in the developing the first Bombs was making them small enough to fit on a B-24, much less NK having the experience and research required to deploy one of a missle.


Maybe, they could load one on a Hyundai heavy truck and drive it to D.C., assuming they could trust the drivers not to defect.



posted on Jun, 13 2009 @ 12:33 AM
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Yep. That one. Or similar ones. You point out powerful flaws in our ability to prevent ourselves from being blown to nothing. Things we need to put research into to develop.

So...the one Clinton dismantled and Obama refuses to develop to an effective state.



posted on Jun, 13 2009 @ 02:28 AM
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Just a quick pointer, the leo satellite's which have been over exaggerated as a weapons did fail to protect the ISS in the recent near collision. In terms of what has been presented and what there real abilities are, are similar to an ant attacking an elephant. It may be big and powerful but it is not agile enough to avoid or intercept multiple inbound from multi directional trajectory's.



posted on Jun, 13 2009 @ 06:54 AM
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N. Korea Vows To 'Weaponize' Plutonium, Start Enriching Uranium





North Korea declared Saturday that it could no longer "even think about giving up its nuclear weapons" following the U.N. Security Council's imposition of sanctions for its second nuclear test.

Declaring that it would meet sanctions with "retaliation," the government of Kim Jong Il vowed to "weaponize" all the plutonium it could extract from used fuel rods at its partially disabled Yongbyon nuclear plant.

It also pledged to start enriching uranium to make more nuclear weapons. For the past seven years, North Korea has adamantly denied U.S. intelligence reports that it even had a uranium-enrichment program.

timesofindia.indiatimes.com...


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This is obviously a threat to its region so i feel that now China and Russia will be forced to act upon this. The million dollar question is at to what extent are they going to move and with what method. If this is true, then N.Korea has raised the level on every scale. All that remains to see is after the first inspection which now have been approved by the U.N., what and how will N.Korea react to inspections.

[edit on 13-6-2009 by tristar]



posted on Jun, 15 2009 @ 11:42 AM
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US Intel: North Korea conducted nuke test in May





WASHINGTON -- The U.S. government is officially confirming North Korea's underground atomic test in late May, saying the blast was somewhat larger than the regime's first test, conducted in 2006.

The blast yielded several kilotons, said a U.S. official who spoke on condition of anonymity because the announcement had not yet been made.

Until now the U.S. government has been officially mum on the May 25 test. The official said the national intelligence director was expected to issue a statement Monday confirming the event as a "probable" nuclear explosion.

Independent U.S. analysts have estimated the yield of the atomic explosion to be roughly 4 kilotons. North Korea may now be preparing for its third nuclear test, a show of defiance as the United Nations adopts new sanctions as a result of the May 25 blast.

www.miamiherald.com...


Well there you have it, its official, it was a Nuke test.

[edit on 15-6-2009 by tristar]



posted on Jun, 15 2009 @ 11:58 AM
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You do realize that Kim is the 'loser' in the 'classroom' we call global politics. Usually if you see those shootings on schools its usually the weird/quiet kid that 'breaks' and starts shooting. So I'd be little more careful on how to handle this guy. I believe his staff won't hold him back when he wants to push the button in a moment of anger.

[edit on 15-6-2009 by mortje]



posted on Jun, 15 2009 @ 12:06 PM
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Yes, so it seems he is one step ahead and knows what he is doing. So far he has been truthful in saying that they did a nuke test when the rest of the world was talking about high explosives.



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