How we are Conditioned to act without Reason *Video* Must See*

A great video that is pretty much self explanatory! A mere minute and fifty-five seconds of the breakdown of mass conditioning without using facts or reasoning. I think we can all apply what we see here to how people act and respond to certain circumstances. A Must See in my book!

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I have to wonder if any scientific evidence has been done of this, but let's say this is true 100%

This would explain religion out the door and into a cab!

Also explain Dem, Rep into the same cab!

The damage comes from each other, same as Michio kaku talks about, he who speaks of UFOs finds themselves in full force of the giggle factor!

It's what has always been done and will always continue to happen.

I really liked this video, neat find!!!

I agree, after watching this video a little light went on and all the sudden the world made a little more sense to me, just wanted to share with the rest of you......

Thank you very very much for sharing. How simple it is. S&F

I've searched and searched, but I can't find any sources that indicate this "experiment" is anything other than a fable.

Perhaps some monkey would wait until the others are asleep then grab the banana. Or the banana would rot and none of them would want it. Monkeys aren't stupid; the do self-assert and try creative things.

This video is junk pseudo-science, that attempts to dress up a perhaps-valid point as a basic law of behavioral psychology. In fact, the anecdote is the kind of disinformation it tries to exemplify - accepting authority opinion without validation.

Except for the fact that the video does not claim it is the truth, nor enforces it upon you - simply presents it as an anecdote as you have clearly indicated yet chosen to ignore as you chastise it for claims of scientific rigour - which the video never claims yet you attempt to discredit the video for making such claims which only you claim - ironic how your own post has clearly indicated demonstrated the validity of the videos arguments through your won attempts to discredit it - wow - cool.

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Very thought provoking...I can see this happening everyday..

Thanks for the video..

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Huh? I was just pointing out that I could find no evidence that monkeys actually do what this video describes. And that the fable seems a little too convenient, like it's contrived to show a point.

Humans probably act that way, however.

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What we have here is a perfect example of the "5 monkey" experiment in action. "The Way" is mostly maligned by "5 Monkey Types" who do not know the true teachings of Yahushua.

"Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do. (Luke 23:34)"................. they are conditioned "Monkeys".

Yeah, its a real study:

Cultural acquisition of a specific learned response among rhesus monkeys.
Stephenson, G. R. (1967)

Social Transmission of Acquired Behavior: A Discussion of Tradition and Social Learning in Vertebrates.
Galef, B. G., Jr.


-Edrick

"How we are CONDITIONED to act without Reason *Video* Must See*"

Ironic title.

The reason I am replying is that the video doesn't work for me. Is this reasonable?

Sorry but this is a study into placing food for monkey in a similar position regularly - then switching the food to something un-palatable. The study showed short but not long term memories in monkeys.

The video only claims to be anecdotal - you ascribe a lack of scientific rigour where none is claimed. You can not draw the video into question for a lack of science when it claims none - hence the irony in your assumptions, the double irony in that your were attempting to draw ironic conclusions in due to itslack of scientific rigour - clear ?

Funny, I was just trying to explain this recently in a thread about the evolution of beliefs. At the start of the video, the monkeys knew and had a reason why they didn't go up the stairs. They were "gnostic" and had real understanding and knowledge. Those who followed were just made to accept what was given, they had no understanding.

Doesn't matter if it was an experiment or not IMO, you can see the same thing in society all the time.

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No. I wasn't looking for 'rigor', just accuracy - and perhaps evidence thereof. I'm not using a narrow definition of 'science', simply the method of describing a situation and results that can be performed in a verifiable manner. The video does make such 'scientific' claims: it says "place five monkeys in a cage... they will...".

My opinion is that the learned group behavior theorized by the video is exemplified by many aspects of society, both human and animal. But making up (or extrapolating) a situation to exemplify it, and presenting it as what will happen, is dicey.

In any event this video makes sense to me - even if it is not literally proof. My proof is in watching humans react on a day-to-day basis and I must say, this video is spot on!

I know that I cannot proof it, but this is my reality and the way I experience life.......

Some people may see themselves represented in this demonstration. I don't. Never did. Which could be why I choose to be a loner. Because my early childhood involved relocation almost every year, I was always on the outside looking in. I never wanted to belong to any clique. I'm not one to follow along without asking questions first. I do realize that way too many people are comfortble in their position as followers, its too easy and comfortable to make waves.

For those who can't view the video:

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I must agree with you on this and I try not to follow the herd. I am not 100% sure if I am successful or not.......

Absolutely not. The video at NO TIME made any claim to be scientific what so ever - you have ascribed this. Pure and simple.

You have simply surmised that the video was attempting to be scientific - however it was not and does not claim to be and absolutely IS NOT MEANT TO BE.

The irony comes exactly from this position you have erroneously adopted, that you have simply assumed this position and are completely mistaken and wrong -

I find it even more amusing, and ironic, that you are arguing from an untenable position as the evidence is sitting there at the top of the page - yet like the monkeys you persist with enforcing this position - when clearly it does not exist - monkey see monkey do - thats you !

Funny stuff -