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reply posted on 10-6-2009 @ 11:10 AM by Signals

Best paper airplane pic I've seen all week!

reply posted on 10-6-2009 @ 11:13 AM by greeneyedleo

Originally posted by WickettheRabbit
reply to post by lucentenigma

That's awesome. It shows how easily this can be made.
Thanks

Well that and the fact that the photos are not the original. That is the first sign anyone should look to and when EXIF data shows its unaltered, unedited, in raw format - then you can begin to pick the photo apart.

Again, you can not analyse a photo that is not the original raw image.

For example:

This photo is an original unaltered raw photo - and below it is the EXIF data for it: ORIGINAL RAW FORMAT

EXIF — this group of metadata is encoded in 5,204 bytes (5.1k)

Color Space sRGB
Components Configuration YCbCr
Compressed Bits Per Pixel 4
Compression JPEG (old-style)
Contrast Normal
Create Date 2008:09:05 18:39:13
9 months, 4 days, 14 hours, 33 minutes, 41 seconds ago
Custom Rendered Normal
Date/Time Original 2008:09:05 18:39:13
9 months, 4 days, 14 hours, 33 minutes, 41 seconds ago
Exif Image Size 1,944 × 2,592
Exif Version 0220
Exposure Compensation 0
Exposure Mode Auto
Exposure Program Landscape
Exposure Time 1/640
F Number 5.6
File Source Digital Camera
Flash Off
Flashpix Version 0100
Focal Length 6.0 mm
ISO 64
Image Description
Interoperability Index R98 - DCF basic file (sRGB)
Interoperability Version 0100
Light Source Unknown
Make SONY
Max Aperture Value 2.8
Metering Mode Center-weighted average
Camera Model Name DSC-H1
Modify Date 2008:09:06 21:27:30
9 months, 3 days, 11 hours, 45 minutes, 24 seconds ago
Offset Schema 44
Orientation Horizontal (normal)
Print Image Matching (28 bytes binary data)
Resolution 72 pixels/inch
Saturation Normal
Scene Capture Type Landscape
Scene Type Directly photographed
Sharpness Normal
Software Microsoft Windows Photo Gallery 6.0.6000.16386
Thumbnail Length 2,729
White Balance Auto
X Resolution 0.01041666667
Y Cb Cr Positioning Co-sited
Y Resolution 0.01041666667

EDITED IN PHOTOSHOP FOR SIZE - no other edit done

EXIF — this group of metadata is encoded in 3,673 bytes (3.6k)

Color Space sRGB
Components Configuration YCbCr
Compressed Bits Per Pixel 4
Compression JPEG (old-style)
Contrast Normal
Create Date 2008:09:05 18:39:13
9 months, 4 days, 14 hours, 42 minutes, 35 seconds ago
Custom Rendered Normal
Date/Time Original 2008:09:05 18:39:13
9 months, 4 days, 14 hours, 42 minutes, 35 seconds ago
Exif Image Size 600 × 800
Exif Version 0220
Exposure Compensation 0
Exposure Mode Auto
Exposure Program Landscape
Exposure Time 1/640
F Number 5.6
File Source Digital Camera
Flash Off
Flashpix Version 0100
Focal Length 6.0 mm
ISO 64
Image Description
Interoperability Index R98 - DCF basic file (sRGB)
Interoperability Version 0100
Light Source Unknown
Make SONY
Max Aperture Value 2.8
Metering Mode Center-weighted average
Camera Model Name DSC-H1
Modify Date 2009:06:10 10:09:29
47 minutes, 41 seconds ago
Offset Schema 44
Orientation Horizontal (normal)
Print Image Matching (28 bytes binary data)
Resolution 72 pixels/inch
Saturation Normal
Scene Capture Type Landscape
Scene Type Directly photographed
Sharpness Normal
Software Adobe Photoshop Elements 5.0 (20060914.r.77) Windows
Thumbnail Length 2,771
White Balance Auto
Y Cb Cr Positioning Co-sited

Photoshop

Color Halftoning Info (72 bytes binary data)
Color Transfer Funcs (112 bytes binary data)
Copyright Flag False
Displayed Units X inches
Displayed Units Y inches
Global Altitude 30
Global Angle 30
Grid Guides Info (16 bytes binary data)
ID's Base Value (4 bytes binary data)
IPTC Digest fb09a6bd074c2a369d8fe2cc57a9ac85
Photoshop Format Optimised
Photoshop Quality 10
Photoshop Thumbnail (2,771 bytes binary data)
Pixel Aspect Ratio (12 bytes binary data)
Print Flags (9 bytes binary data)
Print Flags Info (10 bytes binary data)
Print Scale (14 bytes binary data)
Progressive Scans 3 Scans
Slices (837 bytes binary data)
URL List (4 bytes binary data)
Version Info Adobe Photoshop Elements
Adobe Photoshop Elements 5.0
X Resolution 72
Y Resolution 72

Now you can see the difference in an original raw format photo and a tampered with photo.

You can also take out/edit exif data.

[edit on 6/10/2009 by greeneyedleo]

reply posted on 10-6-2009 @ 11:29 AM by lucentenigma

reply to post by the secret web

Nice PS job.
I like how you added the depth to make it more 3D.

It shows what COULD be done.

Imagine what we could have done if we would have used a few hours?

This could even be done pretty easily with video.

reply posted on 10-6-2009 @ 11:29 AM by jblue1978

I'm a graphic designer by profession and I could fake this in photoshop very easily....

reply posted on 10-6-2009 @ 11:36 AM by lucentenigma

reply to post by greeneyedleo

Now you can see the difference in an original raw format photo and a tampered with photo. You can also take out/edit exif data.

Yup, it's easy to hack exif also.

Here is a link to nice piece of software.

ExifTool

reply posted on 10-6-2009 @ 12:06 PM by NightVision

Originally posted by defcon2

I am no Photoshop expert but when I zoomed right in on the images I noticed alot of pixelation and blurring around the craft on all three pics and on one pic there is a broken line.I think these are fake.

Having worked with Photoshop professionally for around 7 hours a day, 5 days a week, for the last 10 yrs, I can tell you that in my professional opinion, the object is actually there. Whenever you get an image when there is lots of contrast, (i.e. dark and light), you're going to get some degree of pixelation where the two meet, i.e. the where the light edge (the clouds), meets the dark edge (the "ship"). Its just the way a photo looks when you digitize it....even when an object is actually there.

Task#1) I would seek the original photographer out and ask for negatives.

It looks to me like the object is moving in a slow trajectory from left to right. This does not rule out a model. However it is impossible to judge the distance of the craft, even w. the lamp post.

Cloudy days do not help either, as Photoshopping the sun reflecting on/off an object is much more difficult than imposing ambient light (cloudy light) which comes from all directions. And, yes, it does seem a bit odd that the object is only shot 3 times.

Jury is still out on this one for me....

reply posted on 10-6-2009 @ 12:07 PM by serinx

Is it the same one as from back in March?

www.ufocasebook.com...

reply posted on 10-6-2009 @ 12:10 PM by NightVision

Originally posted by lucentenigma
I wanted to see how easy this would be to duplicate in photoshop.

Here is what I came up with, it took me no longer then 10 minutes.

[edit on 10-6-2009 by lucentenigma]

Again, having worked w. photshop for the last 10 yrs, I can tell the difference between the two objects, as the you one cut and pasted has much more defined edges. It does not take an expert to see this.

IMO the object is really there. What it is or isn't, I don't know.

reply posted on 10-6-2009 @ 12:12 PM by Spirit Warrior

Good photos. If they are real.

If these craft are not ET and they are ours, then the technology is ET. Either way it is ET in some form if these are real photos and reports.

reply posted on 10-6-2009 @ 12:18 PM by lightchild

I don't think it is an Alien FT as

1. It looks like it has a smooth bottom
2. It's flying during daylight hours
3. It has no lights

reply posted on 10-6-2009 @ 12:21 PM by synchro

If it's not a manipulated image, then perhaps it's another Mugi Evo RC model painted black.

Take a look:

mugi.co.uk...

mugi.co.uk...

reply posted on 10-6-2009 @ 12:22 PM by the secret web

Originally posted by lucentenigma
reply to post by the secret web

Nice PS job.
I like how you added the depth to make it more 3D.

It shows what COULD be done.

Imagine what we could have done if we would have used a few hours?

This could even be done pretty easily with video.

Stuff like this is very eay to do for anyone with rudementary photoshop knowledge. I've been teaching 3d and CGI for years to pro's working in films , games and TV al over the world, so I do speak from the angle of experience you may say. (Hopefully that doesnt sound big headed.)

If we cannot learn to weed out obvious fakes such as these then there's no chance for the more complex ones.

Never believe your eyes...they often lie.

Wayne...

reply posted on 10-6-2009 @ 12:22 PM by 4.epicfail

Airhog RC Dominator.
A toy.

reply posted on 10-6-2009 @ 12:27 PM by toochaos4u

Haha what may/may not be a model plane rules over what is an actual report in SC.

UFO spotted near flight that landed at GSP

Kristy Nicholas said the pilot of the Embraer 145 told flight controllers that the “strange object” he saw never showed up on his radar Friday night. The pilot reported a “missile or rocket” flying near his airplane on Friday. Nicholas said the plane, with 23 passengers and three crewmembers, had just passed 11,000 feet, going to 16,000 feet.

UFO Spotted in SC by pilot

reply posted on 10-6-2009 @ 12:32 PM by rightuos

Not sure if anyone else noticed, but he has the original photos on the site for download. Accompanied with his exif data. I also double checked the exif data and will post a screen shot of mine.

reply posted on 10-6-2009 @ 12:56 PM by Mike Shackled

Looks like a man made craft to me, no UFO, that is for sure. It could easily be a spin off design of a stealth bomber or something like that. In fact I could swear that some of the prototypes back in the day had that kind of shape.

reply posted on 10-6-2009 @ 01:06 PM by fearless leader

It's a TR-3A Black Manta. You can barely see the tiny vertical stabilizers on the trailing edge of the craft. Also, the lack of lights on the underside seems to point to a U.S. Government craft, rather than alien. It is conventionally powered, so it does make a little engine noise, but that could have been drowned out by the storm it was flying in. Fantastic pics though, keep it up.

reply posted on 10-6-2009 @ 01:08 PM by KIRKSTERUK

Since when did kites become UFO's?

reply posted on 10-6-2009 @ 01:19 PM by defcon2

reply to post by lucentenigma

No offense but that only proves that the image can be faked.That won't disprove the original.

reply posted on 10-6-2009 @ 01:24 PM by tjeffersonsghost

Originally posted by toochaos4u
Haha what may/may not be a model plane rules over what is an actual report in SC.

UFO spotted near flight that landed at GSP

Kristy Nicholas said the pilot of the Embraer 145 told flight controllers that the “strange object” he saw never showed up on his radar Friday night. The pilot reported a “missile or rocket” flying near his airplane on Friday. Nicholas said the plane, with 23 passengers and three crewmembers, had just passed 11,000 feet, going to 16,000 feet.

UFO Spotted in SC by pilot

Star for you. So we now have a pilot claiming to see something and now a photograph from another party. The plot thickens....