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reply posted on 9-6-2009 @ 07:00 PM by ChrisCrikey
reply to post by ratcals


I couldn't agree with you more. It is stealing. I have been in the music and entertainment business for decades. About five years ago I was engineering a CD, it was a very low scale operation and before we even got it packaged there were already pirated copies of some of our tracks I heard one on the local radio no less. I could have tried to find out what happened...I could have raised hell at the radio station but it had to have started as an "inside job" from there...we might as well have given up and did eventually due to other contract disputes.


reply posted on 9-6-2009 @ 07:34 PM by miss_silver
Originally posted by Kaifan
Today someone came to my door, just a dude from the isp delivering a letter, he was kind of freaked out so i thought it was something bad, he said "please read this letter and let me know what do you think about it", and he was about to go but i opened the letter and read it there so he waited, then i asked about that and he said he really didn't knew but that i should do as the letter says , the letter is from the isp, and obviously he works there, at the end he says please sign this and here's my email and phone number, and it turns out he is something like one of the owners of the isp, i look out on the street and see a cool fancy new car outside so i guess this guy is loaded, so, what is he doing delivering letters in person instead of sending some worker bee?

And the letter said something about Sony Pictures Entertainment [SPE] contacting them because i supposedly was distributing non authorized content of "Terminator Salvation" by using a peer to peer service.





Yes


Change ISP in a heartbeat and never look back. Every horror story i have read about companies such as sony going after ISP or in worst cases, an individual, they do so if it is a small ISP or weak individual such as an elderly or teens/kids downloading mp3's and movies, individual who are clueless on how to defend themselves in front of giants.

As for law enforcement seizing someone's computer, it is mostly unheard of. Granted that if you are in college and you are using their bandwidth to share copyrighted material, they will bear the wrath of the "giants", just googled the stuff and several students had their computer seized by campus officials.

Unless you are running a torrent site with servers to facilitate people to share copyrighted material, such as out of the theater movies, then you become a number 1 priority and have a big bull eyes painted all over you.

In your case, your ISP just got scared and played the A-hole game on you. To add insult to injury, they made you sign a letter so they can wipe their hands clean of you. Also, I would ask that ISP of yours if they run on the "Neighborhood IP" meaning that it is not unheard of that people living in the same localized areas are sharing a same subnet IP address. I have seen cases in the gaming community about how some people got banned from gaming servers for they have been accused of creating 2 or more accounts that are running on the same IP when it is not the case and those people are living some 100 meters from each others.

In any case, it sucks for you that this happened and do yourself a favor by giving them the finger of honor and take your business elsewhere where you will not be given any grievance. They deserve that much and you deserve better.


reply posted on 9-6-2009 @ 07:50 PM by Kaifan
reply to post by miss_silver



Thanks for your comment, unfortunately i still have one more month with them since i did pay in advance, and guess what, the contract specifies that if i cancel before a year of service has gone, i still have to pay whatever days/weeks/months are left before a year of service great! so anyway, i will still move to another isp, the thing is, there are only two on this town , i am traveling through Mexico right now, so i guess is time to move on, i wanted to leave to my next stop anyway so i will probably just spend another 15 days here and move on. i guess i will have to cancel the contract and pay for a service i will never receive, instead of leaving the service running as i had planned, because my brother stays here and he wanted it for his kids, but with this kind of things, i don't think so..

Way to go crappy business who steal from their clients and have no remorse about it


[edit on 9-6-2009 by Kaifan]


reply posted on 9-6-2009 @ 08:55 PM by Now_Then
reply to post by Greenblaz



It looks like the lesson to be lernt from this thread is when you are looking to fix a friends computer keep it isolated from your network untill you are happy to connect it.

Decide what apps you require and use a known machine to download them - use a flash drive or a disk maybe to transfer the apps... Or teach your friends good back up procedure and just go for full recoveries.



reply posted on 9-6-2009 @ 08:59 PM by Greenblaz
reply to post by Now_Then




Yea tell me about it. The funny thing is I told them what happened and they refuse to turn on port 25. The activity is obviously off my line. Looks like I am going to FiOS.

JT


reply posted on 10-6-2009 @ 06:32 AM by Solomons
reply to post by watchZEITGEISTnow



Peer guardian makes you think you are safe,your really not when it comes to this type of thing.They intentionally lure people in to a certain torrent file and take note of the IP's.Peer guardian does not protect against that.


reply posted on 10-6-2009 @ 07:41 AM by Sashromi
reply to post by ratcals



Not Quite Right. Music Performers and Literary authors may indeed receive an up front fee for their work. However, there is an established formula that governs the amount of royalties that these people receive based on the actual sales figures. In the case of relatively unknown artists, these royalties may be much more than any up front fee. For instance, an unknown musician may get a $10,000 fee for an album, and if that album is only mildly successful - say 20,000 sales - that may be it. On the other hand if it takes off - a million sales - the vast majority of the money would come from the royalties. Obviously the next time the musician makes an album he/she will be able to demand a higher up front fee, and the royalties estras may kick in at a higher sales figure. It works the same way with authors.

See this Wikipedia article for a more complete description of royalties than most of us would ever care to know Royalties Explained


reply posted on 10-6-2009 @ 08:58 AM by KyoZero
To the poster above me...

Torrent Legality


Once again, using BitTorrent in and of itself is not in the least bit illegal. Of course, neither is using a VCR to tape a television show. However, a huge number of people use BitTorrent to share materials that are copyrighted. The array is vast, from MP3s to first-run movies, and even entire seasons of TV shows zipped up into a single large file. And once again (say it with us), downloading copyrighted material without the permission of the copyright holder is illegal. You could get sued. For a lot. The odds may be against it... but it could happen.


aaaaaaaaaand

here

MPAA Piracy Laws

illegal...point blank and period

-Kyo
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