Why bring up something that happened over 40 years ago. Why Israel and not the USA atrocities in Vietnam, the concentration camps in South Africa etc., etc.,

Up to 300,000 people have been killed in Darfur ,Somalia 400,000 displaced and many thousands killed in ongoing wars. Yet these and other wars going on around the world never get a mention.

It is obvious that these other countries where the killing is ceaseless does not fit some peoples political agenda.

I would not trust the link one iota

Originally posted by dizzylizzy
Why bring up something that happened over 40 years ago. Why Israel and not the USA atrocities in Vietnam, the concentration camps in South Africa etc., etc.,

Up to 300,000 people have been killed in Darfur ,Somalia 400,000 displaced and many thousands killed in ongoing wars. Yet these and other wars going on around the world never get a mention.

It is obvious that these other countries where the killing is ceaseless does not fit some peoples political agenda.

I would not trust the link one iota

Holohoax was almost twice as long ago?

Why embarrass yourself as a total hypocrite?

They name street signs after people like you, One Way----->!

You are clearly Anti-Isreali/Jewish.

Your favorite sources are Iran's (their biggest emeny) state run propaganda machine.

Lets just say, for the sake of discussion, you are correct.

Time to grow up and get over it, seriously.

Let me give you some examples of getting over it:

1)Japan bombed Perl Harbor sinking many ships and killing many thousands of sailors.
Japan was responsible for cruel death marches from it's prisioners of war.
Japan has the rape of nanking(sp?)
Japan took wemon from other countries and made them sex slaves.
For that matter, the US dropped two nukes on Japan

Both Japan and the US have gotton over it.

Germany invaded/ concored and took over France in WW2, they are now both members of NATO

and so on, the list goes on and on.

The thing is, the West moves on from these things, your refusal to let it go shows a M.E. mentality of never forgive, never peace, just kill,kill, kill. (like the Iranian propaganda you preach from Presstv.ir.

By your mentaility, Israel shoul;d just completly distroy egypt, Jordan,Saudi Arabia,Iran....who have all attacked Israel a number of times.

(granted, they got their collective arses kicked, but still)

We have forgiven Japan and they are an allie.

[edit on 6/9/2009 by mrmonsoon]

Anyone who believes that this attack did not happen is living in a dream world. Yes, It did happen. Just as the veterans said it did. It was covered up by our government as the unfortunate soles of that day recall. They were told not to say anything as in "Keep you mouths shut!" Why? All because the U.S. Government didn't want Isreal to get embarassed about having mistaken a U.S. ship for an enemy ship.

Originally posted by KAKUSA
"Israel is NO friend to America"

I agree.

But Iran is not a friend to Israel or America either.
And Iran would love nothing more than to whip up anti-Jewish
feelings among Americans in order to get America to withdraw
support to Israel so it (Iran) could 'wipe Israel off the map' as
it has threatened to do.

Find some backup for this story and I'll buy into it more.
At this point ... to me it's a maybe yes, maybe no

S&F. Thanks for posting this. U.S. citizens need to become aware of Israel's conduct and attitude toward the U.S. It's the tail which has been wagging the dog for more than half a century. I am sorry to see your thread hijacked by the apologists for whom Israel can do no wrong. Based on the limited number of posts it looks like Mr. Monsoon succeeded in diverting your thread topic from one informing us of an evil historical event to an ad hominem attack upon those who dare to criticize the state of Israel whether the criticism is deserved or not.

[edit on 6/9/2009 by dubiousone]

Originally posted by mrmonsoon
You are clearly Anti-Isreali/Jewish.

Your favorite sources are Iran's (their biggest emeny) state run propaganda machine.

Lets just say, for the sake of discussion, you are correct.

Time to grow up and get over it, seriously.

Let me give you some examples of getting over it:

1)Japan bombed Perl Harbor sinking many ships and killing many thousands of sailors.
Japan was responsible for cruel death marches from it's prisioners of war.
Japan has the rape of nanking(sp?)
Japan took wemon from other countries and made them sex slaves.
For that matter, the US dropped two nukes on Japan

Both Japan and the US have gotton over it.

Germany invaded/ concored and took over France in WW2, they are now both members of NATO

and so on, the list goes on and on.

The thing is, the West moves on from these things, your refusal to let it go shows a M.E. mentality of never forgive, never peace, just kill,kill, kill. (like the Iranian propaganda you preach from Presstv.ir.

By your mentaility, Israel shoul;d just completly distroy egypt, Jordan,Saudi Arabia,Iran....who have all attacked Israel a number of times.

(granted, they got their collective arses kicked, but still)

We have forgiven Japan and they are an allie.

[edit on 6/9/2009 by mrmonsoon]

We have not gotten over those 2 examples you gave. I have family members who fought in WW2 and are still extremely racist towards German and Japanese people.

And maybe this story is being stressed because it was covered up so long ago. If i had been on that ship and saw my friends fired on and killed I wouldn't feel too happy if the story was covered up.

You rationalization towards bobby is funny, he never mentions anything about killing. Futhermore, labeling somebody Anti-Jewish because they bring up a well documented cover up story just makes you look like a jerk.

Originally posted by mrmonsoon
You are clearly Anti-Isreali/Jewish.

Your favorite sources are Iran's (their biggest emeny) state run propaganda machine.

Lets just say, for the sake of discussion, you are correct.

Time to grow up and get over it, seriously.

Let me give you some examples of getting over it:

1)Japan bombed Perl Harbor sinking many ships and killing many thousands of sailors.
Japan was responsible for cruel death marches from it's prisioners of war.
Japan has the rape of nanking(sp?)
Japan took wemon from other countries and made them sex slaves.
For that matter, the US dropped two nukes on Japan

Both Japan and the US have gotton over it.

Germany invaded/ concored and took over France in WW2, they are now both members of NATO

and so on, the list goes on and on.

The thing is, the West moves on from these things, your refusal to let it go shows a M.E. mentality of never forgive, never peace, just kill,kill, kill. (like the Iranian propaganda you preach from Presstv.ir.

By your mentaility, Israel shoul;d just completly distroy egypt, Jordan,Saudi Arabia,Iran....who have all attacked Israel a number of times.

(granted, they got their collective arses kicked, but still)

We have forgiven Japan and they are an allie.

[edit on 6/9/2009 by mrmonsoon]

You are delusional. Japan was our enemy. Do you understand that? They were also forced into attacking the US, by the US. The American government illegally cut off Japan's lifeline and forced their hand. Their only means for desperately needed oil was to cripple the Pacific fleet leaving them unable to stop Japan's quest for oil down there. The US created and let this happen. They did this purposely to gain public favor as a means to enter the war. America refused to have any part of it until the tragedy at Pearl Harbor. Afterward over a million men volunteered to fight in the war.

What the US did was wrong to both Japan and it's own citizens. I'm an American, but I cannot deny or defend these actions taken by my country. Do you see the difference between denial and admission of wrong doing? You think Jews can do no wrong because you're a Jew. I think wrong is wrong no matter what and I'm strong enough to admit it.

You can never compare the cowardly Israeli army to the US or Japan. Unlike them, Israel attacked a defenseless American allied ship? They killed and wounded those they called their allies in hopes the US would fight their war with Egypt for them. Another cowardly act by a delusional, despicable country. That's what you are defending and nothing you say can change the past.

Why not get a better understanding of reality? What you have been told is obviously not the truth. Even the part that makes you think you are better than everyone else. This is why Jews have so much hate against them. Open your eyes to your culture. Though you may not like what you see?