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Topic started on 9-6-2009 @ 06:30 AM by JanusFIN
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US Ship Survivors Tell Press TV of Israeli Attack
www.presstv.ir
 A deadly Israeli attack on a US ship -- an incident largely kept in the dark by Washington -- receives new attention with survivors reliving
the painful memory.
USS Liberty survivors gathered in Washington on Monday to commemorate the 42nd anniversary of the incident and expound on how they were sprayed with
bullets by America's "closest ally and beneficiary".
On June 8, 1967, the unarmed spy ship USS Liberty was on duty in international waters off the Sinai Peninsula when it was bombarded... (visit
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reply posted on 9-6-2009 @ 06:30 AM by JanusFIN
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STORY INCLUDES VIDEO!
Sand in the shoes of history - Truth needs to raise up - questions should be answered... Why Liberty was attacked?
In the name of lost soldiers and their families - they need the truth, just like 9-11 : Only truth can set us free.
"US president Lyndon Johnson accepted the Israeli claim and cancelled all investigations into the incident." --- Why?
www.presstv.ir
(visit the link for the full news article)
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reply posted on 9-6-2009 @ 06:36 AM by Tentickles
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Originally posted by JanusFIN
Sand in the shoes of history
Sand: Fun play thing, or tiny glass knives!?
More catering to Israel from our government. I am applaud.
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reply posted on 9-6-2009 @ 07:16 AM by SelfDestruct
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WOW, that really is kept in the dark.
Very interesting post. It's about to provide me with a few hours of web browsing .
Well done. Very interesting and thought provoking.
S&F
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reply posted on 9-6-2009 @ 07:49 AM by Harlequin
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In the immediate aftermath of the attack, the then deputy director of the NSA, Louis W. Tordella, in response to the IDF Preliminary Inquiry into the
attack, called it "a nice whitewash
www.gwu.edu...
further on board the USS America , they launched TWICE F-4B`s and A-4`s to defend the liberty and TWICE they were ordered back , first by teh secetary
of defence m then by the president.
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reply posted on 9-6-2009 @ 08:43 AM by mrmonsoon
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We can believe nothing from Iran's "terrorist times".
We know it is state run and has been proven time and again to print nothing but lies.
Please people, use a "REAL" source and don't be a mindless mouth piece for Iran's mulla's.
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reply posted on 9-6-2009 @ 08:50 AM by Solomons
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The source would be the soldiers on the ship that were attacked,which has been documented many times from their own words before and has nothing to do
with the *terrorist times*.Of course,you dont care.You just like saying the word terrorist as many times as possible in a post and care nothing for
the truth.Just a vehement denial of reality.
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reply posted on 9-6-2009 @ 08:59 AM by mrmonsoon
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reply posted on 9-6-2009 @ 09:07 AM by Solomons
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Did you read my post? this was documented from YEARS ago from american soldiers on the ship in their own words...the ones who were attacked incase you
didn't know.So have your doubts about the *terrorist times* but in that case you also dont believe the american soldiers either.
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reply posted on 9-6-2009 @ 09:11 AM by mrmonsoon
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reply posted on 9-6-2009 @ 09:12 AM by KAKUSA
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"Israel is NO friend to America"
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reply posted on 9-6-2009 @ 09:16 AM by Solomons
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I give up.You are so blinded by your hate you cant even understand what im trying to say. 
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reply posted on 9-6-2009 @ 09:21 AM by mrmonsoon
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You are so blinded by your hate of Isreal, you can't or won't see what's typed.
What I have said 3X is your source is "NOT" valid.
If you want to make a point, choose a "VALID" news source, not Iran's propaganda mouthpiece, PressTV.IR. 
Denying ignorance includes denying propaganda mouth pieces like Presstv.ir.
Also, again, what American would give an interview to Iran's propaganda mouth piece???
Think people, think!
Some people will believe anything as long as it's Anti-American/Israel.
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reply posted on 9-6-2009 @ 09:25 AM by Solomons
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Its not about the source,it is about what is contained within the source.And what is written is what the soldiers on the ship have been saying for
decades so they are not lying and everything on the page is correct.. if you believe the american soldiers of course.
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reply posted on 9-6-2009 @ 09:31 AM by mrmonsoon
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Perhaps your ability to read English is not very good, I will try to help by using simpler language for you.
PressTV.ir does not tell the truth!
Presstv.ir has been caught many times not telling the truth, and I mean on ATS!
Americans would not give interviews to Iran's propaganda machine.
Don't know why that is so hard for some people to understand.
In the same way we ignore everything from "theonion" we also ignore everything from Presstv.ir because it is nothing but lies from Iran's religious
leaders.
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reply posted on 9-6-2009 @ 09:37 AM by Solomons
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I just read the page and it is the same thing the american soldiers on the ship have been saying in interviews to other sources for decades...i don't
think its me that can't read english.
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reply posted on 9-6-2009 @ 09:39 AM by Zerbst
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Here's one from Wiki.
Many intelligence and military officials dispute Israel's explanation[41]: " I was never satisfied with the Israeli explanation. . . . Through
diplomatic channels we refused to accept their explanations. I didn't believe them then, and I don't believe them to this day. The attack was
outrageous. - Former US Secretary of State Dean Rusk[42] "
In 2002 Captain Ward Boston, JAGC, U.S. Navy, ended his own silence on the work of the court of inquiry, saying its findings were intended to cover up
what was a deliberate attack by Israel on a ship it knew to be American. In 2004, in response to the publication of Jay Cristol's book The Liberty
Incident which Boston claimed was an "insidious attempt to whitewash the facts" he prepared and signed an affidavit[43] in which he claimed that
Admiral Kidd had told him that the government ordered Kidd to falsely report that the attack was a mistake, and that he and Kidd both believed the
attack was deliberate. Retired naval Lieutenant Commander James Ennes Jr has also expressed a similar view, saying that Admiral Kidd stated his belief
that the attack was deliberate in 'many talks' the two had, also claiming Kidd urged for Ennes and his group to push for a congressional
investigation.[44] On the issue Boston wrote, in part: "
The evidence was clear. Both Admiral Kidd and I believed with certainty that this attack, which killed 34 American sailors and injured 172 others, was
a deliberate effort to sink an American ship and murder its entire crew. Each evening, after hearing testimony all day, we often spoke our private
thoughts concerning what we had seen and heard. I recall Admiral Kidd repeatedly referring to the Israeli forces responsible for the attack as
'murderous bastards.' It was our shared belief, based on the documentary evidence and testimony we received first hand, that the Israeli attack was
planned and deliberate, and could not possibly have been an accident.
en.wikipedia.org...
This from What Really Happened.
It was "one of the classic all-American cover-ups," said retired Admiral Thomas Moorer, a former Joint Chiefs of Staff chairman who spent a year
investigating the attack as part of an independent panel he formed with other former military officials. The panel also included a former US
ambassador to Saudi Arabia, James Akins.
Here are confessions from Israeli's that carried out the attack.
Fifteen years after the attack, an Israeli pilot approached Liberty survivors and then held extensive interviews with former Congressman Paul N.
(Pete) McCloskey about his role. According to this senior Israeli lead pilot, he recognized the Liberty as American immediately, so informed his
headquarters, and was told to ignore the American flag and continue his attack. He refused to do so and returned to base, where he was arrested.
Later, a dual-citizen Israeli major told survivors that he was in an Israeli war room where he heard that pilot's radio report. The attacking pilots
and everyone in the Israeli war room knew that they were attacking an American ship, the major said. He recanted the statement only after he received
threatening phone calls from Israel.
whatreallyhappened.com...
This from the Seattle Times, including a comment from former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff!
For the men onboard, there was a special horror as they came under fire. They had few weapons to defend themselves and no safe places to retreat
to during the air and sea bombardment. Men were dismembered by cannon ball and the torpedo blast and were seared by napalm. For 17 hours the mess hall
became a hospital for the wounded.
Yet once they were rescued, survivors quickly began to feel like an embarrassment as the Johnson administration worked to shore up relations with
Israel.
"We went through this near-death experience ... " Ennes said. "And then the next thing you know, you are told not to talk about it without
permission, or you go to jail."
In the decades that followed, the USS Liberty became a lightening rod for controversy. Some seized upon the attack to try to incite hatred for
Israel. The Anti-Defamation League launched a vigorous defense. A League Web site states that allegations of a deliberate attack have "become a
propaganda tool to undermine the legitimacy of Israel."
Ennes became a League target, since the final chapter of his book theorized that Israel launched the attack to quash the USS Liberty's ability to
pick up intelligence on the war.
"I spoke at the University of Minnesota a few years ago, and they had pickets on the street carrying signs that said 'anti-Semite speaks here,' "
Ennes said.
But Ennes also had powerful defenders, including a retired Navy admiral who served as chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff from 1970 to 1974. "In my
opinion, the United States government and the Israeli government must share responsibility for this cover-up," Adm. Thomas Moorer wrote in a forward
that was published in later editions of Ennes' book.
seattletimes.nwsource.com...
Is that enough for you? If not, there is plenty more!
Embarrassing, I swear.
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reply posted on 9-6-2009 @ 09:41 AM by mrmonsoon
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You have provided "NO" valid links/news sources.
Since you have or show no "VALID" proof, you are "ONLY" stating your unproven opinion.
You are, of course, entitled to your opinion, always, but you need to make it clear what is your unsupported opinion and what are facts with valid
proof.
If you can not provide valid proof, you have nothing bit your opinion.
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reply posted on 9-6-2009 @ 09:45 AM by Solomons
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Ok i see what you are saying.
seattletimes.nwsource.com...
www.globalresearch.ca...
And just to add,you did say the source was lying.If you cross reference you will see they are not.So its not just me giving opinions here without any
evidence.I assumed you already investigated this tragic incident,obviously not.
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reply posted on 9-6-2009 @ 09:47 AM by Zerbst
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I have provided some for Solomons.
You are in a fight you cannot win. What Israel did is unforgivable to any true American. Take your bs back home where it belongs! I'm tired of giving
Jews a pass for all their despicable deeds. Evil as they come as far as I am concerned. And I don't mean Jews that are willing to stand for truth,
I'm talking about the ones that won't. Those that support Israel without regard to right and wrong.
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