Comunist China holds NOLA Mayor Ray Nagin HOSTAGE!, page 2
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reply posted on 9-6-2009 @ 02:17 AM by Mercenary2007
reply to post by whatukno



how about this, Nagan was sitting close to a passenger that was showing flu symptoms. so he is being held under quarantine to see if him his wife or body guard develop symptoms. If he doesn't they will unfortunately let him go.

their is no conspiracy here. but you are making wild accusations with absolutely no proof and you are probably trolling on very thin ice.

So my suggestion to you is come up with some proof to back up your wild claims before a mod comes along and post bans you for posting knowing false info!


reply posted on 9-6-2009 @ 02:33 AM by whatukno
China has charged Americans with spying before people. This fact isn't too far fetched.

2005

www.nytimes.com...]China Has Arrested American on Suspicion of Spying for Taiwan

2001

China Charges American Writer

2001

CALLING FOR THE IMMEDIATE RELEASE OF
CHINESE-AMERICAN SCHOLARS HELD IN CHINA


But no, not Nagin, he won't have to face bogus charges in a communist country. One known for BS charges, human rights violations, killing innocent protesters. They are the good guys.

The facts are right now. Nagin does not have the freedom of movement, he is confined to a hotel. He does not have the freedom of personal phone calls. Those phone calls are being monitored "For his own protection"

Right now this man is a political prisoner, he is being held without reason for the assumption that he has the Swine Flu.


[edit on 6/9/2009 by whatukno]


reply posted on 9-6-2009 @ 03:18 AM by Mercenary2007
reply to post by whatukno



Oh Please. If China wanted a political prisoner they would get someone that was actually worth something! Not some wannabe that is only a mayor.

and he was sitting a few rows from someone that had swine flu on his flight. China quarantines people exposed to swine flu for 7 days. in a hotel! not a prison.

Some people really need to get out more your making something out of nothing!



reply posted on 9-6-2009 @ 05:28 AM by CultureD
It seems that the US (clearly, according to some posters here) blames Nagin for the loss of NOLA in '05. Fine. All are entitled to their personal feelings regarding the Mayor. I will keep mine to myself.

That, howver, has naught to do with his and his wife's quarantine in Shanghai. They were on a flight with someone who had symptoms of flu. They have not been tested, as they have no symptoms. The Mayor is in contact with his staff regularly, and is in good spirits. His trip also included a visit to Australia, but under the circumstances of Australia's infection rate, he indicated he might decline the second phase of the trip to protect the Australians from any further risk.

The Chinese have quarantined multiple groups of Americans this Spring, as well as people from other countries where the rates of infection are high. China is a country of nearly 2B people- an H1N1 epidemic- or any kind, for that matter- would be utterly catastrophic. While the quarantine measures may seem draconian to those of us in the West, I must in some small way empathise with the Chinese- they are over a barrel- if they DON'T quarantine, and 1/3 or so of their citizens take ill this fall, there is simply no infrastructure to assist their healing. I don't agree with a good deal that happens in China,particularly as regards human rights, but in this case, putting the Mayor and his wife in a hotel for a week doesn't seem too horrible a fate.

And to those who think espionage is on the way, remember, he was invited to participate in the economic meetings in the Pacific Rim --China and Australia---(why? No idea, but he was).

I expect we'll see him back in NOLA soon, doing very little to protect it against the next storm- either atmospheric or microbial.....

www.wwltv.com...


reply posted on 9-6-2009 @ 05:39 AM by serenecalamityz
reply to post by whatukno




Lol funny guy, thats some quantum jumping you did on this one. Quarentine becomes a hostage situation when the quarentiners are Chinese?
No real shock they are monitering all calls on this, we know that China likes to keep her business to herself. But to say that anyone bringing flu like symptoms into the country could end up on the wrong end of a fireing squad is just a joke.


reply posted on 10-6-2009 @ 07:39 AM by niteboy82
reply to post by redhatty



Double Ditto. If they'd like to hold him until the end of time, I would have no complaints. There was almost a collective sigh of relief through the city when this news was announced.

Do you have any evidence whatsoever to prove that there is even an inkling of a chance of this happening? I have heard nothing/seen nothing that indicates he is being held hostage. And if he was held hostage, who would pay? I'd hang up my phone and go back to bed. I'm not on the unlimited minutes plan, and a call from Shanghai is more than I'm willing to pay.

This is a stretch, kudos to you for trying to make it work, just need more evidence to really work it.


reply posted on 10-6-2009 @ 08:34 AM by whatukno




Doesn't this strike anyone as odd? What would Ray Nagin be doing in China in the first place traveling to an Economic development summit? Also why would he be flying coach?

If it is just a standard 7 day quarantine, why are his calls being monitored? After all he supposedly isn't under suspicion for anything other than being potentially sick.

I read the messages loud and clear that there are those that don't like Ray Nagin. I have no opinion of this man other than what is brought up here. He is an American citizen. The facts right now are, this man is being detained against his will, and China does not have a good human rights record.


reply posted on 10-6-2009 @ 10:09 AM by niteboy82
Originally posted by whatuknoDoesn't this strike anyone as odd? What would Ray Nagin be doing in China in the first place traveling to an Economic development summit? Also why would he be flying coach?

He was attempting to get business interests currently looking at New Orleans to form a more solid plan of locating their businesses here. The reason he is flying coach is because he is currently in one of his many scandals, particularly in this case flying first class to vacation destinations which were paid for by businessmen who were awarded high price contracts by the city.

If it is just a standard 7 day quarantine, why are his calls being monitored? After all he supposedly isn't under suspicion for anything other than being potentially sick.

I doubt his phone calls are being that brutally monitored. He mostly uses a Blackberry to text anyway.

I read the messages loud and clear that there are those that don't like Ray Nagin. I have no opinion of this man other than what is brought up here. He is an American citizen. The facts right now are, this man is being detained against his will, and China does not have a good human rights record.

Oh please, they are going to risk getting other people infected so a mayor that does nothing much of good can go back to a city that is happy he is gone? Have you kept up with the other H1N1 threads on this site and the potentially explosive amount of people it is theorized to have infected that we didn't hear about? I'm not concerned about this man, he has a security guy with him. As far as I'm concerned in this case, if the State Department isn't moving in on this, there's no reason I should either.
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