Originally posted by Geladinhu

But the point is that (if these crop circles are not hoaxes and truly something extra-terrestrial) they are probably messages from them to us, so it has to be something that we understand.

And going with the same mind frame it is obvious that they are much more intelligent then us and would not have any trouble to identify and understand our symbols.

"Men was made in the image of God". I don't know, just see a lot of connections...

i can see where you are coming from, but it is my perspective that it would be nearly impossible for an extraterrestrial race to understand human culture to the degree humans do, regardless of how much more intelligent than us they are. i would fully expect them to understand our planet, solar system, etc much better than we do currently, maybe even within weeks of discovering the earth - but human culture is so subjective and complex that it would be like a human being trying to understand ant culture.

Originally posted by JScytale

Originally posted by Geladinhu

But the point is that (if these crop circles are not hoaxes and truly something extra-terrestrial) they are probably messages from them to us, so it has to be something that we understand.

And going with the same mind frame it is obvious that they are much more intelligent then us and would not have any trouble to identify and understand our symbols.

"Men was made in the image of God". I don't know, just see a lot of connections...

i can see where you are coming from, but it is my perspective that it would be nearly impossible for an extraterrestrial race to understand human culture to the degree humans do, regardless of how much more intelligent than us they are. i would fully expect them to understand our planet, solar system, etc much better than we do currently, maybe even within weeks of discovering the earth - but human culture is so subjective and complex that it would be like a human being trying to understand ant culture.

Do humans even understand their own culture? I don't think so (and I speak as an anthropologist). Culture for most humans is just a set of rules for how to behave that lies unconsciously in their minds. So it's not really a matter of understanding it but seeing the relationships. I'm sure aliens could see our relationship with that symbol and with the concept of fish.

It looks more like a octopus to me.

Originally posted by Geladinhu

Originally posted by JScytale

Originally posted by Geladinhu

But the point is that (if these crop circles are not hoaxes and truly something extra-terrestrial) they are probably messages from them to us, so it has to be something that we understand.

And going with the same mind frame it is obvious that they are much more intelligent then us and would not have any trouble to identify and understand our symbols.

"Men was made in the image of God". I don't know, just see a lot of connections...

i can see where you are coming from, but it is my perspective that it would be nearly impossible for an extraterrestrial race to understand human culture to the degree humans do, regardless of how much more intelligent than us they are. i would fully expect them to understand our planet, solar system, etc much better than we do currently, maybe even within weeks of discovering the earth - but human culture is so subjective and complex that it would be like a human being trying to understand ant culture.

Do humans even understand their own culture? I don't think so (and I speak as an anthropologist). Culture for most humans is just a set of rules for how to behave that lies unconsciously in their minds. So it's not really a matter of understanding it but seeing the relationships. I'm sure aliens could see our relationship with that symbol and with the concept of fish.

given a LOT of time, im sure they would be able to as well - but unraveling it would be extremely non-intuitive to them. understanding things about our physical world that should be very similar to theirs should be very very easy to them, but understanding how these strange creatures interpret their world, the subtleties of their communications, the intricacies of their culture - that would take generations of alien einsteins to get started on. look at some of the animals on our planet. we can understand things we can observe about say, army ants, easily - but could we ever really hope to distinguish between the "words" of their language of physical contact and chemicals, understand their motives, understand what goes through their minds when presented with an obstacle and how exactly they are actually organizing themselves to overcome it? no, we can see them create a bridge of ants and cross it and take note of that.

just to try and connect these some how some way : all three so far (jellyfish, dragonfly and fish ) all lay eggs. not saying that that is it but its a connection. also this fish one looks like a nuclear symbol where there tails meet up (not that i think it is ) just looks kinda like one

Originally posted by JScytale

Originally posted by Geladinhu

Originally posted by JScytale

Originally posted by Geladinhu

But the point is that (if these crop circles are not hoaxes and truly something extra-terrestrial) they are probably messages from them to us, so it has to be something that we understand.

And going with the same mind frame it is obvious that they are much more intelligent then us and would not have any trouble to identify and understand our symbols.

"Men was made in the image of God". I don't know, just see a lot of connections...

i can see where you are coming from, but it is my perspective that it would be nearly impossible for an extraterrestrial race to understand human culture to the degree humans do, regardless of how much more intelligent than us they are. i would fully expect them to understand our planet, solar system, etc much better than we do currently, maybe even within weeks of discovering the earth - but human culture is so subjective and complex that it would be like a human being trying to understand ant culture.

Do humans even understand their own culture? I don't think so (and I speak as an anthropologist). Culture for most humans is just a set of rules for how to behave that lies unconsciously in their minds. So it's not really a matter of understanding it but seeing the relationships. I'm sure aliens could see our relationship with that symbol and with the concept of fish.

given a LOT of time, im sure they would be able to as well - but unraveling it would be extremely non-intuitive to them. understanding things about our physical world that should be very similar to theirs should be very very easy to them, but understanding how these strange creatures interpret their world, the subtleties of their communications, the intricacies of their culture - that would take generations of alien einsteins to get started on. look at some of the animals on our planet. we can understand things we can observe about say, army ants, easily - but could we ever really hope to distinguish between the "words" of their language of physical contact and chemicals, understand their motives, understand what goes through their minds when presented with an obstacle and how exactly they are actually organizing themselves to overcome it? no, we can see them create a bridge of ants and cross it and take note of that.

I think you are thinking too "humanely small".

Originally posted by donttaserme
just to try and connect these some how some way : all three so far (jellyfish, dragonfly and fish ) all lay eggs. not saying that that is it but its a connection. also this fish one looks like a nuclear symbol where there tails meet up (not that i think it is ) just looks kinda like one

The nuclear symbol connection is interesting, I didn't mention it in the dragonfly thread but when I saw this picture:



it reminded me a lot of this picture:



And the jellyfish kinda looks like a mushroom cloud..

I'd be more inclined to think they all have something to do with nature though..