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Trooper acquitted in crash that killed sisters

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posted on Jun, 8 2009 @ 10:30 PM
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Trooper acquitted in crash that killed sisters


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CAPE MAY, N.J. - June 8, 2009 (WPVI) -- A New Jersey state trooper has been found not guilty of death by auto for a September 2006 crash that killed two teen sisters on their way to a store to buy milk.
Trooper Robert Higbee ran a stop sign while pursuing a speeder with his lights and siren off, and killed Jacqueline and Christina Becker in Cape May County's Upper Township.

Trooper Higbee says he wants to get back to work on the force.
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posted on Jun, 8 2009 @ 10:30 PM
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many are saying this was a tragic accident,, but not a crime
but why did he not have lights and sirens on????

the sisters may have seen/heard them and been spared the tragic outcome

and that last line,,"Trooper Higbee says he wants to get back to work on the force. that tells me he's not that upset or affected,,,, because most would feel such guilt,,,,,,well it just rubbed me the wrong way

also,,,,, i think he should have been retired/fired. do you want this guy working in your neighborhood?????

that's a pretty big screw-up,,, those girls are dead,DEAD.

doesn't that warrant losing your job????

bad week in nj area for cops
i also started a thread for a philly cop convicted of robbing drug dealers and stealing 40 grand here
www.abovetopsecret.com...


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posted on Jun, 8 2009 @ 10:46 PM
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Yhea, He should have had his lights and siren activated. He was tried in court and aquitted. His agency can not fire him or they could be sued by the he and his union. It is a tragic event. I am saddened for the mother of the girls. No parent should have to bury their children. I'm sure the trooper has lost sleep over this, if not then he should look for another job. If the mother so inclines she can still try to sue him civilly. Down here in a small town in Florida, our pursuit policy is almost nonexistant. Most of our car chases are now cancelled if the primary reason for the chase is traffic. Use to get me angered, but after chasing a bunch of these morons just because they didn't have a good license, I realized it's just not worth it. If the chase is allowed to continue, the pursuing officer better have his lights and siren going, has to give the pursuit speed, vehicle traffic conditions, pedestrian traffic conditions, and of course direction.



posted on Jun, 8 2009 @ 10:48 PM
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15 jurors said not guilty.

Let him go back to work.



posted on Jun, 8 2009 @ 10:55 PM
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The girl driving was 17 and had a learners permit. The sister was 19. The law there requires that someone driving with a learners permit must be accompanied by someone 21 or older. The passenger wasn't wearing her seat belt. They were on the road illegally...

www.pressofatlanticcity.com...



posted on Jun, 8 2009 @ 10:59 PM
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Originally posted by ATS Member
The girl driving was 17 and had a learners permit. The sister was 19. The law there requires that someone driving with a learners permit must be accompanied by someone 21 or older. The passenger wasn't wearing her seat belt. They were on the road illegally...

www.pressofatlanticcity.com...

And that makes it better? That justifies blaring through roads without sirens on to alert others on the road?

Uhhh, no.



posted on Jun, 8 2009 @ 11:01 PM
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Originally posted by ragnarak

Originally posted by ATS Member
The girl driving was 17 and had a learners permit. The sister was 19. The law there requires that someone driving with a learners permit must be accompanied by someone 21 or older. The passenger wasn't wearing her seat belt. They were on the road illegally...

www.pressofatlanticcity.com...

And that makes it better? That justifies blaring through roads without sirens on to alert others on the road?

Uhhh, no.


He was justified in blaring through roads without sirens on to alert others on the road.

15 jurors justified him by declaring him innocent.



posted on Jun, 8 2009 @ 11:02 PM
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yeah,, i've seen the troubles in FL as well,,,,,

the story of that college girl who was killed by the drug dealers

and that story ,i believe on dateline or 20/20 on the racial profiling.
the cop said the black guy he pulled over was swerving and they have videotape of it and the guy never even came close to touching a line, nevermind crossing over it,,,,,,,that cop was totally busted

they had the white guy and black guy drive the same car up and down the highway and the black guy was pulled over way more



and that guy that was harassed when wanting to file a complaint about an officer


of course,,,,, i guess they're bad people in every line of work,,,,,,so

it's just magnified when your a cop since you are the law and supposed to protect not harass or play cowboy



posted on Jun, 8 2009 @ 11:57 PM
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Why on earth was he not driving with his lights and sirens on? He should at least lose his job over this. His carelessness took two lives and he has no business returning to his position.

My senior year in high school, I was driving home from school when a police officer did a u-turn right in front of me which resulted in me t-boning him. Since school had just let out, we had a TON of witnesses that gave statements supporting my side of the events. The officer never turned his lights or sirens on and never pulled over to the side of the road or signaled in any way to let other motorists know what he was going to do.

Then what happened next was absurd- he was awarded a huge settlement through our insurance then sued me and since I was just a student, he sued my parents... despite the amount of witnesses we had saying he was completely lying.

He won the insurance claim but dropped the lawsuits once we started gathering all the witnesses to testify on my behalf. It was an extremely frustrating experience.

I cannot believe this officer is going to keep his job after screwing up so badly which resulted in loss of innocent life.


The girl driving was 17 and had a learners permit. The sister was 19. The law there requires that someone driving with a learners permit must be accompanied by someone 21 or older. The passenger wasn't wearing her seat belt. They were on the road illegally...


And?

The fact the victim was doing something illegal didn't help THIS GUY.

I don't believe the officer should get the chair or serve time but he should at the very least lose his position with the force.

[edit on 6/9/2009 by AshleyD]



posted on Jun, 9 2009 @ 12:24 AM
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wow,,you just brought back a memory

i was coming home one day,,,,, and i was about to pull in my driveway,,,,making a left,,so i had to travel across the other lane,,,,,just as i was about to turn ,,, i happened to glance in my mirror,,, and see a cop flying up behind me in that oppsite lane,,,,,,,i had my blinker on and if i had continued turning he would have t-boned me,,, killing me,,, or if he avoided me he would have been dead
of course he had no lights or sirens on,,,,,if he did,,,,, i would have heard him coming

i almost died that day



posted on Jun, 9 2009 @ 12:28 AM
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The only way he should be aquitted of that is if its policy to not have lights an sirens on. Otherwise hes as guilty as they get. If its policy then someone needs to sue his dpt. You could make some serious money because its an obvious policy that needs to be in his handbook.



posted on Jun, 9 2009 @ 01:44 AM
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Edited for clarities sake.... I still think the officer was drinking. No lights No siren running stop signs.... Something aint right....

[edit on 9-6-2009 by titorite]



posted on Jun, 9 2009 @ 01:45 AM
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This thread depresses me. I see the police getting away with more and more every day?

To serve and protect? NO! "To oppress and destroy"



posted on Jun, 9 2009 @ 01:52 AM
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Originally posted by Happyfeet
This thread depresses me. I see the police getting away with more and more every day?

To serve and protect? NO! "To oppress and destroy"


15 jurors found him innocent. Its not like this got swept under the rug during an internal investigation. He was charged and tried, a jury of everyday citizens found him not guilty.

Unless you feel he should have not gotten a trial and instead was just sent to prison?

He showed remorse in his comments, just because he isn't going to sit in a dark room harping over what happened until he is broke and homeless doesn't mean he doesn't care about those kids.

But of course most will say that he doesn't mean what he said.



posted on Jun, 9 2009 @ 01:53 AM
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Any civilian who killed those two people who be up on at least manslaughter charges.

This trooper should be before the court for manslaughter.

He should have had lights and sirens on - here in NZ that is mandatory.

He is keen to get back to work - excuse me? He has killed two children and seemingly has no remorse?

This is shocking and unacceptable to decent people.



posted on Jun, 9 2009 @ 01:56 AM
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If he was pursuing a speeder then he should have had the lights and siren on. Those devices are there for a reason, to alert others that they are coming and to use caution or get out of the way. Was this officer really chasing a speeder or was that just cooked up as an excuse for him breaking the law?

Here in the UK I see police cars breaking the speed limits all the time. Just last weekend, early in the morning, I was passed on a dual carriageway by a speeding police car. The Limit is 70mph and I was sticking to it when I was passed by a police road patrol vehicle who must have been doing 90+mph. No lights, no siren, just a clear road for a blast. If that had been me then I'd have been fined and had points on my license, no question.



posted on Jun, 9 2009 @ 01:57 AM
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Originally posted by ATS Member
The girl driving was 17 and had a learners permit. The sister was 19. The law there requires that someone driving with a learners permit must be accompanied by someone 21 or older. The passenger wasn't wearing her seat belt. They were on the road illegally...

www.pressofatlanticcity.com...


And that somehow clears him of their death? It's funny how people try to justify wrongs with wrongs..

The fact that the cop was acquitted by a jury of his peers was a much more solid argument.



posted on Jun, 9 2009 @ 02:08 AM
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Riddle me this: He said he was pursuing a speeder lights off no sirens...

How was the person he was chasing supposed to know to pull over if the trooper had no light and no sirens going?

His shady story says drunk driver to me.



posted on Jun, 9 2009 @ 02:19 AM
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Originally posted by titorite

Trooper Higbee says he wants to get back to work on the force. that tells me he's not that upset or affected,,,, because most would feel such guilt,,,,,,well it just rubbed me the wrong way


That statement right there. Trooper Higbee is neither upset or even affected.
He killed two teenage girls and it does not bother him in the least but to say it rubbed him the wrong way....



sorry,,,, that was my statement,,,, the cop said" i can't wait to get back to work"

i was saying that, that staement rubbed me the wrong way,,,,, if i killed two teenage girls,,,,, i don't think i'd say,,, i can't wait to get back to work,,,where i just killed 2 girls

me, personally,,, i'd have to retire or find a new career



posted on Jun, 9 2009 @ 02:59 AM
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Thing is, here in the UK, if those Police had been involved in an accident of any kind, they would have been charged and, most likely, sent to prison. There have been several cases recently like this and in every occasion the Policeperson has been charged with dangerous driving at least, or in the case of people being killed, causing death by dangerous driving.

One Policeman was sent to prison for 3 years, I think, a few weeks ago for running down a 16 year old by doing 90 in an urban road without his lights or sirens. He claimed they were on and he was "pursuing a suspect vehicle", but the video and witness evidence said otherwise.

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