Originally posted by muzzleflash


maybe this school board needs to get fired?

i personally think so, the Constitution does not end on a school grounds
in fact it is very present and should be observed at all times

of course, common decency is expected from all parties, but having cameras keeps EVERYONE in line IMO

[edit on 8-6-2009 by muzzleflash]

Exactly the correct mindset. Right now the only less than lethal weapon we have to use against police is public outrage caused by video.

Hmm. What happens if you're studying photography or video art at school? Pretty much every high school art curriculum involves photography at some point.

honestly, it doesn't really bother me. When I was in high school, we were not allowed to have any electronic device out of our purse or backpack in school due to it being a possible distraction. We even had to hand in our TI-83's weekly to make sure we had not installed any games on them.

I don't believe suspension is in order, but keep it out of sight in the classroom. Unless you see a teacher strangling a student...then bust it out and document away.

It seems like a simple compromise to me. You can keep it on your person, but leave it hidden unless you have permission to use it, or witness something where photo or video documentation will benefit the parties involved.

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[edit on 8-6-2009 by Heatburger]

[edit on 8-6-2009 by Heatburger]

There are good reasons why they want to ban photos/video on campus including the whole "sexting" kiddie porn scandal at several schools in Florida, but this is a good argument for keeping them. Florida has MAJOR problems with teacher-on-student violence and sex offenses, much more so than any other state I have heard of. There've been several arrests just in the past six months for assaults, sex crimes and other crimes including a special ed teacher who duct taped an ADD student to a chair and taped his mouth closed. LOTS of complaints against those teachers across the state and they never seem to get resolved. There also have been several incidents in the past few months where kids have texted each other about afterschool fights and they have turned into serious brawls with dozens of kids, a bunch of teens were arrested last month in Leesburg for that and they are all facing adult criminal charges.

They should stimulate the economy by hiring someone to monitor closed circuit tv on campuses, it would solve some of these problems since teachers would be held accountable.

Originally posted by secretagent woooman
Florida, but this is a good argument for keeping them. Florida has MAJOR problems with teacher-on-student violence and sex offenses, much more so than any other state I have heard of. There've been several arrests just in the past six months for assaults, sex crimes and other crimes including a special ed teacher who duct taped an ADD student to a chair and taped his mouth closed. LOTS of complaints against those teachers across the state and they never seem to get resolved. There also have been several incidents in the past few months where kids have texted each other about afterschool fights and they have turned into serious brawls with dozens of kids, a bunch of teens were arrested last month in Leesburg for that and they are all facing adult criminal charges.

agreed! Maybe that's really why they want them out. I watched an episode of Dr. Phil a few weeks back where the issue was child abuse in schools. One family only found out their child was being verbally and psychologically abused by his teacher because they hid a tape recorder in his cargo pants pocket. There was also disturbing footage of a girl being sent to "Time out" for 3 hours or something, but this was recorded BY the SCHOOL and they were "proud" of their discipline system.

really makes you wonder whether it's the kids or teachers who are worse.

par for the course for Duval County School Board, the chool board in Duval County is as corrupt as the JSO.

I had several fights abnd run-ins with this school board while my daughter was in school, finaly I had to take her out and since i worked nights at the time, I homeschooled her myself.

maybe this is why the youth seem so uber-violent these days

perhaps because we Adults teach them "violence solves problems"

like when we get in a argument we threaten each other and then it can become physical combat

kid wont shut up? choke em till he does

iraq wont comply? bomb them to pieces

terrorists threaten us? bomb another country

person on street argues with cop? they get tazed and beaten down


Kids are Violent Because WE TEACH THEM TO BE!!

Originally posted by muzzleflash
maybe this is why the youth seem so uber-violent these days

perhaps because we Adults teach them "violence solves problems"

like when we get in a argument we threaten each other and then it can become physical combat

kid wont shut up? choke em till he does

iraq wont comply? bomb them to pieces

terrorists threaten us? bomb another country

person on street argues with cop? they get tazed and beaten down


Kids are Violent Because WE TEACH THEM TO BE!!

Gee sir, you just hit the nail on the head. I wish people could grasp this amazingly hard concept.

SMALL TOWN TX ELEMENTARY ASSAULTS Where should I post or report assault issues about a school that did not provide students rights to a safe environment? The past three years 2008-2011 my little boy was weekly beat up at school. I have pictures of black eyes. We have copies of over 42 school nurse logs of injuries at school were they tried to sweep it under the rug and did not notify/me/parent. After fighting with school administration for three years to purchase an ANTI-BULLY program www.BULLYFREE.com to teach teachers to intervene/recognize/stop the bullying and harassment. They purchased the training kit it after I removed my baby from school. Injuries include black eyes, repeatedly punched in the face, knocked to the ground, pushed into a concrete wall, kicked in the head, Stomach aches - Vomiting and headaches at school only no fever - stress related anxiety, Neck pain and back pain sleeps with an ice bag on his neck every night. Nightmares of being ganged on at school. African American teachers sat him at a table alone in the lunch room to keep the African American bullies from beating him (segregation/discrimination) at the bad boys table. Told my 9 year old DYSLEXIC boy he was not in trouble but had to sit alone. When he tried to tell the teacher he was beaten they would not listen to him. He stopped telling. Principal sent him home with black eyes denied school nurses request to call parents for help. I don't want them to get away with this. OCR is investigating but nothing has been published yet.