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reply posted on 8-6-2009 @ 02:47 PM by poedxsoldiervet
Originally posted by NoHopeForSome
Originally posted by poedxsoldiervet
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He apologizes every time he is out of the country for Americas "Sins". Americans can not stomach there leader saying this country is bad, We have done more good then evil, and we try to atone for our sins.


But America HAS done a lot of stuff that you need to say sorry for. I'm not an anti-American, but if were going to sit here on this board and say that the Iraq war was injust, then you can't then start kicking up a fuss when the leader says sorry for starting this war.


1.) America has nothing to be sorry for, well wait maybe in 1991 we should have kicked Saddams Ass then and been done with it. Freedom has been preserved in the west off of American's Blood and Money. Where would the England be if we diddnt side with you during World War II? Must likely Praising Hitler right about now.

2.) We know our faults in this country OUR President should not be doing what he is doing. It makes us look weak.

3.) For the past 65 Years England has been our Road Dogs going and doing whatever and wherever we go. So again Fix your own country first.

But I think soon enough you will be calling us again when Allahs Soldiers start running amok over there in England Like they are starting to do now.
Good luck with.


reply posted on 8-6-2009 @ 02:50 PM by mental modulator



reply posted on 8-6-2009 @ 02:58 PM by daddyroo45
Originally posted by NoHopeForSome
Originally posted by poedxsoldiervet
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post by NoHopeForSome



He apologizes every time he is out of the country for Americas "Sins". Americans can not stomach there leader saying this country is bad, We have done more good then evil, and we try to atone for our sins.


But America HAS done a lot of stuff that you need to say sorry for. I'm not an anti-American, but if were going to sit here on this board and say that the Iraq war was injust, then you can't then start kicking up a fuss when the leader says sorry for starting this war.

You are right,I want to apologize right now for our interference in the European theater during WWII. We were attacked by Japan and were drawn into that conflict, but we had no right or reason to become involved in Europe's war. We as a country should stand clear of conflict between other countries. Let each man stand on his own I say!


reply posted on 8-6-2009 @ 03:00 PM by NoHopeForSome




1) America joined in the war at the last possible second and raves that it one the war. You did no such thing and I think you should be ashamed of yourself for saying that. The UK troops one what war, America did 5 minutes of work and got itself the killshot and took all the glory. That war would have been one by us no matter what America did. You didn't come to the rescue, you got involved when you were pushed to, so don't give me that 'riding in on a horse to save the day' BS. If you had been left alone, you would have never even got involved.

2) By not saying sorry, he makes you look like idiots. The ENTIRE world knows where America is going wrong because they all get to sit on the internet and Twitter and Blog and Myspace and Facebook there opinions. To say sorry when your wrong shows class, and it's a good thing to so.

3) The UK doesn't want to be your lap dog anymore. This is part of the reason Brown is in the place he is in. Nobody wants to be involved with any foreign leaders here because of the state we are in. Given the choice, 90 odd % of the UK would have us be an island in foreign policy terms, because we need to look inward before we galavant over the work in the sidecar telling people how to live, which is something the US is just as guilty of.

As far was Allah's soldiers, the reason they are mad is because Bush decided to take a trip to look for invisible WMD's/oil/chocolate/whatever and they reacted to the invasion, just as we or you would. The threat is there because we started it.


reply posted on 8-6-2009 @ 03:09 PM by poedxsoldiervet
1) America joined in the war at the last possible second and raves that it one the war. You did no such thing and I think you should be ashamed of yourself for saying that. The UK troops one what war, America did 5 minutes of work and got itself the killshot and took all the glory. That war would have been one by us no matter what America did. You didn't come to the rescue, you got involved when you were pushed to, so don't give me that 'riding in on a horse to save the day' BS. If you had been left alone, you would have never even got involved.

2) By not saying sorry, he makes you look like idiots. The ENTIRE world knows where America is going wrong because they all get to sit on the internet and Twitter and Blog and Myspace and Facebook there opinions. To say sorry when your wrong shows class, and it's a good thing to so.

3) The UK doesn't want to be your lap dog anymore. This is part of the reason Brown is in the place he is in. Nobody wants to be involved with any foreign leaders here because of the state we are in. Given the choice, 90 odd % of the UK would have us be an island in foreign policy terms, because we need to look inward before we galavant over the work in the sidecar telling people how to live, which is something the US is just as guilty of.

As far was Allah's soldiers, the reason they are mad is because Bush decided to take a trip to look for invisible WMD's/oil/chocolate/whatever and they reacted to the invasion, just as we or you would. The threat is there because we started it.

We joined the war in 1941, prior to us joining the war we supplied England with money, weapons, beans, and bullets, ever heard of the Lend-Lease act? And we don’t act as if We solely won the war but hey lets face it you guys were toast and it was only a matter of time before the NAZIS blockaded England, and Invaded it. And yes America Was Pushed into the War by the Jap Attack shouldn’t that tell other nations not to Push?

2.) We did nothing wrong in Iraq, Everyone believed (yes Including England and the UN) that Saddam Had WMDs or had the capability to produce them. While we did not find large quainites of them like Bush said there would be we did find some. (Including SCUD MISSLES which he wasn’t suppose to have.)

3.) I never called England are Lap Dogs but are ROAD DOGS. There a difference Google it.

4.) Allah’s warriors want to hurt you regardless if what bush did Terriosm isn’t new to them but keep your head in the clouds and your mouth off America.


reply posted on 8-6-2009 @ 03:16 PM by getreadyalready
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2.) We did nothing wrong in Iraq, Everyone believed (yes Including England and the UN) that Saddam Had WMDs or had the capability to produce them. While we did not find large quainites of them like Bush said there would be we did find some. (Including SCUD MISSLES which he wasn’t suppose to have.)


Even Saddam's own troops thought they had the weapons! They were emboldened with confidence by the knowledge that "some other unit" had WMD's.

Rumors are that the weapons were shipped out directly before the invasion, or that it was a universal bluff, and everyone bought it!

Additionally:

Only Russia has a case to make about who won the war. They would not have protected UK, but they certainly mounted an historic winter defense, and later marched into Berlin!

So USA, sure, Russia, maybe, UK, no way!


reply posted on 8-6-2009 @ 06:12 PM by lt lou360
reply to post by NoHopeForSome

hey there, another american here, I agree with most of what you wrote. I'm a history prof and your right, but our kids are taught a lot of propaganda. The russians beat the nazi's and we are very grateful you brits held out against the luftwaffe. we like to come in and save the day. notice all our adventure sci fi movies? don't hate us and don't look down upon us, its our diversity that is our strength and hope for our planet. no where else can you have a peaceful powerful public discourse that runs so deep. its why we rock! And England? we wouldn't be here without you. god save the queen and the clash!


reply posted on 8-6-2009 @ 06:40 PM by winotka
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Regurtitate talking points much? If I had wanted that, I would've googled O'Reilly or Olbermann.

Let the blast back begin...


reply posted on 8-6-2009 @ 07:03 PM by SpacePunk
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With the 'private' health care system there aren't unqualified people making health care decisions (I suppose a guy at the insurance company with a spreadsheet is qualified), health care is affordable (only if you have or can afford insurance, are poor, or are rich), and there's no bureaucracy (nope, no paperwork to fill out).
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