posted on Jun, 16 2009 @ 03:43 AM
The following post is a bit long but I think it does give some insight towards understanding the "issue" of religion and faith.
I find most people that are atheists or are against religions are just riding on their own anger, suffering, ego or arrogance. My parents are
atheists, whilst I'm not. This is why:
Religion is like fire, but one which is always burning inside us and can either be used to do the worst of and greatest of things. We all have it in
some way, but just wouldn't impose it on others - at a time being that is.
Many great people were also very religious, and that certainly is not a negative thing whatsoever, not at all.
Religion is like a woman. There are men who isolate themselves from women, as if they are greater beings, as if women make them do bad things. Muslims
are very isolated from other women, because they corrupt men with effective seduction.
Belief is a relative attribute of living beings. Dog believes his master will rise up from dead and stands on his master's grave waiting for the
Not being rational isn't being religious, it's just being irrational.
We stick all kinds of labels on ourselves - I'm Christian, I'm Buddhist, I'm Muslim... it's just that, a mark, like that "mark of the beast" and
nothing greater than just simply marking one as a human being.
The problem is we don't know who we are, we barely even know what we are. The word "science" is becoming a label, the same label as "Christian",
it is only starting to get exploited in modern times as much as religion. Science says this, science says that - who is science, is it a man sitting
on clouds who is better than you, or is it a bearded monkey with glasses and a diploma who is better than you?
Science is better than religion? Then science IS religion. Atheism is truth? I say it isn't, but what is then? Of course I don't know what is truth,
you probably don't know either. Even if you did, you couldn't express it with letters - truth is absolute and can't be reproduced. You say you know
the truth but not absolute truth? That statement is just misleading, it's deceptive and seductive, much as religion you're opposed to.
What iulslion has been posting are words from numerous philosophers, scientists, and even men who claim to know the truth, who know themselves. He's
not speaking truth, but lies, in best possible intentions, just like you - one can't possibly write truth. Not in stone tablets, not here in ATS
either. Don't dismiss what he said, he's read and done probably more research into "Evolution of Belief" than all of us who posted here - it's
not mumbo jumbo.
We people learn through days, through life, experiences, through evolution. We learn and yet we always believe in truth, some truth, for belief is
what starts the journey towards absolute truth and what energy you invest into that journey is what you will get in return.
If you search with anger, you will find anger. If you search with pure curiosity, you'll find even more curiosity.
Religion is just natural, it's not deviating from nature. However, we want to change things by proposing a same thing with different label on it -
that's why we get so much resistance, because we do it with very resistance in ourselves, resistance towards the same thing with another name.
Knowledge is also religion. I won't label it with "good" or "bad", that's just silly. Knowledge can be abused, it is always a lie, but we must
walk the path of lies to get to truth, just as we must suffer in order to feel joy. You can't just deny ignorance, it's like denying pain - it
doesn't lead anywhere, just anchors you to one same spot.
If you truly want to find the truth, you must understand as much things as you can. Try to understand what you hate the most, instead of just throwing
rocks at it. By investing positive energy, you will get positive feedback and will understand how religion truly functions and why are we atheists at
the same time
[edit on 16-6-2009 by SassyCat]