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Virginia Man Charged With Making Threats Against Police On Infowars

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posted on Jun, 8 2009 @ 05:30 PM
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like i said forget the pigs man, they abuse power and just to walk away, they kill someone its an accident every single time, but if i was to "accidentally" kill someone what would i get 25-life they get paid suspension if that and a reprimand which is prolly just a talk on how to not get caught doing it




posted on Jun, 8 2009 @ 08:47 PM
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Building on what Darthorious mentioned.

If they can get the IP from Infowars, they can trace the IP to a specific Internet Service Provider. All it would take is a court order to the ISP and *poof* -- they would have everything they need.



posted on Jun, 8 2009 @ 08:55 PM
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Yes there are some crooked individuals in law enforcement. There are also crooked lawyers, doctors, teachers....pick your profession....they are out there.

But the fact of the matter is that this type of response is purely irresponsible. I am sure Alex doesn't have the time to read every response on his site, nor the resources to moderate everything.

Those threats only create more problems, whether they are carried out or not. Period.



posted on Jun, 8 2009 @ 09:29 PM
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Originally posted by gormly

again...this moron was threatening murder of a police officer and his family.




but when some police officer murders civilians (far worse than making threats) nothing changes

everything stays the same and everyone trys to justify an unjustifyable act

therefore this will happen more and more, and people will revolt hard core

you can condemn anyone you want, but the reality is that 2 sides are forming into an all out war to the death

if your smart you will begin planning an escape route rather than wasting all your time condemning everyone or griping


just dig in and wait till the hurricane passes us...



posted on Jun, 8 2009 @ 09:44 PM
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You know, when I read some of the posts in this thread, I seriously wonder what is wrong with some of you. If you want to start a thread about the abuse of power on the part of some law enforcement personnel, have at it. If you want to criticize particular officers based on their actions, that's fine. If you want to call for their firing, again, that's your right.

What you cannot do is to put lives in danger because you want to be an internet tough guy. If you do that and then threaten the lives of the officers and their families, then you have broken the law and should be prosecuted.

And if you don't have a problem with someone doing this, you should be ashamed of yourself and should really consider seeking professional help.



posted on Jun, 8 2009 @ 09:53 PM
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The guy was obviously mentally ill and a danger to us all. The police were doing their job in this case. There are too damned many violent acts taking place recently and I am afraid this would have been another one seen in the headlines if they had not caught him.



posted on Jun, 8 2009 @ 10:05 PM
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Originally posted by muzzleflash


therefore this will happen more and more, and people will revolt hard core

you can condemn anyone you want, but the reality is that 2 sides are forming into an all out war to the death

if your smart you will begin planning an escape route rather than wasting all your time condemning everyone or griping




Drama queens of the world unite! Those of us who remember similar discourse during the 60s and 70s can tell you that this kind of that it's all talk.

2 sides are forming into an all out war to the death?

What are the weapons of choice? Nasty message board posts?

Puhhhleeeese.



posted on Jun, 9 2009 @ 03:12 AM
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Actually, it wasn't. They can easily set up a stake out around his house. Follow him when he goes to "kill" this man. Then stop him there. Just as they do on the "How to Catch a Predator" who on Dateline MSNBC.

Arresting a man for saying he is going to do something is unconstitutional. Arresting a man for saying something, then acting upon it is justice.

You are likely one of those lost causes.

*IMO, this cop should be serving a life sentence. Better yet, get the death penalty so I don't have to pay for such a sorry excuse of matter to enjoy 3 square and a bed.

[edit on 9-6-2009 by shanerz]



posted on Jun, 9 2009 @ 03:16 AM
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You guys would all do well to read my thread Tarrant Lawsuit Bad?. The real vermin in this whole mess are the record companies. Do you think that's crazy? Read the link........



posted on Jun, 9 2009 @ 03:35 AM
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Originally posted by gormly




*SIGH*

No,.. what is sad is that someone would have these thoughts to begin with. If someone feels the need to disguise their thoughts of murder, then they need to see a specialist instead of posting on a website..


What is sad is when cops, people who are supposed to protect us, go on a power trip and kill a kid - and seeing the scope of the problem, it is definitely a power issue, possibly agenda. Wanting justice is nowhere near needing professional help, taking justice into our own hands is wrong - I agree. But it almost seems like it isn't possible anymore, at least I woulnd't blame a victim of one of these acts for feeling that way. That's what is really sad.



This guy did not voice an "opinion".
An OPINION is not "I am going to murder this police officer and his family", that is a threat.

Opinions are protected, threats are not.


And this is why sexual internet predators are not sexual predators until they enter the estate of their intended prey? Far worse a crime than murder to inflict the burden that rape, even sex, carries on a kid who just went through puberty, or younger, imho.



You think that it is ok to announce a threat of murder as long as it is in the third person?


I think it's ok to get wryled up, rightfully so (loss of a kids life), and make an exhadurated statement - don't say you never have, because no one will believe you anyway. To go to this man's, who "protects and serves", house after the intention statement is an entirely different scenario - even if just to call him a pig.



Like what "Someone should murder this pig and his family?"
That's ok to you?


The pig should get the death penalty, as I already stated.


*Last thing I'll say to this: These acts by police officers are definitely terrorist acts. It makes people fear that those who supposedly serve them may actually bring them harm, evidence points to, unjustifiably so. This IS terrorism. We supposedly live in a country where we can feel safe enough to go about our daily lives. Yet, we don't - obviously.

Strike 1 for the first amendment.

[edit on 9-6-2009 by shanerz]

[edit on 9-6-2009 by shanerz]



posted on Jun, 9 2009 @ 06:22 AM
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The police are disgusting. How much of a threat was this guy to a cop in CA? It soiunds like they charged him for threatening that cop as well. I am not sure hoiw far distance wise the other cop was in relation to the person making the threat but if it was in another state the police should have been able to discern if it was someone blowing off steam or a redible threat. Either way the threat was wrong but come on, was they guy even capable of carrying out the threat due to distance, time or any number of factors?

Believe it or not, people realize the score. They are only talking about being vigilantes because they know the justice system will not convict or punish cops who are convicted. People know the DA and court system treats cops differently. Part of this is backlash from that. How long did they think people would put up with a double standard?

Last, I live in California but I had someone in Phoenix threaten me on the Internet on a car forum. He was a con artist I was about to expose and he knew my address and put it on the forum. In a nutshell, he threatened me in a very similiar manner to what this guy did to those cops. Here is the kicker, the AZ cops wouldn't do anything unless the threat was more 'substantial'. The local CA police agency would take a report and have a detective look at the complaint and get back to me. That was two years ago and I am still waiting on a call back. People are upset by this because it is another 'double standard' where they are going out of their way for themselves when they wouldn't for most people.

Really, check out my thread about your information: Tarrant Lawsuit Bad?



posted on Jun, 9 2009 @ 06:46 AM
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The guy who posted the address should be charged with aiding and abedding..
laws of a death threat
www.uslaw.com...



posted on Jun, 9 2009 @ 06:59 AM
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Why? It's a very popular idea to get the address of people who committ crimes. Look at all the protests in front of Drew Peterson's house, Casey Anthony and the signs people place near a sex offenders residence. In fact, for sex offenders the state just gives you their address. Again, all of theses people have family. Are we going to treat this different because he is a LEO?



posted on Jun, 9 2009 @ 07:02 AM
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I probably hate cops more than any of you here, but to make such a threat is just stupid, and the person that posted the address is stupid too.

Making statements about hating cops or even a generic comment about giving them back what they dish out is just fine. You just cannot go around threatening to take a gun, special ammo, a vest, to someones home and blowing them and their family away.

I do see the other side of this though. I was once threatened by someone, I had a recording on my voice mail and the cops said that him saying he was going to shoot me and my daughter and was cruising the neighborhood watching for us in the window was not enough for a warrant and that he was probably kidding. We had court papers showing a history of violence and an order of protection, but that was not good enough. We finally had to go to the headquarters for someone to listen.

Cops could care less about citizens, but if they are threatened or even questioned they are ready to do serious damage to you. I hate cops and do hope that every one of them gets just what they deserve, what they do to citizens, should be done to them. Gee, was I safe to say that.


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posted on Jun, 9 2009 @ 07:03 AM
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Originally posted by GTORick
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Why? It's a very popular idea to get the address of people who committ crimes. Look at all the protests in front of Drew Peterson's house, Casey Anthony and the signs people place near a sex offenders residence. In fact, for sex offenders the state just gives you their address. Again, all of theses people have family. Are we going to treat this different because he is a LEO?
certainly not..I could care less if hes a cop..A threat is a threat..I dont care if its popular or not to find addresses and whatnot..

If the sole reason the address was posted was to give the guy his address,its aiding him with a crime..Simple,cased closed..

same way if any one posted ''hey were can I find an underage child to rape'' and then someone posted an address..



posted on Jun, 9 2009 @ 07:07 AM
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Originally posted by Redpillblues


same way if any one posted ''hey were can I find an underage child to rape'' and then someone posted an address..


Sadly, as long as the underage child's father was a cop, that would be just fine with some of the posters here in this thread.



posted on Jun, 9 2009 @ 07:19 AM
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I should refine what I mean by popular. It has become legal sport to advertise or release people'shome addresses. It is popular, meaning very prevalent to obtain legally from the courts. Did you read my link? It covers this a bit. Tarrant Law Suit Bad?

If his intent was to solely give the person threatening the cop his address then he might be an accomplice however, if the information is easily obtainable legally (again, read my link......thank the music companies) then he only saved him time.



posted on Jun, 9 2009 @ 10:17 AM
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i have got to say something here. its ok for our government and law makers to take our troops into a foreign nation and kill millions of people throughout the last century. its ok for law makers to change laws so people have a 3 strike outs and our in jail for the rest of there lifes. but one man that was pissed off as hell for one day is under arrest? are you kidding me.

drink some more of the kool aid people

because you just fell back into the matrix program.



posted on Jun, 9 2009 @ 10:51 AM
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Originally posted by gormly
You know what bothers me?

ALL OF YOU

RTFA!!

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"If I find out who the pig is then I will kill the pig who killed him," Weaver wrote on Jan. 5, according to the complaint.

A short time later, the address of one of the police officers involved in the shooting was posted to the Web site.

"Thanks for the address," the next post read. "Now that I know who he is and where he is it's only a matter of time." The complaint quoted Weaver as saying he planned to kill the officer's wife and child before killing him.


THE ADDRESS OF THE POLICE OFFICER INVOLVED WAS POSTED TO THE SAME THREAD AND THE OFFICERS FAMILY WAS THREATENED


This wasn't a "F-- the pigs" comment, it was a threat of murder. This was no longer a free speech issue, what is wrong with you people?

he went way over the line.



Thank you... evidently most of the posters on this thread (not all) expect anonymous anarchy to be the rule of the day.

They forget that even though we have a right to free speech, threats of bodily harm are AGAINST THE LAW.... even on-line....

I for one am glad to see justice done here. Sure police brutality is a huge problem, and sure, I am the first one to encourage any mob around police who are brutalizing someone to do something about it...

But to make a death threat on a particular police officer? How stupid and illegal can you be? And y'all expect him to be free to do so?

Wow.... buncha feces throwing monkeys in my opinion...



posted on Jun, 9 2009 @ 08:53 PM
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Originally posted by HunkaHunka

They forget that even though we have a right to free speech, threats of bodily harm are AGAINST THE LAW.... even on-line....

But to make a death threat on a particular police officer? How stupid and illegal can you be? And y'all expect him to be free to do so?

Wow.... buncha feces throwing monkeys in my opinion...



Your first amendment:


Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right if the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.


Obviously any law passed abridging the freedom of speech is uncontitutional. Obviously, one cannot be held accountable for saying ANYTHING (hence the word FREE in front of speech). Obviously, one must act upon their stated intentions in order to be held accountable.

Ever watch "How to Catch a Predator"? Ever notice how they set up shop at the 'victims' residence? Why? WELL.... because it's the only constitutional way to go about it. Seriously, you can't arrest someone for telling a joke. This man admitted to being mad, with no real intention... what if he was just telling a joke? LOL. Comedians are not stupid, they are funny.

Wow... can't handle it when someone calls you names can you? Gotta cry to daddy G to solve all your problems, in my opinion... No wonder why our country is in the toilet, atm. No one wants to do anything for themselves. Anarchy? Hardly. I feel bad for the crap those kids who shoot up schools and such go through, yes I really do feel for them, but if their parents/teachers/whoever were aware of their situation - they could have acquired help. End of story.

FREE means nothing can stop whatever is in question. NOTHING. We are not free to act upon intention to muder, hence it is not in the constitution.

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