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Virginia Man Charged With Making Threats Against Police On Infowars

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posted on Jun, 8 2009 @ 10:28 AM
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Virginia Man Charged With Making Threats Against Police On Infowars


www.infowars.com

A Roanoke man faces charges of making online threats against two police officers -- one in Oakland, Calif., and one in Martinsville -- after reading newspaper accounts of incidents in which they used deadly force.
Jeffrey L. Weaver, 47, made the threatening comments in January on a news Web site called infowars.com, according to a complaint filed earlier this week in U.S. District Court in Roanoke.
Weaver, who was ordered held without bond Friday, logged onto the site using the name "F---
(visit the link for the full news article)


Related News Links:
www.roanoke.com




posted on Jun, 8 2009 @ 10:28 AM
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Found this story on infowars.com and it was confirmed with a link to the Roanoke Times website. Kind of scary really. I've seen a lot of the posts that people have made in the forums, and quite a few are a lot similar to this one. Online anonymity seems to be a thing of the past.

My question is:

How did the police find out who he was?


www.infowars.com
(visit the link for the full news article)



posted on Jun, 8 2009 @ 10:36 AM
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Police: "We are allowed to abuse power, and beat defensless suspects!"

Avg. Joe: "I can't believe the police did that, if I was there I would have beaten those cops!"

Police: "Did you hear that!?! He is talking about acting like us, get him!!"

What is it they say about absolute power?

(PS: Regardless if this suspect was defensless, you can not discout the multitude of cases that weren't. Those are stored in the brains of us humans, and used in later equations involving police+excessive force.)

---All my opinion



posted on Jun, 8 2009 @ 10:38 AM
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OMG , is this USA ??

seriously, I am shocked , it seems so nazi or soviet like police behaviour .

next what , the disgusting FEMA death camps



posted on Jun, 8 2009 @ 10:47 AM
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The INTERNET now belongs to the government or you have not been following the news lately when Obama created the new office of cyberspace "security", to be run by the military and Homeland of deception, and will be from the white House itself.

So don't be surprised this means that now the government doesn't have to lie on how they spy on Americas citizens.



posted on Jun, 8 2009 @ 10:47 AM
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Originally posted by kommunist


Found this story on infowars.com and it was confirmed with a link to the Roanoke Times website. Kind of scary really. I've seen a lot of the posts that people have made in the forums, and quite a few are a lot similar to this one. Online anonymity seems to be a thing of the past.

My question is:

How did the police find out who he was?


www.infowars.com
(visit the link for the full news article)


Just an IP address I'm sure. If the site saves the IP addresses of the posters (most sites you post on do) it's just a matter of getting that or if he had an email address all they need to do is email him make sure it's the correct email by soliciting some type of positive response from him and use the IP address linked to the email to nail him.

Hence the reason always use the library's computer when in doubt. But don't sign in with your real name if the library has a required sign in area.


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posted on Jun, 8 2009 @ 10:51 AM
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You know what bothers me?

ALL OF YOU

RTFA!!

Quotes:

"If I find out who the pig is then I will kill the pig who killed him," Weaver wrote on Jan. 5, according to the complaint.

A short time later, the address of one of the police officers involved in the shooting was posted to the Web site.

"Thanks for the address," the next post read. "Now that I know who he is and where he is it's only a matter of time." The complaint quoted Weaver as saying he planned to kill the officer's wife and child before killing him.


THE ADDRESS OF THE POLICE OFFICER INVOLVED WAS POSTED TO THE SAME THREAD AND THE OFFICERS FAMILY WAS THREATENED


This wasn't a "F-- the pigs" comment, it was a threat of murder. This was no longer a free speech issue, what is wrong with you people?

he went way over the line.



posted on Jun, 8 2009 @ 10:58 AM
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Just assume that everything you do on the internet is monitored by a third party because it is. Every time you post something you are leaving evidence of your personality that can be used against you depending on what you post. I can't believe he even posted that online musta not been to tech savvy eh?

I left infowars forums a while ago because i knew it was just a Honeypot. this place isn't to much different. be careful what you post and how you post it. should be common sense.



posted on Jun, 8 2009 @ 10:59 AM
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That's pretty much what I figured. I assumed that they would have to contact his ISP and trace his IP address somehow. Maybe not.

Pretty shady tactics if you ask me. Is that even legal? I wonder if the police used some clause in the Patriot Act to obtain this information?

Edit: nevermind

[edit on 8-6-2009 by kommunist]



posted on Jun, 8 2009 @ 11:07 AM
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He is from Roanoke so it wouldn't surprise me if he just disappeared one day, became a cannibal, and showed up on the front lawn of the White House on a sunny day in June. Laws are just pieces of paper after all, right?



posted on Jun, 8 2009 @ 11:08 AM
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Originally posted by Bringer
Just assume that everything you do on the internet is monitored by a third party because it is. Every time you post something you are leaving evidence of your personality that can be used against you depending on what you post. I can't believe he even posted that online musta not been to tech savvy eh?

I left infowars forums a while ago because i knew it was just a Honeypot. this place isn't to much different. be careful what you post and how you post it. should be common sense.



You do NOT need to be careful of what you post.

Please people, get a grip, this wasn't someone bitching about chemtrails or of an inside job on 9/11 this moron was threatening murder of a police officer and his family.

again...this moron was threatening murder of a police officer and his family.



More likely it was reported by someone who:

1. Knew the officers, or police department involved.
2. Someone with some modicum of decency who stopped being paranoid for a second and realized this was serious business.

Please... RTFA, freedom of speech does not include making threats of murder.

Sometimes I think you guys skip key words that do not fit into personal agendas.



NOTE: ATS would NOT allow this type of posting...
That infowars does, tells us something about them.



posted on Jun, 8 2009 @ 11:14 AM
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This incident just goes to show that any opinion given,should be given in third person form. "Someone should do something about that" It is a sad fact that we have to disguise our speech to retain our freedom of speech.



posted on Jun, 8 2009 @ 11:34 AM
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Originally posted by daddyroo45
This incident just goes to show that any opinion given,should be given in third person form. "Someone should do something about that" It is a sad fact that we have to disguise our speech to retain our freedom of speech.


Sorry, but you are wrong here. Freedom of speech stops with posting of an officers address and threatening his/her life. I can not and will not support threatening any ones life. This guy will get what he deserves. Making death threats and posting their addresses is NOT free speech. It's stupidity!



posted on Jun, 8 2009 @ 11:37 AM
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Originally posted by daddyroo45
This incident just goes to show that any opinion given,should be given in third person form. "Someone should do something about that" It is a sad fact that we have to disguise our speech to retain our freedom of speech.



*SIGH*

No,.. what is sad is that someone would have these thoughts to begin with. If someone feels the need to disguise their thoughts of murder, then they need to see a specialist instead of posting on a website..

This guy did not voice an "opinion".
An OPINION is not "I am going to murder this police officer and his family", that is a threat.

Opinions are protected, threats are not.

You think that it is ok to announce a threat of murder as long as it is in the third person?

Like what "Someone should murder this pig and his family?"
That's ok to you?



posted on Jun, 8 2009 @ 11:47 AM
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Originally posted by gormly

Please... RTFA, freedom of speech does not include making threats of murder.

Sometimes I think you guys skip key words that do not fit into personal agendas.

NOTE: ATS would NOT allow this type of posting...
That infowars does, tells us something about them.


Here, here.
Most people don't even bother to read the articles linked so they wouldn't know the real story.

[edit on 8/6/2009 by Iamonlyhuman]



posted on Jun, 8 2009 @ 11:48 AM
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Originally posted by daddyroo45
This incident just goes to show that any opinion given,should be given in third person form. "Someone should do something about that" It is a sad fact that we have to disguise our speech to retain our freedom of speech.


No, just avoid threats of murder.



posted on Jun, 8 2009 @ 12:06 PM
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Well let's arrest Hillary Clinton then...



Clinton Threatens to Attack Iran ‘The Way That We Did’ Iraq

Source
JanusFIN's thread

I think your IP address is just as valuable as your fingerprint or DNA; PROTECT IT AT ALL COSTS.

The guy should have taken a long walk and a few deep breathes before ranting the way he did.

If everyone takes the written word as gospel and intent then we're all f#'ed. I'm going to the moon to kill aliens - does that make me complicit?



posted on Jun, 8 2009 @ 12:10 PM
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NOTE: ATS would NOT allow this type of posting... That infowars does, tells us something about them.


Well I'd much prefer to post on infowars because i can say what i bloody well want!!!! However, i choose ATS because of the hive of brilliant minds on here, so accept the censorship restrictions with profanity and content.



posted on Jun, 8 2009 @ 12:14 PM
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He threatened to murder someone and then an actual living adress is posted in the thread? That's unacceptable, and if Infowars.com doesn't have the decency to act upon it then the next (if not 1st) logical step is to inform the police.

Freedom of speech has exceptions too, and anyone as stupid as this guy deserves to be educated by police on where the lines are drawn.

What if I posted someone's ID info, as well as credit card info, social security number and internet banking log-in info?

This could truly hurt someone beyond physical pain, and so is logically not protected under the freedom of speech umbrella, same thing for death threats.

The adress has been posted and the wife and kids may very well be terrified so a lot of damage has been done.



posted on Jun, 8 2009 @ 12:18 PM
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as much as i dislike most cops and THIER crimes that go unchecked.thier corruption the things most of them get away w/.
thier attitudes. i absolutly have to agree w/ you ont this one. who was this
guy? maybe a defense would be his first day outta the hills and on the
net? a mulligan of sorts.lol



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