Shame For Britain As BNP Win European Parliament Seats

Originally posted by Liamoville
We're sick of being told we cannot wear England shirts, when its the world cup, because it may offend other nationalities.

We're sick of being told St Georges Day is racist.

We're sick of being hearing about war veterans getting appalling accomodation and then some immigrant who plans on sitting on the doll gets some lovely place.

We're sick of this govermnent allowing islamic extremists to sit in this country, bad mouth everythng about it and encourage muslims to kill our civilians.

We're sick of this government favouring immigrants over our own citizens.

That's the attraction of the BNP. Just to point out by the way i didn't vote for te BNP.

And that's the immigrants fault is it?

Why don't you start blaming the people actually responsible. OUR politicians, mostly white and British.

They're the one's who have created this nanny state of ours. Obviously most of the people who voted BNP are the one's too blind to see this.

Originally posted by Muckster
They fought the invading Romans.

Do you know why??? Because they had an Army of highly trained soldiers who were taking over through use of force.

Are you comparing a polish plumber with a Roman Legion?
???

I'm afraid you've missed my point Muckster. Whether by immediate force or not, Britain is being re-colonised. Had the Romans been told that upon arrival in Britain they'd face no threat from the Celts at all (in fact, that the Celts were forbidden by law to defend their land), don't you think they'd have probably left the weapons at home too?

Colonisation (and fascism) 2009 is covert, not overt. That's where almost all of the confusion over our current state of affairs lies. Birthrates - based on the government's own statistics - state that Britain will be majority Muslim in around two to three generations, at current trends. This is an invasion, it's just not quite as glamorous as the invasions depicted in historical books and films. I've met a number of young Muslims who have proclaimed outwardly that they wish to see Britain Islamicised. It is NOT mere paranoia.

Originally posted by woodwardjnr
A proud day was when we beat fascism in 1945. Putting facists into Europe in 2009 is a sad day, confirming to me most British people are stupid.

Well that's a smart comment. I suggest you research fascism. For example, the EU dictatorship has far, far more in common with the Nazi party than the BNP do. Furthermore, Labour has demonstrated textbook fascist inclinations over the last decade (surveillance, ID cards, political correctness, illegal wars - extremely Orwellian). The BNP are opposed to all of these things. Having an ethnic understanding of Britishness does not make one a fascist.

Originally posted by mr-lizard
And that's the immigrants fault is it?

Why don't you start blaming the people actually responsible. OUR politicians, mostly white and British.

They're the one's who have created this nanny state of ours. Obviously most of the people who voted BNP are the one's too blind to see this.

Actually, no Mr Lizard. I wholly agree with you and do not blame the immigrants themselves. I voted BNP because I want this Liblabcon monster replaced by something honourable. In fact, this is precisely why people voted BNP... rather than taking to the streets and burning mosques. Hardly anyone blames the immigrants. We blame the politicians who've run this country into the ground.

The BNP's party political broadcast clearly announced:

"Let's get one thing straight. We don't blame the immigrants..."

There are alreayd threads on this so why is this one 10 pages long? *sighs*

It's sad the BNP has gotten seats, some people seemed to vote out of protest, to "show" the other parties and that just confuses me. Spoiling your vote is meant to be a protest and shows your annoyance with the system in a far better way.

Originally posted by mr-lizard


And that's the immigrants fault is it?

Why don't you start blaming the people actually responsible. OUR politicians, mostly white and British.

They're the one's who have created this nanny state of ours. Obviously most of the people who voted BNP are the one's too blind to see this.

OUR politicians, mostly white and British let all the immigrants in when thay are mostly unskilled i have no prob with sensible plans for skilled workers but we have enough unskilled of our own and to mix islamic people in such large numbers is insane

so no its not there fault but i don`t play the blame game and don`t care whos fault it is i just want it fixed, because thay are a problem in those numbers its undeniable to any one who lives near islamic centers such as bradford or oldham

I think I know why some people voted BNP, and not just out of prejudicial views.

The fact is, they were able to take advantage of the sentiment shared by a lot of the population towards mainstream MPs and the expenses fiasco. It's with this sort of scenario that people will be feeling very reactionary and extremely opposed to the main three parties. What the BNP and UKIP were able to do was to feed off of that sentiment through convincing the easily swayed elements of the population that they are the solution to the expenses scenario. All they had to do was to say 'look at us, WE'VE never claimed for what we shouldn't have', all the while using this as a smokescreen to hide their previous racialist form from those who know relatively little about what they really stand for.

It show how dangerous ignorance really is. The bottom line is that a large amount of real sheeple were taken in by the rhetoric against fairly centrist politics and taken in by rantings from extremist fringe parties, all because they were so blinded with anger from the expenses row and weren't able or willing to think straight and make a sensible vote.

Now, whilst I don't by any stretch of imagination condone the fact that MPs were claiming expenses beyond what was set out in the rules, I was however able to think objectively about who I was prepared to vote for, based in the policy set forward by all parties, and make an objective choice on that basis.
I'd much rather take that approach than be purely subjective about it and go in half-cocked and make a very rash decision which was based purely on rage and passion.

Originally posted by mr-lizard
And that's the immigrants fault is it?

Why don't you start blaming the people actually responsible. OUR politicians, mostly white and British.

This whole thread is about people voting for the BNP. Therefore people are blaming the politicians and government for the way this countries run by voting for another party.

When did i ever blame it on the immigrants?

Originally posted by Maya00a

How can it be OK for you to say you will 'Up with this we will not put any more' but think other EU countries should still approve us 'foreigners' for citizenship. It can't be one rule for Brits, wherever they want to live, and one rule for other EU citizens.

I just hope you're right and my family would be able to easily take Spanish citizenship and stay here. I already have Irish citizenship as well as British (my grandfather married an English woman). My daughter also has Irish and British citizenship plus American because her father is American (they don't recognise her dual nationality but she has a birth certificate from the US Embassy - she was born in Britain). So I'm citizen of 2 countries, my daughter of 3 - so becoming citizen of another country won't be a problem, if we're allowed. I already consider myself a citizen of the world and I've lived in many countries. Just settled here in Spain whilst my children grow.

If 1000's of expats are forced to return to Britain then it will probably cost a whole lot more than the "£280,000,000 Per Week for the 'priviledge' of belonging to the Brussels' Gravy Train." I just hope that someone back there in the UK has thought all that through cause otherwise it could open an even bigger can o worms!

You are fortunate in having multiple nationality, which many people would like to have. As with many things in life, we all have choices, and those people who choose to become resident of another country, are no longer residents of their country of which they are nationals. If those people choose to move to another country and invest in life there, then the country of residence changes to that country.

It isn't up to the taxpaying residents of Britain to pay for expatriot British Nationals to return to the UK with full National Insurance and other benefits. It is up to the individual where they live, and before they leave their country of birth, or previous country of residence, they should take the appropriate advice as to the merits and demerits of such a move.

As, when, and if, the EU does break up, then the nation states will have to establish some treaties to deal with expatriots living in former EU states, but whether there will ever be a financial package made available to resettle them in their country of birth is questionable at best.

Yes the BNP pay lip service to what bothers the electorate i.e. immigration pc and jobs. Having concerns about these things is no excuse to vote for the BNP, immigration and leaving the EU are high on UKIPs agenda, bit of course they are not racists which will not suit the BNPs supporters agenda.
There is no freedom under facism or any extremist political party.

This is an interesting article by Ian Cobain journalist for the Guardian who went undercover as the central London organiser for the BNP

www.guardian.co.uk...

Us Brits are like most other countries a mongrel race we bred with the Romans, Vikings and Normans etc.

The Romans brought the first Black people to Britain; an African division of the Roman army was stationed at Hadrian’s Wall in the 3rd century. The Normans invaded in 1066, adding French culture to Anglo-Saxon and Celtic life.

and of course they also bred with us.

source
ukinusa.fco.gov.uk...

Edited to say Norway and Switzerland although not members of the EU still trade, have free healthcare and movement of the workforce.


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Originally posted by LoneGunMan

Here in the USA the majority of our youth thinks because of MSM is cool to speak thug, act thug and worship thugness. Let this trend continue for a few more generations and we will end up like the movie Idiocracy.

Hehe it's funny I was just thinking about Idiocracy reading this! (especially the whole "go away, baitin'" scene, hah!). Anyway what I find more worrying is the fact that all these people coming out of the woodwork to claim they're in support of English heritage can barely string a sentence together in their language of choice.

I think I'll go back to the UFO forum where they might be strange, but at least they can manage something that even resembles text-speak!

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Good post! It's good to be a mongrel, and I'm proud! Interbreeding makes us genetically stronger, the greater the mix, the less the chance of contracting diseases. It's why I reckon if Hitler's eugenics programme had succeeded, they would all have been ill a lot of the time, or at least dosed up to the eyeballs.

As for that African legion up on Hadrian's wall, that must have been a real shock, from warm sunny Africa, to the cold wet hills of nothern England. Ouch. Those guys had some balls, no mistake.

Racialists like the BNP have NO RIGHT to spread such lies and ignorance among the voters. Trouble is, a lot of people just lap it up...

Originally posted by xsagex
The BNP gaining seats is a proud day for Britain.

The concerted effort of the mainstream media, all political parties and even church groups could not stop us.

Agreed indeed. If only America had a viable Nationalist 3rd party. I am afraid over half of America is now in firm control of an ever progressive Anti-European, self hating, Stalinist elites. America is a prime example of how in time the "Melting Pot" theory is an utter failure if various ethnic groups refuse to assimilate. Quite the opposite is occurring now. Instead of mom and apple pie it's P'Diddy and Grand Theft Auto (the game and real life).

Originally posted by dizzylizzy
Yes the BNP pay lip service to what bothers the electorate i.e. immigration pc and jobs. Having concerns about these things is no excuse to vote for the BNP, immigration and leaving the EU are high on UKIPs agenda, bit of course they are not racists which will not suit the BNPs supporters agenda.
There is no freedom under facism or any extremist political party.

utter rubbish, UKIP is a joke made by the Tory's to act as a PC far right party to split the BNP vote thay have put incompetent people in UKIP so if it gets in it will fail and dishearten the far right

The BNP are not RACIST how many times dose this need saying?
don`t believe me? try and join if you are of a different race, see if thay tell you no
you would be welcomed

Originally posted by Liamoville
This whole thread is about people voting for the BNP. Therefore people are blaming the politicians and government for the way this countries run by voting for another party.

When did i ever blame it on the immigrants?

You must have a guilty conscience or something, i never aimed anything at YOU at all.

I can see BOTH sides of the arguement, i can see why people are voting BNP and i can also study the background of the BNP and realise that a lot of their members are racist. Also a lot aren't racist.

I can also see why people would dislike the BNP.

Originally posted by mr-lizard

Originally posted by Liamoville

I can also see why people would dislike the BNP.

Hmm well just imagine if they came into power and started to round up all non-whites and muslims shipping them back to where ever they came from.

God forbid if a massacre like bosnia or chechnya gets carried out by the likes of BNP, than what would be the overall image of UK?

Originally posted by merkava

Hmm well just imagine if they came into power and started to round up all non-whites and muslims shipping them back to where ever they came from.

God forbid if a massacre like bosnia or chechnya gets carried out by the likes of BNP, than what would be the overall image of UK?

do you really think the military would do this. stop scare mongering

its sad to see but not unexpected, yorkshire and humber is where i live(south humberside) and there is a hell of a lot a folks who say they are gonna vote bnp i just thought it would never happen.

gotta understand though that these regions are overun with immigrants and this imo and from conversations ive had is why people are going bnp purely because of migrants and job losses/fear of losing jobs its been getting worse for years here but all we hear is ''migrants are essntial for the economy'' now if the bnp are the only ones willing to address this issue racist or not people are gonna turn to them as we have seen happen.

You have to laugh when you hear main stream politicians talking about the BNP and how awful they are... I mean just look at how awful the main stream politicians are. You really couldn't get a worse bunch of self serving crooks and lying thieves.

Pot calling kettle black (oops are you allowed to say that these days )

Frankly anybody would be better than what we have.

As far as BNP are concerned a lot of what they say makes sense and if it makes the big parties rethink then they have done a good job.

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As many people state, part of the problem is the merger of the two big parties on many issues, all attempting to take a bland middle ground that will apply to as many people as possible.

In the past opposition to excessive immigration was part of the Conservative platform. They managed to have a policy on this, which, while stern, was not explicitly racist. However, in their efforts to appeal to middle ground and liberal voters, they have effectively dropped this.

Because of this blandness of the major parties, people who feel very strongly on certain issues end up feeling like they have to vote for a fringe party instead, and in turn they end up implicitly endorsing the rest of that platform, even if they don't really agree with the very harsh tones of a party such as the BNP.

If the major parties got back to a situation where they actually stood for something, I think you would see these kind of problems dry up for the most part. Parties like the BNP would be back to just a very tiny percentage of the genuinely racist/supremecist, and therefore back to being far fringe like they deserve.

Hmmmm,protest votes against expenses claims,loss of faith in main stream parties,anger at an unelected pm,recession,banking crisis,etc...
Hows about this one;
Theres a hellava lot of british people who are racist thru and thru???
Not a nice feeling isit,but thats the truth.You see it every where,paki this,polish that,raki scumbags,blame the mussies,
I live and work in a fairly typical brit town,and believe me,alot of people voted for a basically racist political party because they are basically racist.
No need to dress it up in any thing else.