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reply posted on 9-6-2009 @ 01:32 PM by Tallsorts

Originally posted by lagenese
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At one point in your experience, you will realize that any entity, from any level of the astral plane, are dominating mankind in one way or another. Death makes no sense. It's part of the spiritual experience. In my experience, i have learned that the death and life cycle (living & dying) is part of the domination. Even those entities in the higher spheres of the astral plane are unaware of the true nature of the cosmic plan for evolution.

I respect your point of view. All i'm saying and writting is from personal experience. I cannot transpose my experiences to others for it would become a philosophy. All i'm doing is sharing and exchanging point of views and experiences.

In one sense you are perfectly correct; duality makes no sense. That is having your spirit/soul/mind complex in one dimension and a series of different bodies in different lifetimes in another dimension. That has been going on for a very long time and everyone in the spirit world, in Astral and other planes, are under the control of dark entities to a greater or lesser extent. When I found this out, I asked my principal guides why they were in this situation, and they said that they didn't know how to get out of it

It should be said that Prime Creator had never experienced darkness and war, and so didn't know how to deal with the group of infected Universes involved in the downfall. It has taken by our measurement of time, over a million years for an effective series of remedies to be implemented, but it is taking time to carry out. Even so there are some very good, kind and loving people on the higher planes of the spirit world, and they are not all bad.

If you are interested in reading some more on this subject there is a free on-line book on the subject: THE RETURN OF LIGHT - Revelations from The Creator God Horus, with Elora Gabriel and Karen Kirschbaum.

www.thenewearth.org...

By decree of the Prime Creator, those ensouled beings on Earth who are harvestable, are to carry on living on Earth as the planet ascends through to the fifth dimension, where they will in due course have their bodies and spirit/mind/soul complex reunited. Thus they will come within the confines of the Law of One, and the dark controllers will be removed.

Those who are not harvesable, will during the time of stasis (suspended animation) when the magnetic pole reversal happens, be transported to other 3rd dimensional planets to continue their lives in Duality in the same way as at present, but with the dark controling cabal removed.

reply posted on 9-6-2009 @ 11:59 PM by lagenese

Originally posted by Tallsorts

Even so there are some very good, kind and loving people on the higher planes of the spirit world, and they are not all bad.

I did not say they were all bad, i just said i don't trust any entity. Those spirits in the high spheres of the astral plane have a job to do, even though they are not sure of what is really going on. Their job is important for humans who are experiencing spirituallity.

When the awareness factor kicks in closely followed by the rise of consciousness, we start to see clearly what the game is all about.

reply posted on 10-6-2009 @ 05:53 AM by Tallsorts

Originally posted by lagenese

I did not say they were all bad, i just said i don't trust any entity. Those spirits in the high spheres of the astral plane have a job to do, even though they are not sure of what is really going on. Their job is important for humans who are experiencing spirituallity.

When the awareness factor kicks in closely followed by the rise of consciousness, we start to see clearly what the game is all about.

I don't disagree with you, but the sad thing is that such a large proportion of the human population on Urantia (Earth) don't even get remotely near to understanding that there is a game, never mind what it is about.

Unless the individual brought the memory of the game from another planet, or previous incarnation here, so many of them get very wrapped up in the sheer material nature of living in our 3rd Dimensional world; with or without a religious belief, and don't realise they are in a very cleverly constructed prison.

The next phase is breaking out of prison and taking as many people as I can with me. I'm glad to have exchanged views with you as it has been a very positive experience.

reply posted on 10-6-2009 @ 09:08 AM by Toughiv

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My god that is crock. Whales and Dolphins holding onto light for our world? How does that work? Light in terms of humans would be love and such like actions/intentions etc. How do whales help us accomplish that?

This world is just like every other within the Universe. It is the make-up of the whole Universe that has fallen. This is the fallen world. We are hear to grow through experience, learn wisdom through our choices Godd & Bad. We CHOSE to bite the apple so to speak, and then we "knew we were naked".

Everything is 50 - 50 so that we have free will. If we knew God existed we wouldnt be able to think that he doesnt...lack of choice.

reply posted on 11-6-2009 @ 06:13 AM by lowki

I've been talking to spirit guides and other spiritual entities for a few years now.

At first due to the vibrations of the media as having many concepts of sex and violence I was quantum bound to those vibrations and was bound to three such entities. Two female sex spirits, and a violent male spirit. Though I had used different names for them Buddha called the first two some princesses, and the violent one a king named mara.

The way to move to higher vibration can be achieved through metta style meditation, and being careful that you view happy, peacefull and loving messages, on the internet, television and people.

metta meditation is an extension of mantra meditation where you mentally repeat a phrase:
"happy, peace love"
or "peace, love, harmony"
or "sweet, calm, flow"
or "interesting, wonderful"
or "brook, birds, nature"

once you become proficient can go with compassion meditation, where you raise the vibrations of the things around you, the people, and those far, and those here.

send happy love to the walls of your home and they will reflect it, same for plants, animals, people etcetera.
solid things like granite rocks are the most stable, so can resonate with the energies you imbue into them for a long time.

really anything you find pleasant and would like to quantum bind to.
lowki like reading channeling of Arcturians and other benevolent texts to raise lowki's vibrations.

reply posted on 11-6-2009 @ 06:49 AM by tobiascore

There's alot of belief and subjective interpitation in this thread. That's cool on a personal level, but to state it as objective fact for others, is incorrect.

The "spirit world", or "non-physical", or whatever you call it, is a training ground for growth. That's it. When you enter it, you can either use it for your own growth, or fear it, thus closing it off to your expeirence.

Sleep paralsys is a natural thing, it's not an attack. Again, you can use it, or you can toss it away by fear.

In the immediate meditative state, you have contact with spirit guides. BUT your interpritation of them, is limited by your human experience. You are not experincing them in their true form, just as you dont expeirence any human in their true form. Your human nature is to judge, to interprit into a human form of understanding. There's alotta symbology involved. Any "evil" or "good", is just a metaphor at this level.

Back to reality, be it here or the spirit world, it is subjective. You MUST expeirence it for yourself, and not rely on 2nd hand information. The ONLY harm that can come to you, is your own self-created belief systems.

Beliefs systems limit your reality. Be open, get out there and ask questions. Don't assume, don't expect, don't believe.

[edit on 11-6-2009 by tobiascore]

reply posted on 11-6-2009 @ 08:25 AM by Toughiv

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May I ask how you would "use" sleep paralysis? Ive read up on SP and scientifically all it is, is your brain waking up from REM but your body is still paralysed as a natural thing to stop you acting out your dreams. Why then do I have a sense of dread and malicious intent? Nobody told me to feel/think this, therefore there was no conditioning/belief system already in place. Unless you would argue that spirituality in mainstream movies etc have always been portrayed as a dangerous thing etc.

I would really love to know how I can futher my experience

Thanks

Brad.

reply posted on 11-6-2009 @ 01:41 PM by LordKnox

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The two entities I encountered were extremely peaceful and at ease. I'm not gonna lie, I had an improper thought about the female when I first saw her, but she quickly made it clear this wasn't something that mattered where we were. It was such a peaceful thing, and I felt like I was gonna burst with the positive feelings I was having being with both of these entities. I had been meditating for a few hours before I stopped, it was rather weird coming back, especially being the first time I had done such a thing. Not sure if it is normal to feel this way, seems like usually one should encounter things with a vibration similar to this world in the begining?

As a final thought to this, how does one imbue another object exactly? Is it likely basically trying to send my energy towards the object, and leave it there?

reply posted on 11-6-2009 @ 01:46 PM by LordKnox

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I agree with what you have to say about all of this, I feel that the most I can learn is from my own experience, especially seeing how there are so many ideas of what everything is all about on this subject. Although, I still find it very helpful to hear what other people think, as it does kind of help guide someone such as myself along the way to my own discoveries.

reply posted on 13-6-2009 @ 06:22 AM by Toughiv

When it comes to meditation. For example, chakra meditation. Is this not another form of religion? I say this because, if somebody was to not tell me about the different chakras, would I have found them myself? I think not...

Also, when it comes to those of you going into the spirit world, how exactly are you doing this through meditation? Whenever I meditate my mind stills, I think clearly and feel less external stimulus like wind, sound, weight of my body etc. Apart from that, not much else?

Cheers,

Brad

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