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Speaking with Spirit Guide through meditation.

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posted on Jun, 7 2009 @ 10:52 PM
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Not sure if I'm exactly putting this in the correct forum, but I didn't see any other spot that fit, so here it goes.


A couple months ago I first attempted meditation, and I decided to do a guided meditation with a recording. I wasn't able to get much of any results with the audio playing but it helped me relax and get an idea of what to do. So with the audio off, I was able to go to a place in my meditation that I could certainly feel. I was still connected to my body and aware of it in the room, but my spirit was certainly in another place. The first spirit guide was a man, I can't recall his name, nor can I recall his advice, unfortunately I did not write down what happened.

The second spirit guide was a woman, and I can't recall her name, but we did talk for awhile. I felt extremely connected to her on romantic level, something she kept telling me not to do. she told me to go find someone where I am now, that I couldn't be with her where I was. I respected this, she gave me some advice, and I left.

I felt very connected with both guides, like I knew them, the first one almost seemed like a different version of myself I suppose one could say. The second I think was my soul mate, as I felt connected to her on a slightly different level than the other one.

Oddly, as I was leaving my meeting with the second spirit guide, I felt a presence behind me, something dangerous. I turned and some kind of dark shadow ran into the woods of this spirit world, and though I couldn't see it, I knew it was waiting there. I also felt that it was planning to attack me. Whatever it was, it was dangerous, and I think it didn't want me to see my spirit guides again.

A couple weeks later I attempted the same meditation, but as soon as I was entering what I guess is the spirit realm, I felt a presence and could almost see it's foot come down to my throat and step on me. When I came back to my body I felt as someone had been choking me and it took me awhile to catch my breathe.

Well, after all of this, I haven't been able to meditate since. I would like to, but I either become scared that I don't know what I'm doing, and am allowing something evil in, or I just can't concentrate/relax. This had been my first and second night of meditation, so I'm really sure I need more control over certain aspects.

If anyone has some information on how to help, or maybe has a similar experience that they would like to share that would be great.

Thanks to all!!




posted on Jun, 7 2009 @ 11:14 PM
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What I have done in the past is to imagine a bridge over a small stream seperating this realm and the spirit. Before entering your spirit realm, walk across the bridge and stand there for a second. Imagine all your doubts, fears, negativity, etc. becomming a ball/bubble in front of you and then it drops into the water below and floats away.

Then I will imagine a white/golden light encompasing me and protecting me from evil/negative things. Then enter the realm.

Just a suggestion. Hope it helps.



posted on Jun, 7 2009 @ 11:20 PM
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Thank you very much for the idea. I already have a feeling this will help greatly, and will try it when I try to meditate next.



posted on Jun, 7 2009 @ 11:24 PM
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Personally, this stuff scares the # out of me. Maybe I'm a coward, maybe because I don't know much about it.
Had some scary stuff happen a looong time ago.
Since then I've steered clear of any of that.
Just be careful when you do that.
Good luck.



posted on Jun, 7 2009 @ 11:38 PM
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COuld you describe the process of your guided meditation??

They way i avoid negative influences during my meditation is i purge them.

A technique which i use was suggested by edgar cayce while he was under trance.

Basically i lay there and picture and feel all the things that bind me to the physical world leaving my body from around the area of my heart chakra. Also all negativity and desires.

for example ill picture the memory of my family and loved ones leaving me, then ill picture material wants and attachments leaving me.

After that i keep them close levitating above where im laying. Then i begin the trance state.

Ive always done this and have never come in contact with any sort of negative forces.



posted on Jun, 7 2009 @ 11:50 PM
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My meditation was relatively simple. I imagined taking my energy and centring it near a chakra, I don't recall the name, but it is near my belly button or stomach area. I went to a "safe place" Then left this safe place to go to a forest, walked down a path, where I drink from a stream to cleanses me, then I continue down to a field of mine where I can meet my Spirit Guides.

Before this part of the meditation I do practice breathing and separate from everything in this world, everything material, and begin to focus my energy then. I'm not sure what method this is, but I do feel I may have been slightly reckless as clearly something went wrong.

Thank you for the advice, I'll be trying this method as well. I have a lot to learn in the way of meditating.



posted on Jun, 7 2009 @ 11:57 PM
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Ah, well i used to focus on my Solar Plexus to channel energy, however i have found the heart chakra to be far better. It seems to resonate harder than the rest especially when traveling into other realms.

perhaps trying to center your energy there will defend you better.

Also if relaxation is a problem, i would suggest ingesting some Vitamin C. Apparently the pineal love vitamin c.



posted on Jun, 8 2009 @ 12:01 AM
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Yes, when I first started this I wanted to focus my energy into my heart first, but went with the guide any way. Maybe I should have listened to my instincts from the start.

I hadn't heard the vitamin c thing before. Very intriguing, I'll have to see how that works. Anything to help me relax would be great.



posted on Jun, 8 2009 @ 11:28 AM
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I’ve been in contact with my two principal spirit guides since the mid 1970’s, and as these people are responsible for overseeing my safety, they have never let me down. I think that each time you meditate, you should ask your guides, whether they are known to you or not, to give you protection from all harmful entities. You should also picture yourself safely protected inside a clear Perspex dome, which will repel all boarders.

No doubt you have a computer, so when you establish contact with your guides, you can type out their messages and save them to disc for future reference. This is the way that most channelers write their material from Spirit Guides, Extra Terrestrials from the Galactic Federation of Light, and the Spiritual Hierarchy.

There are three very safe meditations available, from entry level up to advanced level, and you may want to take a look at the source.

The link below is to a free to read book about the Return to Light of Planet Earth and if you scroll down towards the bottom of this long file, you will find the following heading:

THE THREE MEDITATIONS OF HERU

“At the time that Heru stated his intention to bring his Teachings to Earth once more, he gave us the Three Meditations. These techniques are so simple that, at first, I did not recognize their enormous value. There are so many such exercises in our world that a few more could not make much difference - or so I thought. When I actually began to practice the techniques that Heru had brought to us, I was astonished at their power and depth.

Heru has stated that these Three Meditations are safe, even for children, and for people with mental or emotional instabilities. He told us that the first two Meditations, in particular, are excellent for anyone who is unstable.”

Part 1-THE FIRST MEDITATION: THE BREATH of HERU
Part 2 - THE SECOND MEDITATION: The Axiatonal Activation
Part 3 - The THIRD MEDITATION: The Portal of Creation

THE RETURN OF LIGHT Revelations from The Creator God Horus With Elora Gabriel and Karen Kirschbaum

www.thenewearth.org...



[edit on 8/6/2009 by Tallsorts]



posted on Jun, 8 2009 @ 05:32 PM
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Hi,

Ive never meditated myself. However, Ive had many many nights of sleep paralysis. Those of you that dont know what this is / havent experienced it. It is when you wake up from dreaming suddenly, you cannot move, speak or anything.

Right, when it happens to me I feel a very great sense of dread. Almost like a malicious entity is causing it, almost like a personal attack on my soul. At first I used to struggle, fight all in vain, scared. I quickly realised, these entities cannot actually harm me, they only have power over me because I fear them, and i fear them because they are unknown to me.

Knowing that I am an immortal being myself, undestroyable by them, I now laugh whenever I have a incident of sleep paralysis. Its almost like, haha you really are trying hard to scare me arent you? Please stop wasting your time you silly little malicious being, now go away, I was sleeping. Run along now. Bye bye.

Thats just my $2c , i hope it helps. Know that you are the child of a higher being, who loves you eternally. You cannot be harmed, you give them power by thinking they have power over you. Like you are letting your guard down. Seriously, accept it for what it is, know you are immortal, a creation of love. Be free.

Brad



posted on Jun, 8 2009 @ 11:54 PM
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wow, thanks everyone for your input on this. I certainly have a lot to work on. As for the sleep paralysis, I do recall vaguely feeling something similar when I was young, under 5 years old. My memory of actually waking and being paralysed like this is rather sketchy, I mostly remember nightmares from that time, but I still know what you mean.

Actually, I was having nightmares that I'm sure were being caused by some sort of evil entity. I didn't actually talk to anyone about it at the time, so I was very scared to sleep at the time. Basically, the recurring dreams were of something trying to crush me, make me scared, and just over all terrifying at that age. Eventually though I decided that they were my dreams, and I wasn't going to be scared any more, so when I was awake I would envision being courageous, and actually being stronger than this beast. Eventually this worked, and the dreams did not come back after that. I still had nightmares like any child of course, but the evil presence was gone. Maybe if you wanted the paralysis to stop all together you could go about a similar method? I was a child at the time, so the theory is rather simple, not sure if it would actually work. Just throwing it out there.

Finally, yes, I believe as well that we are indestructible beings, but i've only recently begun to know this, so I'm having to break down a lot of conditioning I learned from my life.

Thanks again to everyone.



posted on Jun, 9 2009 @ 12:07 AM
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I have a very different point of view on this. Meditation is good, as long as there's no connection to the spirit world. Here's why : We cannot trust entities from that world (world of the dead), because they are not allowed to love us. Sure, there are guides to help us live our "programmed" life. We all have an astrological program, all souls that reincarnate have to follow this program.

We also need to understand that we cannot allow manipulation from this world, because we do not need any help from them. There is no intelligence (light) in that world. All it is is memory. All entities from that plane are memories. The goal of this world is to bring back as much souls as possible on their side, to keep their monopoly on mankind.

We must set ourselves free from this domination, and only awareness and consciousness will set mankind free from any kind of manipulation and domination.



posted on Jun, 9 2009 @ 06:32 AM
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And how do you know that our dead loved ones cant love us once they pass on? Connecting to hell, I can see that as being bad, but not to our loved ones. Our passed away family and friends could be our guardian angels. I never post, in a, "I know" type manner, so where do you get this knowledge?



posted on Jun, 9 2009 @ 07:28 AM
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I get this knowledge from experience, but i never ask anyone to believe in what i say. We can only know with certainty if we experiment something.
I respect your point of view. The purpose of this forum is to exchange ideas and knowledge.

Peace



posted on Jun, 9 2009 @ 08:39 AM
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Originally posted by lagenese
reply to post by LordKnox
 
I have a very different point of view on this. Meditation is good, as long as there's no connection to the spirit world. Here's why : We cannot trust entities from that world (world of the dead), because they are not allowed to love us. Sure, there are guides to help us live our "programmed" life. We all have an astrological program, all souls that reincarnate have to follow this program.


The people who live in the Spirit world aren't 'dead' at all. They are very much alive, but because their atomic structure is less dense than ours, we can't normally see them. What we term 'death', is only the shedding of a body with no further use, and every ensouled being continues to exist after this process.

We are loved by a great deal of people from the Spirit World. Whilst we have agreed to a certain kind of life before this incarnation, we have a large degree of free-will, which cannot be said of all beings in Creation, many of whom would love to have free-will.


We also need to understand that we cannot allow manipulation from this world, because we do not need any help from them. There is no intelligence (light) in that world. All it is is memory. All entities from that plane are memories. The goal of this world is to bring back as much souls as possible on their side, to keep their monopoly on mankind.


There is light in both the Spirit World and our 3rd Dimensional World. Our planet is in the Universe called Nebadon, which is a fallen universe where darkness broke out like a virus infection, ages ago. Prime Creator is implementing plans to eradicate this darkness, and this is happening now. The Dolphins and Whales on Earth, who are spiritually higher than we are, have held onto the light for millennia, so that although our world was dark, it still had light in it.


We must set ourselves free from this domination, and only awareness and consciousness will set mankind free from any kind of manipulation and domination.


You are right, WE have to set OURSELVES free from domination by forces of darkness, but there is divine energy being beamed towards us, to contribute to establishing favourable conditions to help us do this.



posted on Jun, 9 2009 @ 09:13 AM
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I do not trust entities, especially from the astral plane. All they have to offer is deception. Entities from that plane connect to the human mind to feel a sense of vitallity. This is why some people think that there is a love connection, but in reality, it's the total opposite. I am, for one, at war against spirituality, for it is the reason we're suffering on this planet. Also, this manipulation and domination keeps humanity in the infernal cycle of life and death.

Edit to add: Freewill is an illusion, it's part of the great cosmic lie. Only full connection to our "light" (source) can free us.


[edit on 9-6-2009 by lagenese]



posted on Jun, 9 2009 @ 11:23 AM
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Originally posted by lagenese
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I do not trust entities, especially from the astral plane. All they have to offer is deception. Entities from that plane connect to the human mind to feel a sense of vitallity. This is why some people think that there is a love connection, but in reality, it's the total opposite. I am, for one, at war against spirituality, for it is the reason we're suffering on this planet. Also, this manipulation and domination keeps humanity in the infernal cycle of life and death.


You speak of the Astral plane, of which there are two levels, Upper and Lower, but these are the very bottom rungs of a ladder where there are more highly evolved and spiritual people, particularly on Plane 3 and above. Generally speaking, people on Plane 5 (The Graduation Plane) and above are beyond reproach, loving and utterly trustworthy, and I speak from personal experience of contact with them.

If you are only speaking of contact with people at the Astral plane level, they are not spiritually developed at all. The Lower Astral Plane, often known as 'Hell' is where you will find people who in past incarnations are Murders, Torturers, Sexual Perverts, Drug Dealers, Warmongers, Rapists and their ilk. If that's what you think of as being spiritual, you are looking in the wrong place entirely.



posted on Jun, 9 2009 @ 11:49 AM
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At one point in your experience, you will realize that any entity, from any level of the astral plane, are dominating mankind in one way or another. Death makes no sense. It's part of the spiritual experience. In my experience, i have learned that the death and life cycle (living & dying) is part of the domination. Even those entities in the higher spheres of the astral plane are unaware of the true nature of the cosmic plan for evolution.

I respect your point of view. All i'm saying and writting is from personal experience. I cannot transpose my experiences to others for it would become a philosophy. All i'm doing is sharing and exchanging point of views and experiences.



posted on Jun, 9 2009 @ 12:40 PM
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I'm sorry, I'm not sure I fully understand what you mean by "dominating". In what way are these spirits dominating us? How is the cycle of life and death part of this domination? Don't we return to the spirit world for some time after we die, then get reincarnated? Not trying to say your wrong, I just don't think I fully understand what you mean by this.



posted on Jun, 9 2009 @ 12:55 PM
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Let me start answering your questions and i'll be as objective as possible.
Thoughts that enter our mind, are not ours. They don't come from our brain. Thoughts originate from the higher mental plane (your higher self, cosmic self) as a form of light energy but before it reaches the lower mental (our mind), it is manipulated by entities of the astral plane. In other words, that light energy is colored and we perceive them as thoughts of our own.

The reason for this manipulation is for experiment purposes, and to test us on the emotional level. So, this is the role, albeit unconscious of the astral plane. The spiritual nature of the astral plane forces the soul, that has not learned the true nature of the cosmic reality of things, to come back to the astral plane, wait a while and come back to the physical realm.

Man comes from the light and will eventually go back to the light. Some highly spiritual leaders/teachers claim that there is a beautiful light in the spiritual world we call the astral plane. This light, is a false light, destined to keep mankind under it's spell.

In simple terms, spirituality kills us. Spirituality is part of the polarity of our conscience.

*Note: you can only believe in what you experiment consciously. You will draw your own conclusions when the time comes. Your cosmic counterpart will know this, and so will you.



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