The God Gene. Are many of us from the lineage of angels?, page 4
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reply posted on 8-6-2009 @ 01:17 AM by sanchoearlyjones
reply to post by muzzleflash



I can kinda see your point. I also posted in your thread. I just noticed your name is muzzleflash. That in it self can be good, or bad. All in how you view it. Maybe you shoot your gun, and wanna scare people, or critters off, but then again that same flash can mark your position in a heart beat. In the sense of scaring people off that could be bad; should those people not scare, and have guns themselves. Kinda makes you an easy target.

Now where I can agree is that everything is a from a "god". No doubt. Many studies have been done on that. However, the point at which there is no difference between good, and evil is well beyond this dimension. Here we all feel it.

I cannot speak for you, but I think Tazering for DNA has somewhat of a sinister appeal to it.


reply posted on 8-6-2009 @ 01:30 AM by helen670
Hi/

Many people would like to believe they are from the lineage of Angels, but this cannot be.

Angels were created before man was...."when the stars were created, all my angels were glorifying me and praising me" (Job 38:7).
It is the Logos(Word) of God, Who created them because,
"for by Him were all things created,
that are in heavens, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities or powers, all things were created by Him and for Him" (Colossians 1:16).



Angels are bodiless spirits.
Angels do the work of God.

God created man with Spirit and a body.
Man cannot have sexual relationships with Angels....They neither marry nor are given in marriage (Matt. 22:30)Marriage means sexual relations.




From the book of Tobiah in the Old Testament,
the Archangel Raphael reveals himself to Tobiah by saying:
"I will not hide from you the mystery,
when you were praying, you and Sarah,
I was lifting your prayers to the Holy One …
and now God sent me to heal your wounds …
I am Raphael, one of the seven angels who lift the prayers
of the saints and serve the Throne of the Holy One"
Tobiah 12:12-15
In this passage there is a description of the work of angels,
which is mainly to lift the prayers of the saints and help God,
and they are sent by God to the humans to help them.

Angels are there for the intercession of our prayers to God, just as Saints are there for our intercession to them.
They are not sent to populate the earth.

Fallen Angels are a different matter.

helen



reply posted on 8-6-2009 @ 01:40 AM by sanchoearlyjones
reply to post by helen670



short, and to the point.... What about how the Nephilim were created? What you wrote kinda skirts around that topic. Also, your putting limits on "god" can do; based off a book which was bast*rdized by Pharisees.


reply posted on 8-6-2009 @ 01:50 AM by Sundancer
reply to post by muzzleflash



Everyone has the right to an opinion. You have yours, I have mine.
I don't believe reading Carl Sagan is going to do me any good because he's been dead a long time. He can't debunk or agree with my theory.
A lot of new dicoveries have come to light since Sagan died, like for example when the Russians discoverd they could manipulate DNA with light and sound.


reply posted on 8-6-2009 @ 01:54 AM by helen670
Originally posted by sanchoearlyjones
reply to
post by helen670



short, and to the point.... What about how the Nephilim were created? What you wrote kinda skirts around that topic. Also, your putting limits on "god" can do; based off a book which was bast*rdized by Pharisees.


Hi san/

Since this is a long subject and I have not shown much interest in it,but I will point you to Genesis :1:11
Also useful God at War
and Discourse of the Resurecction~

Lastly Gateway of the Gods~St John Chrisostym(golden mouth)
Hope that helps.

helen


reply posted on 8-6-2009 @ 02:10 AM by sanchoearlyjones
reply to post by helen670



Yep, I'm a little confused at your 'arguement'. I read your link specifically, and it's not a direct bible passage, but an arguement between I'm guessing theologians....... In your link it talks about the NEPHILIM being created by angels procreating with the Daughters of Man.

So I don't understand your point. Seems kindof a "moved one" at best. You cannot deny in that the overall bible was written toward the "Israelites", and that apparently within this group there are the: Sons of Man, The Elect, and 144,000 virgins. All of which I think Sundancer is making the connections that it is through DNA lineage. These three groups might be one in the same, and these people have un be none to them, an Angelic Soul within.

I think I'm still agree with Sundancer's theory


reply posted on 8-6-2009 @ 02:13 AM by sanchoearlyjones
reply to post by GuiltyByDesign



Wow, that was really good. I have never thought of that; the fear most children have of reptiles. I have noticed the "odd one out" amongst children that just love snakes. I'd have to wonder what type of person they are.

Along those same lines, I do find it interesting how people have the same overall inherent fears........fear of the dark, fear of caves, fear of water. It's as though there is a genetic imprint.

Um, I think on pg 3 I left a couple youtube videos of reporters morphing out.


reply posted on 8-6-2009 @ 02:17 AM by GuiltyByDesign
reply to post by sanchoearlyjones



Strangely enough, I have nothing against reptiles. I ABHOR spiders, though. I wonder what that might say about some of my ancestry...

I think fear of the dark and closed spaces comes from trial and error and the fact that we cannot see in the dark, and we long to be free. I don't believe things of that nature are genetically imprinted as much as they are common to all humans.


reply posted on 8-6-2009 @ 02:22 AM by Sundancer
reply to post by Applesandoranges


Excellent links! Thank you so much. That puts a new spin on the 144,000 but still works with the DNA theory.


reply posted on 8-6-2009 @ 02:30 AM by sanchoearlyjones
reply to post by GuiltyByDesign



Yep, I don't like spiders as well; in fact I just squished a big black one.

Re: fears....Fear of the water=possible connection with the great flood, and fear of the dark, or caves= well, just look at all the oppressive things which have occured in this space, and dimension. It really is hell on Earth.

The overall message coming from the Bible is that at some point it won't be like it is.


reply posted on 8-6-2009 @ 02:31 AM by sanchoearlyjones
reply to post by Applesandoranges



That second video was awesome; it really adds to the point of this thread.



reply posted on 8-6-2009 @ 04:07 AM by muzzleflash
Originally posted by Sundancer
reply to
post by muzzleflash



Everyone has the right to an opinion. You have yours, I have mine.
I don't believe reading Carl Sagan is going to do me any good because he's been dead a long time. He can't debunk or agree with my theory.
A lot of new dicoveries have come to light since Sagan died, like for example when the Russians discoverd they could manipulate DNA with light and sound.


thats not the point

the point is to educate yourself about all views and realize we are the same at our core

that all of the universe is equal at it's most basic level


reply posted on 8-6-2009 @ 08:50 AM by InterconnecteD
Originally posted by autowrench
Originally posted by GuiltyByDesign
reply to
post by malakiem



I have absolutely no clue about numeric symbology at all, although if you mention it in this thread, my initial reaction is to equate the 11 to the 12 Tribes of Israel, the 11th named one being the tribe of Joseph, according to Genesis 49: 22.


Here is my own thought about the Twelve Tribes. They are Spirit Tribes, divided by the Zodiac, and the 12 stations of the Zodiac are the 12 tribes. I am a Sagittarius, my people are of the Sagittarius.




Hey SUndancer, Unverisal thoughts rights, well i had this one a few weeks ago when i was connecting the two... and this is the same person who had the theory i believe... this is some crazy # haha

LOVE PEACE & and the PURSUIT OF ENLIGHTENMENT
InterConnected
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