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2010 FIFA World Cup thread

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posted on Apr, 24 2010 @ 01:53 AM
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England underan Italian is interesting, he is a good coach, but its dissapointing in a way that the English haveas good as admitted they have no decent managers of their own to choose from.
I would never trust a foriegn manager , because they could always be bribed.
No Englishman would ever take money to sabotage england but an Italian well you would have to say they would be tempted espescially if Italy meet England along the way to the final itself.
Similarly I think Australia made a huge mistake sacking Farina and appointing Pim Verbeek a dutch national.
Their is something odd about claiming success within a country who has a forieign manager, Iam probably wrong, but its just what I feel.
Imagine Italy withan Englisman as their manager?
I respect the Italians for their pride, something the English sold a long time ago.




posted on Apr, 24 2010 @ 04:54 AM
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I was against Capello getting the England job.

Looking at how they have improved and the commitment he has put into the role I think I was wrong and he is the right man for the job.

Realistically which Englishman could we have appointed?

Harry Redknapp?
Howmany times has he been accused of accepting bungs and tax evasion etc, and what has he actually won?

Roy Hodgson?
Done wonders at Fulham, but again, what has he acheived at the highest level?
And maybe slightly too conservative and 'establishment' for my liking.

Then we have the likes of Sam Allardyce, Steve Bruce, Tony Pullis etc.
Don't think so.

Stuart Pearce maybe in the future and maybe some of the younger managers in a few years time.

Sorry, I think Capello is the right man at the moment and Pearce must be learning so much working along side him.

Too question Capello's integrity is a downright insult!
He is a highly moral man and to even suggest that he would take a bribe is quite insulting and distasteful.

I am convinced that England will progress to the semi-finals where they will probably meet Brazil.
Anything can happen in one game of football at that stage of a tournament and whilst I acknowledge Brazil are good, they are not brilliant and are definately beatable.

The other side of the draw could be quite difficult with a lot of the traditionally strong European teams in the mix.
Spain are obvious contenders and could easily get to the final.
Then there are the obvious countries like Germany, Italy, Holland etc.

I think Argentina will be poor; Maradonna,
, was a great player, (said through gritted teeth, I will never forgive him for CHEATING) is proving to be a complete embarrassment as a manager.

France are crap and a shadow of their former selves.

Me, my money is already on England, (yes I know it maybe just blind patriotism but I genuinely feel we just might do it this time!), but I may have a daft bet on Uruguay and maybe Holland.



posted on Apr, 24 2010 @ 07:53 AM
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I've promised I'm not going to get too emotionaly involved this time, every world cup and european cup, I build my hopes up, thinking this is the one, this time. then we get knocked out on penalties because we are a bunch of bottlers, who can't keep a hold on our emotions.



posted on Apr, 24 2010 @ 04:33 PM
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In all honesty, and I mean no offense, but that post is absolute bullplop.



posted on Apr, 25 2010 @ 01:54 AM
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Originally posted by budski
reply to post by Dr Conspire
 


In all honesty, and I mean no offense, but that post is absolute bullplop.


You sound moronic but please dont take offense Iam being honest I do not mean to offend someone so kind.



posted on Apr, 25 2010 @ 01:58 AM
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Originally posted by Freeborn
reply to post by Dr Conspire
 


I was against Capello getting the England job.

Looking at how they have improved and the commitment he has put into the role I think I was wrong and he is the right man for the job.

Realistically which Englishman could we have appointed?

Harry Redknapp?
Howmany times has he been accused of accepting bungs and tax evasion etc, and what has he actually won?

Roy Hodgson?
Done wonders at Fulham, but again, what has he acheived at the highest level?
And maybe slightly too conservative and 'establishment' for my liking.

Then we have the likes of Sam Allardyce, Steve Bruce, Tony Pullis etc.
Don't think so.

Stuart Pearce maybe in the future and maybe some of the younger managers in a few years time.

Sorry, I think Capello is the right man at the moment and Pearce must be learning so much working along side him.

Too question Capello's integrity is a downright insult!
He is a highly moral man and to even suggest that he would take a bribe is quite insulting and distasteful.

I am convinced that England will progress to the semi-finals where they will probably meet Brazil.
Anything can happen in one game of football at that stage of a tournament and whilst I acknowledge Brazil are good, they are not brilliant and are definately beatable.

The other side of the draw could be quite difficult with a lot of the traditionally strong European teams in the mix.
Spain are obvious contenders and could easily get to the final.
Then there are the obvious countries like Germany, Italy, Holland etc.

I think Argentina will be poor; Maradonna,
, was a great player, (said through gritted teeth, I will never forgive him for CHEATING) is proving to be a complete embarrassment as a manager.

France are crap and a shadow of their former selves.

Me, my money is already on England, (yes I know it maybe just blind patriotism but I genuinely feel we just might do it this time!), but I may have a daft bet on Uruguay and maybe Holland.


Thanks for at least not being a thick head and downright insulting poor DR Conspire like some other "member "here, I see your point, Iam old fashioned in a way , I have been a England fan for decades.
I feel there is nothing offensive about my comments, but fair play to you mentioning Capellos integrity.



posted on Apr, 26 2010 @ 06:31 AM
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I think Spain will win it. Either them or someone like Netherlands..

But on topic with England, with the players they've got they should be winning everything in my oppinion. Solid defence. A solid mid-field. and a half decent strike-force! They'll get through to the knock out stages, but after that..? who can guess....


[edit on 26/4/10 by Esrom Escutcheon Esquire]



posted on Apr, 26 2010 @ 06:51 AM
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At the moment I really can't see anyone winning but Spain; they're record is brilliant.

After them I would go for Brazil with Argentina my outside bet...terrible qualifying record but with Messi anything is possible!

As for England? Quarterfinals, Semifinals at best. I hope I'm wrong though



posted on Apr, 26 2010 @ 07:11 AM
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Yeah, when I think about how Argentina only "just" qualified for the world cup it makes you wonder... But maybe they'll get their act together now?
But Tevez and Messi should be leathal upfront, but maybe they cancel each other out?



posted on Apr, 26 2010 @ 07:56 AM
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The way I see it is that the qualifying stages mean absolutely nothing once the tournament starts. Anything is possible.

Especially when your team contains the best player on the planet and Diego Maradona is the manager - it seems set up for them to win.

Still outsiders in my opinion though.



posted on May, 1 2010 @ 05:44 AM
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I know next to nothing about the round ball code but I would just like to say along with the rest of New Zealand Go The All Whites !!



posted on May, 1 2010 @ 07:06 AM
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Argentina are currently 7/1 with Ladbrokes.

I'll give you, and anyone else 12/1.

Argentina haven't got a hope in hell.
Maradonna is a complete and utter buffoon and is clueless.
Hiow many great players, (again through gritted teeth because I genuinely despise the man for The Hand Of God and his attempts at justifying cheating, it boils my piss to see English journalists and ex-pro's sucking up to the arrogant bastard!), have become great managers, not many.
He currently plays a newly capped 36 year old and a full back as centre halves, played Gutiarrez at full back and has selected 78 players in qualification.

Even Maschereno, a quality player, has said they have to stop fighting internally and develop some tactics.

At a training session Maradonna made his whole squd stand and watch him take free kicks for an hour, not even practice themselves, just watch him.

Messi will go down as one of the greatest footballers ever, but a World Cup can not be won by one, two or even three people alone.

Maradonna lives in his own little world where he is centre of attention and he brooks no criticism and reacts disgracefully to any such criticism.

Argentina will not win The World Cup, unless of course Platini and his cronies want them to.



posted on May, 1 2010 @ 08:02 AM
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Argentina...Pffft

Maradona is going to need to book a one way ticket to Costa Rica with Charlie Sheen to dry out at Mel Gibsons retreat for the addicted.

No chance with him at the helm....



posted on May, 14 2010 @ 05:09 PM
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Less than a month to go almost.
Australia have announced their provisional squad as has England.
No real surprises the two nations players pick themselves almost.
Watched Germany play Malta, they look good.
Spain,Italy, Germany,Argentina,Brazil,England,USA,Australia,Holland,France, my picks to be at least in the last sixteen.
Italy are looking good I hate to admit,their organisation is legionary.
England are still fragile its something about their defence that hasnt been corrected for decades.
Australia they are the darkhorse.



posted on May, 14 2010 @ 05:39 PM
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Originally posted by xpert11
I know next to nothing about the round ball code but I would just like to say along with the rest of New Zealand Go The All Whites !!


Hear hear!

It's something that we even 'made the grade'!



posted on Jun, 2 2010 @ 03:16 PM
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With Maradona as a coach, I don't see Argentina reaching far.



posted on Jun, 2 2010 @ 03:52 PM
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Anyone fancy having a go at nefermore's ATS World Cup Fantasy League.

We might be able to get nef to get some ATS goodies out of The Amigo's for the winner if we ask him nicely!



posted on Jun, 2 2010 @ 09:35 PM
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Can I have a link please?



posted on Jun, 2 2010 @ 09:37 PM
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posted on Jun, 2 2010 @ 11:27 PM
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Ok Im going to start tipping.USING below, I will Bold the team I think will win


Group A
Match Date - Time Venue Results
1 11/06 16:00 Johannesburg - JSC South Africa v Mexico
2 11/06 20:30 Cape Town Uruguay v France
17 16/06 20:30 Tshwane/Pretoria South Africa v Uruguay
18 17/06 20:30 Polokwane France v Mexico
33 22/06 16:00 Rustenburg Mexico v Uruguay
34 22/06 16:00 Mangaung / Bloemfontein France v South Africa

Group B
Match Date - Time Venue Results
3 12/06 16:00 Johannesburg - JEP Argentina v Nigeria
4 12/06 13:30 Nelson Mandela Bay/Port Elizabeth Korea Republic v Greece
19 17/06 16:00 Mangaung / Bloemfontein Greece v Nigeria
20 17/06 13:30 Johannesburg - JSC Argentina v Korea Republic
35 22/06 20:30 Durban Nigeria v Korea Republic
36 22/06 20:30 Polokwane Greece v Argentina

Group C
Match Date - Time Venue Results
5 12/06 20:30 Rustenburg England v USA
6 13/06 13:30 Polokwane Algeria v Slovenia
22 18/06 16:00 Johannesburg - JEP Slovenia v USA
23 18/06 20:30 Cape Town England v Algeria
37 23/06 16:00 Nelson Mandela Bay/Port Elizabeth Slovenia v England
38 23/06 16:00 Tshwane/Pretoria USA v Algeria

Group D
Match Date - Time Venue Results
7 13/06 20:30 Durban Germany v Australia
8 13/06 16:00 Tshwane/Pretoria Serbia v Ghana
21 18/06 13:30 Nelson Mandela Bay/Port Elizabeth Germany v Serbia
24 19/06 16:00 Rustenburg Ghana v Australia
39 23/06 20:30 Johannesburg - JSC Ghana v Germany
40 23/06 20:30 Nelspruit Australia v Serbia

Group E
Match Date - Time Venue Results
9 14/06 13:30 Johannesburg - JSC Netherlands v Denmark
10 14/06 16:00 Mangaung / Bloemfontein Japan v Cameroon
25 19/06 13:30 Durban Netherlands v Japan
26 19/06 20:30 Tshwane/Pretoria Cameroon v Denmark
43 24/06 20:30 Rustenburg Denmark v Japan
44 24/06 20:30 Cape Town Cameroon v Netherlands

Group F
Match Date - Time Venue Results
11 14/06 20:30 Cape Town Italy v Paraguay
12 15/06 13:30 Rustenburg New Zealand v Slovakia
27 20/06 13:30 Mangaung / Bloemfontein Slovakia v Paraguay
28 20/06 16:00 Nelspruit Italy v New Zealand
41 24/06 16:00 Johannesburg - JEP Slovakia v Italy
42 24/06 16:00 Polokwane Paraguay v New Zealand

Group G
Match Date - Time Venue Results
13 15/06 16:00 Nelson Mandela Bay/Port Elizabeth Côte d'Ivoire v Portuga
14 15/06 20:30 Johannesburg - JEP Brazil v Korea DPR
29 20/06 20:30 Johannesburg - JSC Brazil v Côte d'Ivoire
30 21/06 13:30 Cape Town Portugal v Korea DPR
45 25/06 16:00 Durban Portugal v Brazil
46 25/06 16:00 Nelspruit Korea DPR v Côte d'Ivoire

Group H
Match Date - Time Venue Results
15 16/06 13:30 Nelspruit Honduras v Chile
16 16/06 16:00 Durban Spain v Switzerland
31 21/06 16:00 Nelson Mandela Bay/Port Elizabeth Chile v Switzerland
32 21/06 20:30 Johannesburg - JEP Spain v Honduras
47 25/06 20:30 Tshwane/Pretoria Chile v Spain
48 25/06 20:30 Mangaung / Bloemfontein Switzerland v Honduras

[edit on 2-6-2010 by zazzafrazz]



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