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Originally posted by easynow
if an Astronaut admitted to seeing or leaked info about UFO's wouldn't that be a threat to national security ?...
Originally posted by Exuberant1
That looks like the STS-80 footage.
Originally posted by poet1b
reply to post by JScytale
Yeah, right, if you think scientists here on Earth have anything but a faint guess of the sun's composition, then you are kidding yourself. Basically, what you have are people defining anything that is not solid, liquid, or gas, as plasma.
If there exists plasma life forms, there is also the very real possibility that these life forms can evolve intelligence. Maybe they are able to create matter at a atomic level, which enables these creatures to create machines far beyond our basic understanding.
Originally posted by easynow
if an Astronaut admitted to seeing or leaked info about UFO's wouldn't that be a threat to national security ?... it seems some people want you to believe Astronauts would just blab out everything they know and not get in trouble for it.
updated 12:47 p.m. ET, Thurs., June 11, 2009
For 15 years, scientists have benefited from data gleaned by U.S. classified satellites of natural fireball events in Earth's atmosphere — but no longer.
A recent U.S. military policy decision now explicitly states that observations by hush-hush government spacecraft of incoming bolides and fireballs are classified secret and are not to be released,
Following this line of reasoning a little further, it is interesting to contrast these schools of thought, Gravity versus Electricity, from another philosophical perspective. As it happens, the gravity-dominated paradigm is rich in dark models and metaphors. Black holes, dark matter, and dark energy are unknowable entities.
Light does not escape black holes, so they are unobservable; dark matter and dark energy are by definition unobservable. Accepting these abstractions as reality means accepting that about 99% of our Universe is unobservable and unknowable. Beyond that idea being just depressing, it is scientifically unsatisfactory and a philosophical dead-end.
In the Electric Universe, 99% of the Universe is plasma: observable, measurable plasma. This is a state of matter we can replicate in a lab and study. We see it every day in the lightning and the aurora of our terrestrial skies and in the static electricity when we take off our sweaters. The Electric Universe paradigm speaks of light, of “coronae,” “glow mode,” “sparks,” “lightning,” and so forth. The two paradigms did not set out with these dark and light metaphors a priori. The metaphors evolved after the fact. However, it is interesting how the two metaphorical systems evolved so differently.
Originally posted by zorgon
So ummm waht part of THIS on the cover of that NASA report do you not understand?
That is on the front cover of a public transmission transcript... and you think they will tell you anything important?
Have you ever looked at NASA's OFFICIAL information release policy? You are aware that they fall under the DoD and have for some time? Google is your friend I already posted this in many threads
You might want to read this...
Preventing release of classified information to the media.
(a) Release of classified information in any form (e.g., documents, through interviews, audio/visual, etc.) to the news media is prohibited. The disclosure of classified information to unauthorized individuals may be cause for prosecution and/or disciplinary action against the NASA employee involved. Ignorance of NASA policy and procedures regarding classified information does not release a NASA employee from responsibility for preventing any unauthorized release. See NPR 1600.1, Chapter 5, Section 5.23 for internal NASA guidance on management of classified information. For further guidance that applies to all agencies, see Executive Order 12958, as amended, "Classified National Security Information" and its implementing directive at 32 CFR Parts 2001 and 2004.
(b) Any attempt by news media representatives to obtain classified information will be reported through the Headquarters Office of Public Affairs or Installation Public Affairs Office to the Installation Security Office and Office of Security and Program Protection.
(c) For classified operations and/or programs managed under the auspices of a DD Form 254, "Contract Security Classification Specification," all inquiries concerning this activity will be responded to by the appropriate PAO official designated in Item 12 on the DD Form 254.
(d) For classified operations and/or information owned by other Government agencies (e.g., DOD, DOE, etc.), all inquiries will be referred to the appropriate Agency public affairs officer as established in written agreements.
Even for just 'sensitive' information...
Preventing unauthorized release of sensitive but unclassified (SBU) information/material to the news media.
(a) All NASA SBU information requires accountability and approval for release. Release of SBU information to unauthorized personnel is prohibited. Unauthorized release of SBU information may result in prosecution and/or disciplinary action. Ignorance of NASA policy and procedures regarding SBU information does not release a NASA employee from responsibility for unauthorized release. See NPR 1600.1, Chapter 5, Section 5.24 for guidance on identification, marking, accountability and release of NASA SBU information.
(b) Examples of SBU information include: proprietary information of others provided to NASA under nondisclosure or confidentiality agreement; source selection and bid and proposal information; information subject to export control under the International Traffic in Arms Regulations (ITAR) or the Export Administration Regulations (EAR); information subject to the Privacy Act of 1974; predecisional materials such as national space policy not yet publicly released; pending reorganization plans or sensitive travel itineraries; and information that could constitute an indicator of U.S. government intentions, capabilities, operations, or activities or otherwise threaten operations security.
(c) Upon request for access to information/material deemed SBU, coordination must be made with the information/material owner to determine if the information/material may be released. Other organizations that play a part in SBU information identification, accountability and release (e.g., General Counsel, External Relations, Procurement, etc.) must be consulted for assistance and/or concurrence prior to release.
(d) Requests for SBU information from other Government agencies must be referred to the respective Agency public affairs officer.
Sorry to burst your little bubble but NASA has no obligation to tell you anything if someone labels it 'classified' or 'sensitive'
Yeah kewl... my daughter saw it smile around .24
Originally posted by easynow
reply to post by depthoffield
FACT is that those objects are very close to the camera
if the objects were close to the camera and the camera is zoomed all the way you would not see them