New Analysis Video of the STS-75 Tether Incident

reply to post by easynow

They can say whatever they want, the critters and foo are surely one of the same, ufo orbs buzzing around in the sky.

Originally posted by cropmuncher
reply to post by zorgon

 

Look similar to these taken from within a crop circle last week...

These may be just lanterns although it is in the middle of nowhere.

Edit - Good video easy

I dont see how these can still be edescribed as ice particles or debrit or lens flare for that matter but i suppose some folks are never going to be convinced til they experience it first hand which is understandable i suppose.

I suppose im lucky to have had all the proof i need first hand a few times over.

[edit on 30/6/09 by cropmuncher]

Compare them to those in my avatar. Whatever the debunkers/lantern fliers say the ufo orbs are real!

reply to post by poet1b

Nice Video Easynow, did you make this from the original footage?

yea it's a great video, but i am not the person who made it. these videos are being made by LunaCognita. he is a smart guy and sure does a great job on the production. these are the best analysis videos of the STS-75 UFO incident i have ever seen.

he told me he has more of this to post because all of it would not fit into the time constraints of this new youtube video. i will be looking forward to seeing the rest of it

Effluent dumps would be scheduled by established procedures not to interfere with operations, and look nothing like this, and thruster firings can also be handled in mission procedures as well, and once again, look nothing like this. Neither of these operational procedures, nor debri shaking loose from the shuttle explain these UFOs.

well i tend to agree with you on this viewpoint. it does not really make sense to muddy the FOV if they knew there was going to be a chance to get some video of the tether.

my new theory is...they may have timed a water dump on purpose to hide some UFO's. i see things in the video that could be UFO's. i say that because some of the objects do not resemble or act like some of the other objects.

how can debri from a water dump look and act differently ? if it's all the same kind of debri than it makes sense to me that we would see the same results.

some objects do not move

some objects move at different speeds

some objects are different sizes

some objects have curved trajectories (some upwards)

some objects are making " V " directional maneuvers

some objects if close to the camera should appear as a "airy disc" but they do not.

What could these little white UFOs be?

well we have been discussing the possibility that some could be the UFO's termed "Foo Fighters"

that theory makes some sense to me because they were in fact photographed during WW2 and there were also reports of them from WW1.


if these "Foo's" were chasing Airplanes back then why should we assume they have stopped doing that for no reason ?

why would they not be interested in the Shuttle if they were interested in Airplanes ?

i personally believe these objects (the Foo's) are intelligently controlled and are watching out War technology. according to reports i have read , UFO's have supposedly been photographed by the military during combat and there are also some reports of this type of surveillance going back to 329 B.C. when Alexander the Great was invading India.


then we have all the UFO reports from people working at Nuclear Missile silos.





this UFO Hunters episode is really good and they examine the subject of possible UFO Surveillance of our latest and greatest technology

Some Excellent UFO Footage also

Part 1


Part 2



Part 3
www.youtube.com...
Part 4
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Part 5
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This is some UFO footage they examined in the show and these may be "Foo Fighters"







i could go on and on about UFO's watching our War methods and watching to see what we are doing. i think some UFO's may have been Near the Tether watching to see what we are doing up there.

i think NASA knew about it and flooded the FOV on purpose.

Originally posted by easynow
reply to post by poet1b

Effluent dumps would be scheduled by established procedures not to interfere with operations, and look nothing like this, and thruster firings can also be handled in mission procedures as well, and once again, look nothing like this. Neither of these operational procedures, nor debri shaking loose from the shuttle explain these UFOs.

well i tend to agree with you on this viewpoint. it does not really make sense to muddy the FOV if they knew there was going to be a chance to get some video of the tether.

my new theory is...they may have timed a water dump on purpose to hide some UFO's. i see things in the video that could be UFO's. i say that because some of the objects do not resemble or act like some of the other objects....

i think NASA knew about it and flooded the FOV on purpose.

Well, that explains everything. You have completed your disconnect from any verifiable reality and are now equipped to explain away any evidence contrary to your existing conclusions. Enjoy the trip...

reply to post by JimOberg


another interesting Shuttle UFO Video














[edit on 1-7-2009 by easynow]

reply to post by JimOberg

The ufo orbs/star of Bethlehem/critters/foo fighters/Nuremburg ufos/ exist James, you just can not deny the massive amount of evidence out there that all points to one simple reasoning.............

Originally posted by poet1b

Hey, you are the camera distorting theorist, I was just agreeing with you that it looks like there is some camera distortion. How much or why, I do not claim to know, but being that the tether looks so thick and the lower right hand corner of the screen is white washed out, throughout the video, clearly there are some problems with distortion, and the NASA crew talks about problems getting a good picture.

ok, you don't claim to know...

By the way, the "wash-out" right hand corner, is called "lens-flare", and appears when the frontal lens surface is directly hit by a very powerfull source of light, here is the sun. This is not a distorsion affecting shapes of the objects in the frame, but only local contrast, so it can make objects hard to see, or not seeing at all (wash-ed out)

the other distorsion, is the overexposure of the senzor, that's why tethter looks so thick. In fact, the thickness is constant, no matter the zoom, i will show this soon. So, the thickness of the tether image is ONLY a camera artifact. As for "plasma effect generated by the tether si that's why is so thick... yeah, right...

And other distorsion, is the blooming effect, the local negativation, appearinfg as i saw at many low light shuttle payload cameras, when extremely bright zones of an object acctually take a gray brightness in the image instead of pure white as expected. (i will show soon this effect on other videos).

And the distorsion which affects the SHAPE of the out of focus objects, is called bokeh, or airy disc, and is responsible for the tottally relation of the shape to the position in the frame, (you should see it if you look at the evidence with good-eyes) and the cat-eye effect too.

Originally posted by poet1b
How large do I think these plasma critter could be if they exist? I guess they would vary in size from micro to enormous. Space is huge.................. I would guess that these in this video could be anywhere from one or two meters in diameter, to possibly as large as a 100 meters or more, if they are only visible during certain lighting conditions, and or have a very low level of visibility.

If they are 1..2 meters, then how can they be seen so big in image? (remember, Sereda ond others estimates them as beeing 2..3 miles in size!). Your answer?




[edit on 1/7/09 by depthoffield]

Originally posted by poet1b
reply to post by depthoffield

 

Indeed, the shape wee see, is NOT the real shape of the "objects"

On what evidence do you make this claim? All the home made videos posted here, and my own personal experiments with my camera show that objects that get distorted in a video retain their shape.

On what evidence?! I said it multiple times, maybe you didn't saw it.

This:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

You really MUST read that post and examine all the pictures posted there...there are 11 different objects from STS-75 which ALL respect the shape according to the position in the frame.

Or maybe this:





As from your personal own experiments..they means NOTHING, because, first, you didn't bother to show us, so, there are just words, and second, that yours experiment surely is wrong, because, you are wrong when you conclude that out of focus small objects should retain the real shape even when defocused.


Below are example which tottally contradicts your "believings":


here is an example of how out of focus punctual objects, here planet Venus, is made as round bokeh by Canon S2IS camera, but made as rhombus by an Panasonic SD5 high definition camera:





Here is another example with JUPITER seen as a TRIANGLE (wow!):



at the end of the movie, you should understand why...

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Here are other examples of out of focus objects, small objects which transforms themselves as BOKEH, made by CATADIOPTRIC LENS:

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/4018b4546420.jpg[/atsimg]

and this:

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/84731159ece2.jpg[/atsimg]



here is another example which describes the same principle, the loosing of the real shape of the object, and copying the shape of internal shape of the lens or protunding parts (iris):

heart bokeh:

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/d9d11efb16b0.jpg[/atsimg]

made with this:

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/33f932522cc9.jpg[/atsimg]


Can you see "the light"?

Originally posted by easynow
reply to post by JimOberg

 

another interesting Shuttle UFO Video

Cool -- smarmy narrator, Jeff Challender, I guess.

The ground track map indicated orbital sunrise prior to the Chicago fly-past, let me see if there's a way to calculate it and determine when nearby objects get illuminated for real.

As to the PAO commentator, the logic about the exact time of sunrise seems to go like this:

We assume he's accurate with regard to the moment of sunrise, that he's telling the truth. His telling the truth is proof he's lying about sunrise.

How about we check up on everybody?

Suppose I find out the commentator misspoke and the sun had risen BEFORE the two flashers appeared?

What does that prove? What makes it worth my effort to find out, if you shrug it off and say, "Well, but how about THIS one, fella??"

reply to post by ufoorbhunter

They can say whatever they want, the critters and foo are surely one of the same, ufo orbs buzzing around in the sky.

thanks for the input ufoorbhunter,

i can't say i am totally sold on the idea of the "Foo's" being living critters.

it is certainly a possible explanation.

either way , you and i will most likely agree that these Foo's do exist and have chased Airplanes on many occasions. it's a factiod that the Skeptibunks that have never even seen a ufo tend to ignore.

www.youtube.com...


no use arguing or trying to convince someone that is only here to prove NASA side of the discussion.

reply to post by easynow



AARGGGG Information Overload

Where did you dig up that one? That is amazing I love the NASA announcer. I mean by now you would think they could just spit out 'ice crystal; without batting an eyelash... This one rattled him

Originally posted by depthoffield[/i
heart bokeh:

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/d9d11efb16b0.jpg[/atsimg]

Can you see "the light"?

Oh yes that is SWEET I can see the light for sure

Thank you so much for that heart picture...

You do notice that the point of the heart is in the same direction no matter where in the frame it is?

Thanks so much for proving that for us

There is NO WAY those hearts would show a point going up or split into two points like the main object goes from notch up, then two notches and then notch down... and while the notch is up on that object the other ones are down.

Old expression we have out here in the west...

Give then enough rope and they will hang themselves

There is nothing in all your attempted explanation that covers the transition of the notch shown in this sequence

Gonna frame that heart picture

Be a great skeptic debunking tool... You see there was a video once showing multiple light sorces across the frame... seems the guy took it off for the same reason as the heart pic... it disproved his point

[edit on 1-7-2009 by zorgon]