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The tether was bright when it was in sunlight and it was dark when it was in shadow. Everybody who saw it with their naked eyes -- including me -- observed that feature.
Originally posted by JimOberg
Always the digs about 'my boss' -- I'll bet they wish they had had more control over me when I blew the whistle on their sick safety culture before Congress in 1997, when I contradicted what THEY were saying...
Originally posted by JScytale
i wonder if zorgon and his mindless lackey are picking up on the fact tat as new people enter the thread they are all seeming to turn against them because they aren't showing much reason in their posts...
by the way Jim, are you the same Jim Oberg, space journalist, widely regarded as an expert on the russian space program?
Jay Alfred: Life-Like Qualities of Plasma: Bohm, a leading expert in twentieth century plasma physics, observed in amazement that once electrons were in plasma, they stopped behaving like individuals and started behaving as if they were a part of a larger and interconnected whole. Although the individual movements of each electron appeared to be random, vast numbers of electrons were able to produce collective effects that were surprisingly well organized and appeared to behave like a life form. The plasma constantly regenerated itself and enclosed impurities in a wall in the same way that a biological organism, like the unicellular amoeba, might encase a foreign substance in a cyst. So amazed was Bohm by these life-like qualities that he later remarked that he frequently had the impression that the electron sea was "alive" and that plasma possessed some of the traits of living things. The debate on the existence of plasma-based life forms has been going on for more than 20 years ever since some models showed that plasma can mimic the functions of a primitive cell.
Originally posted by poet1b
reply to post by JimOberg
You claimed that you saw it with your "Naked Eye", which means directly, without something in front of your eye, thus the term "NAKED", when you saw it through a telescope, which means not with your naked eye.
The tether was bright when it was in sunlight and it was dark when it was in shadow. Everybody who saw it with their naked eyes -- including me -- observed that feature.
Just exposing you for the charlatan you appear to be.
If you understood anything about deep vacuum you would know that it pulls things apart. Any ice crystals that are not ice vapor, quickly turn to ice vapor. Do you understand the term vapor? This can be observed on videos from space missions. There is a reason why most NASA videos do not show ice particles everywhere.
The ice crystal theory simply does not hold water.
Originally posted by wmd_2008
The Shuttle does routine water dumps what happens to that when exposed to the cold vacuum of space.
Originally posted by poet1b
Sure, larger amounts of water forming larger crystals would take longer to vaporize, like you say, some even up to a few hours.
Originally posted by poet1b
You saw it with your naked eye From the Ground? Ok, in the right conditions that would be possible,
Originally posted by zorgon
Originally posted by wmd_2008
The Shuttle does routine water dumps what happens to that when exposed to the cold vacuum of space.
Sublimation usually
I bet there is more than just water in those dumps though
Silly humans dumping waste where ever they go
[edit on 10-6-2009 by zorgon]
Originally posted by zorgon
Originally posted by JScytale
i wonder if zorgon and his mindless lackey are picking up on the fact tat as new people enter the thread they are all seeming to turn against them because they aren't showing much reason in their posts...
And which "mindless lackey" would that be? Seems once you have lost your case you fall back on the same tactics most 'debunkers' do personal attacks.
Not allowed here and will lose you any credibility
Seem to turn against me? I see a different angle. I see the same old debunkers that hound every thread make appearances to toss in their two cents worth repeating the same old rhetoric... I would feel ignored if they didn't make an appearance
As to 'public opinion' I will leave that to the stars and U2U's from the 'silent watchers'
by the way Jim, are you the same Jim Oberg, space journalist, widely regarded as an expert on the russian space program?
great detective work you just figured that out?
With that buttery post maybe you are a lackey?
Originally posted by poet1b
reply to post by JimOberg
You saw it with your naked eye From the Ground? Ok, in the right conditions that would be possible, but your observation would have been seriously limited, and most likely you used a telescope to verify you were looking at the right thing. Which did you rely on more, your naked eye? or the telescope?
Maybe you can pretend that your failure to include that you saw it with your naked eye 'from the ground' isn't leaving out an important part of the claim, but you aren't fooling anyone. Maybe you posted that you observed this from the ground on some earlier post, but not on this one, so what else was I to think?
I didn't see your response to my pointing out that the videos you posted show particles in space behaving just like I described. Do you concede on this point? or did you just overlook my response? It was right below the post you replied to first.
Originally posted by wmd_2008
clouds at least 2 miles the small paint fleck about 1.5-2mm across can still be seen.