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New Analysis Video of the STS-75 Tether Incident

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posted on Dec, 12 2009 @ 03:06 AM
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Originally posted by poet1b
Even NASA acknowledges moving plasmas and their interactions with bodies in space.


also endless number of reports in the uk mod files......

UK MOD FOIA




[edit on 12/12/09 by mcrom901]




posted on Dec, 12 2009 @ 04:57 AM
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Hmmm I thought before a better quality version from secretnasaman would have satisfied you but now it's only the NASA copy?


did you get that ^^^^^^ from your fantasy's or something ?

please quote me where i said a better version from secretnasaman would be ok

if you can't please admit that your posting lies



posted on Dec, 12 2009 @ 06:13 AM
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Originally posted by Arbitrageur
We know what a higher quality copy will show and what it won't show. for example, it will potentially show more detail in some of the objects seen. In this case since the objects of interest are mostly out of focus, that's not going to help us a lot.
If a better copy shows what looks like out of focus small objects as out of focus small objects and the on focus objects as better defined that would help people distinguish between what was and what was not out of focus, that's why I am waiting for any better version of this video.



posted on Dec, 12 2009 @ 11:40 AM
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and does our understanding of regular optical focusing also cover anomalous imaging via special cameras......


A high-efficiency, high-frame-rate ultraviolet (UV) charge-coupled device (CCD) camera that is especially well suited for biological and defense applications was developed. This is the first high-frame rate camera using delta-doped CCDs, which is suitable for biological imaging having high speed, high and stable UV quantum efficiency and insensitivity to visible light.

The camera is built around a back-surface illuminated, thinned, delta-doped CCD with antireflection coating and a visible-light-blocking filter. [Issues pertaining to the principle of operation, design, and fabrication of delta-doped CCDs have been discussed in a number of prior NASA Tech Briefs articles, the one most relevant to the present development being "Back-Illuminated CCDs With Integral Ultraviolet-Pass Filters" (NPO-21007), NASA Tech Briefs, Vol. 25, No. 7 (July 2001), page 20a.] Back-illuminated delta-doped CCDs have been found to operate at quantum efficiency of 40 to 60 percent in the 300- to 400-nm region of interest. With addition of antireflection coatings, quantum efficiency can be increased to between 80 to 100 percent. Moreover, the high quantum efficiency of delta-doped CCDs has been shown to be stable for years.

Because CCDs are also sensitive to visible light, filters must be included to block the light at wavelengths greater than 400 nm.

The camera has been demonstrated to operate at a rate of 2 to 10 frames per second with digital output and digital control of the camera parameters and in acquiring images of biological significance in a wavelength band centered at 300 nm (see figure). At the time of reporting, the camera is operating a delta-doped, 1024-by-1024-pixel, 12-μm-pixel-pitch CCD. Camera electronics are capable of operating at a rate of 30 frames per second and subsequent development is required for design and fabrication of video-rate CCDs for use in this camera. The camera is also compact and transportable and is suitable for field observations as well as laboratory measurements.


www.techbriefs.com...

or the more relevant near-ultraviolet (NUV) systems?


Tether Optical Phenomena Experiment (TOP)

Using a hand-held camera system with image intensifiers and special filters, the TOP investigation will provide visual data that may allow scientists to answer a variety of questions concerning tether dynamics and optical effects generated by TSS-1R. In particular, this experiment will examine the high-voltage plasma sheath surrounding the satellite...

In one mode of operation, the current developed in the Tethered Satellite System is closed by using electron accelerators to return electrons to the plasma surrounding the orbiter. The interaction between these electron beams and the plasma is not well understood...


www.springerlink.com...


Meanwhile, Nicollier took video of Earth's horizon using the Tether Optical Phenomena (TOP) equipment. This experiment, conducted by Stephen Mende of Lockheed Martin, involves the use of a camera system with image intensifiers and special filters and will provide visual data that will allow scientists to answer a variety of questions concerning tether motions and optical effects generated during the Tethered Satellite's deployment. In particular, this experiment will examine the high voltage sheath of electrically charged, or "ionized" gas that will surround the satellite as it flies through Earth's ionosphere.


science.ksc.nasa.gov...


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posted on Dec, 12 2009 @ 05:25 PM
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Wow, what an interesting find you have here with this UK report on UFOs or UAP sightings.

I think the way it starts off is very strong.

www.mod.uk...


That UAP exists is indisputable. Credited with the ability to hover, land take off, accelerate to incredible velocities and vanish, they can reportedly alter their direction of flight suddenly and can clearly exhibit aerodynamic capabilities well beyond those of any known aircraft of missile - either manned or unmanned.


I can't cut and paste from this article, and need to get a better image editor to post copied image, so I am not going to post more about it, but clearly it is believed that these are indeed plasma creations of some sort.



posted on Dec, 12 2009 @ 08:54 PM
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cheers buddy.....
intriguing indeed.... but what surprises me is that how these 'particles' remained in the uk airspace as 'ice'...... maybe it has something to do with the after effects in the temporal lobes of the observers or the skeptics in this case.....








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posted on Dec, 12 2009 @ 11:10 PM
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Just got the response from NASA PAO with the Execute Package for the day of the tether video.

I've loaded it here:

www.quickfilepost.com...

Can somebody save it to a more permant URL?

I've been preoccupied with the Norway UFO flap, but I didn't want to delay getting this report out for any reason. I'll be analyzing it in detail in a few days, but you're all welcome to get a head start.



posted on Dec, 13 2009 @ 12:06 AM
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Originally posted by JimOberg
Just got the response from NASA PAO with the Execute Package for the day of the tether video.


what a load of bullcrap..... what has all that got to do with anything important


where is the more relevant msg no# 101 - fd08 tss science update


it goes from msg 100 to 102.... com'on jim.... did you remove that?

who wants to listen to home messages broadcasting cnn or whatever...


were you seriously busy with the norwegian aerial spiral display or you were recovering from that retirement party....


in any case i'm sure you did not investigate anything about eiscat...


i.e. European Incoherent Scatter Scientific Association; @ Ramfjordmoen, Near Tromsø, Norway



you can try a deep peep @ +69° 35' 10.94", +19° 13' 20.89"

unfortunately its all obfuscated....





here is a bit about hiding them.....

www.superforce.com...




posted on Dec, 13 2009 @ 12:14 AM
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Thanks for requesting and posting this.

I've downloaded more recent execute packages and it seems like the format has changed since STS-75, as the more recent packages seem to have more details on the daily activities in the mission plan, while this older one doesn't seem to have as much detail.

When I look at message 090A-FD08 flight plan update, it starts out:

Make the following changes to the flight plan starting page 3-62.


So that raises 2 questions, do we have the flight plan referenced by that?

And do we also need execute packages for previous days to see what other changes have been made to the flight plan?



posted on Dec, 13 2009 @ 12:18 AM
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why did you make up lies about me ?

why did you not answer the post asking you to quote me ?



posted on Dec, 13 2009 @ 12:21 AM
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Originally posted by mcrom901
where is the more relevant msg no# 101 - fd08 tss science update


it goes from msg 100 to 102....


It is interesting that the TSS update MSG 101A is missing, pages 24-26


Even if it's an innocent mistake it's enough to make one wonder.



posted on Dec, 13 2009 @ 12:53 AM
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i am accusing you of making up lies and posting them

do you want to clear this up or not ?



posted on Dec, 13 2009 @ 12:56 AM
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The Tromso heater wasn't on during the hours that the missile test took place.

...According to their website.



posted on Dec, 13 2009 @ 01:09 AM
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surprise.... surprise.... then i guess its safe to presume that it was a failed russian missile test...... (being conducted in foreign aerospace without authorization)......



"We were asking the Americans, 'Are you operating a prototype aircraft in our airspace?' That, of course, was nonsense. You simply would not do that from a diplomatic and political point of view. It would undermine the entire structure of NATO if you were putting things through someone else's airspace, particularly a close ally, without seeking the proper diplomatic clearance. But we had to ask. And the Americans, having had similar reports, I guess, since the Hudson Valley wave [New York state, mid-1980s], had been quietly asking us if we had some large, triangular shaped object that could go from 0 to Mach 5 in a second. Our response was that we wished we did. This was the bizarre situation: that we were chasing the Americans, and the Americans were chasing us.
The official line from the Ministry of Defense is, 'Yes, this happened. No, we don't know what it is, but we say that it is of no defense significance.' How can it possibly be of no defense significance when your best jet is left for standing by a UFO? And, again, how can it be of no defense significance when your air defense region is routinely penetrated by structured craft?"
Nick Pope, headed up the "UFO desk" at Air Secretariat 2-A, British Ministry of Defense from 1991-1994





posted on Dec, 13 2009 @ 01:16 AM
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Originally posted by mcrom901
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surprise.... surprise.... then i guess its safe to presume that it was a failed russian missile test...... (being conducted in foreign aerospace without authorization)......




They cut it pretty close from what I can tell.

I have been working on a trajectory for the rocket since the other day, and it looks like it came very close to NATO airspace.

I have noted the hours of operation of the Tromso ionospheric heater in the next image along with all the coordinates given by the Russians as areas that the launch might be occurring from (according to Frisnit, denoted by the yellow tacs):






Possible trajectory and launch location of the Dec. 9 missile - cutting it close I'd say.:






And here is the simulated view from position of the Rocket/Spiral - it is facing towards Tromso where most of the pictures are from:




(the location is a close approximation)


Edit: I was looking at Tromso EISCAT on Google earth and other sources and Yup - They've obfuscated that place.






[edit on 13-12-2009 by Exuberant1]



posted on Dec, 13 2009 @ 01:49 AM
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thanks for all the infos and kudos to all the work you do..... i wish there were more guys like you out there....



posted on Dec, 13 2009 @ 02:07 AM
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Exuberant1, Zorg..aaa Mcrom901, as far as i know, this topic is about "STS-75 mission", not for the russian rocked failed a few days ago.




Originally posted by JimOberg
Just got the response from NASA PAO with the Execute Package for the day of the tether video.

I've loaded it here:

www.quickfilepost.com...



Well, this is the "execute package for flight day 8".

But we need for flight day 7.

As you may know, from the ST-75 Scene list, we identified the EXACT MOMENT of the tether video with "ufos", or what astronausts describes as "debris which flight with us":


(page 75 of the document)

As you can see, these happened on Fligh day 7 (MET style), orbit 118-119, after ~8:54:40, when the "crew is looking for the TSS-1R sattelite", and the camera is looking in Centaur constellation where they estimated the tether should be, but they see the tether only after the orbital sunrise.




In this "execute package for flight day 8" which you posted here, we even have a reference for the previous day with the tether encounter:


MSG091A - FD08 page 1 of 2


So, have you the Execute package for flight day 7 ?





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posted on Dec, 13 2009 @ 02:17 AM
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you forgot to patch up this important bit.....






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posted on Dec, 13 2009 @ 03:44 AM
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no, i don't forget. That (yours) quote was irrelevant into my post above. Even your post is irrelevant, but cropping the info and changing its significance because stripped by the context, and presenting "a la Zorgon style", is part of your charisma.

Your quote is from the "news from home" section (related to 28 feb 1996), page 10 in PDF file, and describes the debate inside NASA for a solution to retrieve and rescue the tether satelite or not to do this, while the astronauts said their opinion they are opened to any way the mission will transform, as managers (bosses) will decide.






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posted on Dec, 13 2009 @ 03:52 AM
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Originally posted by mcrom901
reply to post by ArMaP
 


and does our understanding of regular optical focusing also cover anomalous imaging via special cameras......



Regarding this special camera... UV is also light, no?

If this light is captured with a lens/mirros, and make images on a senzor (CDD or whatever), (which senzor in this case is a special CCD with a coating to increase efficency), then making the image with light follow the same rule of optics...including focusing.


BUT...
The tether sequences with "ufo's" which we discuss here, where made with the shuttle's payload bay camera C, a black and white visible spectrum low light camera.

details here: www.abovetopsecret.com...





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