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reply posted on 8-6-2009 @ 12:14 AM by muzzleflash
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68 $ is dirt cheap for a barrel of oil
it will go back to 100$ anytime
its summer driving season after all!
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reply posted on 8-6-2009 @ 12:16 AM by muzzleflash
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id rather he take her on 10 dates a day for the next thousand years
it would NEVER amount to the TRILLIONs wasted already
having him just go on dates for eternity would be infinitely cheaper
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reply posted on 8-6-2009 @ 02:02 AM by epete22
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Seriously? If gas prices are low then people won't buy the NEW GM crap # cars they're going to produce but if gas rises back to $4-$5 then people
will be forced to buy those cars.
This goes a lot deeper then any corporation. I suggest you really educate yourself on big oil.
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reply posted on 8-6-2009 @ 03:54 AM by War Otter
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I don't remember a lot of liberals or the media blaming Bush for the increase in oil prices. The elections were in full swing at the time, and W.
was doing his best to keep his head down and spare the Republicans any further embarassment.
Most people I know where upset by the tax breaks Big Oil was being given on oil leases in the Gulf of Mexico and talk of opening more territory for
exploratory drilling. However, most upsetting was the fact that as oil prices soared Big Oil was posting record profits, i.e. profiting at everyone
elses expense.
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reply posted on 8-6-2009 @ 04:25 AM by mental modulator
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Originally posted by RRconservative
Whenever oil prices went up under Bush, lefties were always quick to point out how Bush was taking care of his oil buddies.
Well same could be said for you - Where were you when I was paying $5.50 a gallon???
Seriously you want an answer just answer yer own question.
The reason Bush got much crap is because of things like the "CONDOLEESA RICE"
The double-hulled giant, Condoleezza Rice, is part of the international tanker fleet of the San Francisco-based multinational oil firm, named several
years ago in honor of Rice when she was a Chevron board member and stockholder.
Rice, the former Stanford University provost, served on Chevron's board from 1991 until Jan. 15, when she resigned after President Bush named her to
the national security post.
Sure fox and RUSH told you all about it huh....
www.sfgate.com.../chronicle/archive/2001/04/05/MN222557.DTL
Now if there is an OIL TANKER named BIDEN, CLINTON or OBAMA OSAMA then you have a valid question.
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reply posted on 8-6-2009 @ 04:27 AM by mental modulator
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Originally posted by War Otter
I don't remember a lot of liberals or the media blaming Bush for the increase in oil prices. The elections were in full swing at the time, and W.
was doing his best to keep his head down and spare the Republicans any further embarassment.
Most people I know where upset by the tax breaks Big Oil was being given on oil leases in the Gulf of Mexico and talk of opening more territory for
exploratory drilling. However, most upsetting was the fact that as oil prices soared Big Oil was posting record profits, i.e. profiting at everyone
elses expense.
I did - ME HERE!!!
I sure did!!!
Still stinks to high heaven!
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reply posted on 8-6-2009 @ 10:33 AM by Veritas26
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Originally posted by TheInfamousOne
The Republicans had their hands on the power switch for far to long, obviously republicans are disgruntled that they lost power. What a bunch of
repressed cry babies.
Barracks in office because the worst President in US History helped him get elected. Thank you Bush for screwing things up so bad that you ruined the
republican party.
HAHA Agreed. although Bush was only doing what his dad wanted him too you can't blame him completely.. lol
Lets hope Obama doesn't screw up too much
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reply posted on 8-6-2009 @ 10:42 AM by nixie_nox
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Oil and gas prices always go up over Memorial day. It is the demand of summer travel. Part of the gas usage rhythem. This is the gas companies taking
advantage.
It was called that the prices would go back up, months before Obama took office. Experts said that it will go back up and the decline, and to not get
comfy.
Under Bush, the prices went abnormally high, tripling themselves, unseasonably. Which is why people considered it Bush's fault.
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reply posted on 8-6-2009 @ 10:50 AM by Veritas26
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They should use all the extra money we spend on gas and get us out of debt...Gas is going to fluctuate no matter who we have as our president...It is
inevitable.....If they would use the technology they already have and make magnetic cars we wouldnt have to worry about all this now would we?
lol...Which by the way is possible...ever heard of the Venus project?
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reply posted on 8-6-2009 @ 02:02 PM by CoffinFeeder
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the gas prices are mostly a function of WALL STREET and the oil futures market. notice that when everyone started panicing and pulling out of the
stock market in floods, oil prices tanked, and subsequently, prices dropped? Ask people who understand that market.. the fat cats and 'investors'
were artificially driving up the price of oil on teh market so they could turn a buck.
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reply posted on 8-6-2009 @ 02:22 PM by RRconservative
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Originally posted by mental modulator
Originally posted by RRconservative
Whenever oil prices went up under Bush, lefties were always quick to point out how Bush was taking care of his oil buddies.
Well same could be said for you - Where were you when I was paying $5.50 a gallon???
Seriously you want an answer just answer yer own question.
The reason Bush got much crap is because of things like the "CONDOLEESA RICE"
The double-hulled giant, Condoleezza Rice, is part of the international tanker fleet of the San Francisco-based multinational oil firm, named several
years ago in honor of Rice when she was a Chevron board member and stockholder.
Rice, the former Stanford University provost, served on Chevron's board from 1991 until Jan. 15, when she resigned after President Bush named her to
the national security post.
Now if there is an OIL TANKER named BIDEN, CLINTON or OBAMA OSAMA then you have a valid question.
$5.50 a gallon?....even at the peak of gas prices I never paid over $4.10. You must live in a very Blue State.
So a private firm wanted to honor Condi Rice? Good for them....ever heard of the 1st Amendment? Why in the blue heck would they ever consider
honoring the enemies of American oil indepenence, like Biden, Clinton or Obama? That would be like PETA naming a scholarship after Ted Nugent.
edit: after the fact I realized you were from California.....very Blue indeed.
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reply posted on 8-6-2009 @ 02:28 PM by Veritas26
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I sont remember paying over 4.79 a gallon..but that could just be here i am not sure what foes on everywhere
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reply posted on 8-6-2009 @ 05:55 PM by die_another_day
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Do you know why?
To answer that you need to know why the stock market's been growing.
The reason for the stock market growth is corporate leaders inflating the market to make it look good so that you will have spent every last dollar
when the market really crashes. Due to this inflation, the dollar becomes inflated and gasoline prices increase accordingly.
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reply posted on 8-6-2009 @ 06:54 PM by Veritas26
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Does the stock market really have anything to do with gas prices? or is that just another excuse they give us
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reply posted on 11-6-2009 @ 01:22 AM by War Otter
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Originally posted by RRconservative
...the enemies of American oil indepenence, like Biden, Clinton or Obama?...
[edit on 8-6-2009 by RRconservative]
Energy independence is a Republican myth. It is strange that the Republicans, the intiators and defenders of globalizing the economy, would even talk
about independent anything. Perhaps they are just pandering to the masses.
The U.S. only produces about 8% of the oil it needs. Moving towards energy independence will only cause us to use a finite resource faster.
Eventually, it will leave us totally dependent on foreign sources, and not just for energy, but for all sorts of industrial applications, such as
plastics.
I, also, just love McCain's favorite line, "We spend 700 billion dollars a year, with people who don't like us very much." If this is the case,
we should arm the border with Canada. They sell us about 30 percent of our oil. Or, maybe, we should invade Mexico? We get about 10 percent from
them.
We only get about 10 percent of the oil we consume from "people who don't like us very much", e.g. the Middle East. However, the Middle East is a
very important source of oil for our partners in globalization (Japan and the EU). This is why time and again, the Republicans commit American lives
to wars for oil.
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reply posted on 11-6-2009 @ 01:27 AM by jimmyx
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Originally posted by RRconservative
Whenever oil prices went up under Bush, lefties were always quick to point out how Bush was taking care of his oil buddies.
On January 19th oil was trading at $34.78 on Friday it closed at $68.44. So in less than 5 months in office oil has DOUBLED under Obama. Where is
the outrage? Where is the MSM reporting on this?
newsbusters.org...
Virtually every time oil and gasoline prices rose when George W. Bush was in the White House, his policies and/or his connections to folks in the
oil industry were blamed by newsrooms from coast to coast.
Yet, even though oil has doubled in price since Inauguration Day, with retail gas prices up $0.75 a gallon, you'd be hard-pressed to find reports
blaming these spikes on President Obama or anything he's done since taking office.
The media is trying to ensure that Obama is successful. During the Carter years it got so bad that a "Misery Index" was created. Where do we stand
on the "Misery Index" right now? I guess we will never know, because the media is very careful to protect this guy.
Mod Edit: All Caps – Please Review This Link.
[edit on 7 Jun 09 by Gools]
amazing that you left out that saudi arabia has cut oil production by 4 million barrels a day...but i guess in your mind obama did that too. oh and
the fact that the refineries are only running at 80%, but again, in your mind obama made that happen also.
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reply posted on 11-6-2009 @ 11:01 PM by War Otter
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Yes, the Saudis cut oil production. No one was buying it that was why the price dropped. They needed to cut production, because the price was too
low. It's what their entire economy is based on ever since the sand market went belly up.
I won't defend it, but I understand it.
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reply posted on 12-6-2009 @ 01:50 AM by mmiichael
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The demand for oil is quietly decreasing worldwide. Reserves held out longer than anticipated with the economic downturn last years. Manufacturing
almost everywhere is down a good 25% or more.
China has been hit hardest but will not admit it.
Countries that import all their oil would like to see the prices depressed as they've been. But OPEC and the industry will try to get it to
somewhere not far below $100 per barrel.
The cost of getting it out of the ground and refining it has gone up dramatically in the last decade. Most wells are past peak and need tremndous
amounts of water pressure to extricate the stuff.
Some countries lucked out in quality like Iran where is is lower grade and has a much lower market value.
Watch for some surprise new sources in the near future. Africa mainly.
Mike
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