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US Millitary involved in anthropological studies in Mexico? The start of the NAU?

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posted on Jun, 7 2009 @ 03:26 AM

From 2005-2007, a team of geographers led by Jerome Dobson and Peter Herlihy of the University of Kansas worked with local trainees to map land ownership and claims on collective lands in indigenous communities in Oaxaca and San Luis Potosi. Called “México Indigena” and partially funded by the US Army’s Foreign Military Studies Office (FMSO), the project was a pilot program for the American Geographic Society’s Bowman Expeditions, which intends to create maps of the “cultural terrain” of poor and indigenous communities throughout the world.

.....What makes México Indigena troubling is the involvement of FMSO. Headquartered at the Leavenworth Army Base, FMSO is explicitly concerned with counterinsurgency and “asymmetric” warfare. According to its website, its mission is to provide analysis and data on “emerging and asymmetric threats, regional military and security developments, and other issues that define evolving operational environments around the world”. There is some question about FMSO’s relationship with the Army’s Human Terrain Studies (HTS) program—the relationship is close enough that several sources have claimed HTS is part of FMSO (e.g. Mychalejko 2009), where the program apparently originated before being transferred to another office of the Army.

.....The greatest shortfall in foreign intelligence facing the nation is precisely the kind of understanding that geographers gain through field experience, and there’s no reason that it has to be classified information… The best and cheapest way the government could get most of this intelligence would be to fund AGS to run a foreign fieldwork grant program covering every nation on earth (Dobson, in Mychalejko and Ryan 2009).

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US Military's Anthropological Work in Mexico

I don't know what to make of this.

It could be a more hands on approach to war on drug traffickers; a comprehensive mapping of the terrain for some type of strategic reasons; a survey of what raw materials can be exploited; some type of spying on insurgent paramilitaries in the region: the start of the NAU?
Maybe they found rare metals/minerals in the region?

I found this very odd, plus they are doing all of this "fieldwork" in one of Mexico's poorest regions, where maybe they feel that people who live in the area will not say much, some of the indigenous communities there don't even speak Spanish.

To be honest, I don't like this at all. I obviously don't believe that they are doing it purely to help the rural communities, plus, it seems to have been kept in secret for the most part.

What do you guys think of this?

posted on Jun, 8 2009 @ 12:13 AM
What has been going down there for 2 years at least?
Why keep it secret?
I'm thinking that this is just the beginning of something much bigger.

posted on Jun, 8 2009 @ 12:21 AM
reply to post by haika

I don't know about NAU but maybe NAU would help them keep their foot in the door. In the name of Democracy, that seems to be the policy in Iraq. I would imagine that they are searching for ancient relics in the area, probably something specific.

What? Who knows? Probably something to do with the mayans.

posted on Jun, 8 2009 @ 12:25 AM
reply to post by 12.21.12

Mayans were not in that area.
And it seems that they are doing some sort of mapping "fieldwork" which they also did in Colombia.
Sounds strange to me.
Anyway, if it was truly solely anthropological work, then why send the military into a foreign country?

posted on Jun, 8 2009 @ 12:56 AM
reply to post by haika

The accomplishments of these civilizations included the domestication of many plants and animals including maize, beans, cacao, tomatoes, chili peppers, squash, pumpkin, and turkeys.[citation needed] Also available in the fertile region of Oaxaca were pineapples, avocados, zapotes, and maguey. In the south, the Pacific Ocean was an important food source. The civilizations built by these groups are reflected in important archaeological sites including Monte Albán, Mitla, Guiengola and Huijatzoo. Monte Albán was a great ceremonial center built on a flattened mountain top by the Zapotec people which reached its zenith between 600 and 900 AD The ancient Zapotec village of Teotitlán del Valle near the city of Oaxaca is one of the oldest human settlements in Mexico.[citation needed]

What about the military? Maybe this has something to do with them?

Recent protests
Main article: 2006 Oaxaca protests
In May 2006, a teachers strike, calling for higher wages, led to the occupation of many buildings and streets in Oaxaca's capital city. On June 14, the Oaxaca Teachers Union was evicted. By October, supporters of the strike, led by the Asamblea Popular de los Pueblos de Oaxaca (APPO), had grown to tens of thousands, calling for Oaxaca governor Ulises Ruíz Ortíz to resign. Demonstrators launched a widespread campaign of civil disobedience and took over the state-run television station.[7] On October 27, 2006, paramilitary forces fired on a crowd of protesters, killing three: Esteban Zurrita and Emilio Alonso Fabian, locals involved in the demonstrations, and Brad Will, a U.S. independent journalist and activist who had been videotaping the protest.[8]
On October 28, 2006, Mexican President Vicente Fox ordered riot police to regain control of the city.[9] The following day, police and military forces used bulldozers, water cannons and tear gas to push back Oaxaca's citizens. Government forces seized Oaxaca's town hall by mid-afternoon. At least one more person was killed in the most recent violence, raising the total of persons killed to "more than a dozen".[10] Early on November 2, Mexico's Day of the Dead holiday, the Federal Preventative Police tried to clear barricades surrounding the Autonomous University of Oaxaca Benito Juarez, which houses the radio station Radio Universidad, one of the last radio or television outlets still under the control of the APPO. A pitched battle ensued, during which police fired tear gas onto University grounds and dropped gas canisters from low-flying helicopters. The protesters hurled rocks and fireworks at police and set buses and vehicles on fire as impromptu barricades. After several hours, the police withdrew, having failed at least temporarily to gain control of the area surrounding the University or to take the radio station off the air. Subcomandante Marcos of the Zapatista Army of National Liberation also called for the resignation of Governor Ruíz.[11]
APPO's occupation of Oaxaca ended on the night of November 25, 2006, when the Federal Preventative Police attacked again, this time making many arrests and clearing away APPO's last encampment, or planton, in front of Santo Domingo church.[citation needed] More than 20 buildings suffered fire damage, although it remains unclear who set the fires.[citation needed] Within a few days, activists handed the radio station of Oaxaca's Autonomous University back to the University, relinquishing what had become APPO's most effective rallying center. Many of those arrested by the PFP were sent to distant prisons.[citation needed] Many of them later alleged that they were tortured while in custody.[citation needed] Governor Ruiz remains in office. Oaxaca is also notable recently as being the site of the first death in the 2009 Swine Flu Outbreak.
During the subsequent months, civic leaders, Oaxaca's business community, and especially Oaxaca's tourism sector, have tried to bring Oaxaca back to its previous level of economic functioning. Starting in January, 2007, APPO has staged a series of marches. Until April, 2007, all these have been peaceful. On July 16, 2007, there was a clash between a large group of APPO supporters and government forces. The protesters claimed they were peacefully marching to the Guelaguetza Stadium when they were stopped by a larger contingent of local, state, federal and army forces, all in riot gear. Tear gas was visible over a mile away and there were burning city buses in the eastern road leading to the Stadium.[12]

It certainly looks as you have stumbled on a conspiracy here.

posted on Jun, 8 2009 @ 01:05 AM
Your wikipedia article only reinforces what I had written: no Mayans in that area, they were Zapotec and Mixtec cultures in Oaxaca.

Now, what I see more troublesome is what the f are American soldiers doing there? Why go into another country on "anthropological fieldwork"
What's with the mapping of Mexico and Colombia?
Does it have to do with drug cartels?
And why is Mexico letting military personnel from a foreign country in?

posted on Jun, 8 2009 @ 01:10 AM
reply to post by haika

Well it's not the mayans but a civilization from the same time period as the mayans and a specific site which may be of interest.

Anthropological fieldwork? Sure is but it appears as they are gutting the mexican government as well. I guess they figured that if they can get on the land, they can make it readily available for anthropological fieldwork in the future.

Question is...what are they looking for?

posted on Jun, 8 2009 @ 01:13 AM
reply to post by 12.21.12

And why do the same thing in Colombia?
Both areas are notorious for drug production and guerillas.
But also for their natural resources.

posted on Jun, 8 2009 @ 01:24 AM
reply to post by haika

Yep. Natural resources. And the first case of swine flu. You may be right about the NAU but I think this is just some of the foot work being carried out.

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