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Originally posted by Iamonlyhuman
Me thinks you think too much....
Originally posted by Riposte
God is neither good nor bad. God simply is.
It is the human mind that creates suffering and the concepts of good and bad, because it exists in duality. God is beyond duality.
Originally posted by Lannock
I believe the Bible is about aliens. "Heaven" is the name of the planet they come from or might even be their mother-ship. Yahweh wanted to play God, but Lucifer (I'm just using common names for them), wanted humans to be free from oppression and be equal to "the gods". Unfortunately Yahweh was stronger and Lucifer lost the "War in Heaven".
So, in short, I agree with the OP, Lucifer is "the good guy" and God/Yahweh is "the bad guy". Even though I'm anti-Richard Dawkins, I agree fully with him on how he describes God (vindictive, jealous, etc).
[edit on 9-6-2009 by Lannock]
Originally posted by SharkBait
Lucifer is a fallen Angel and his name was given to him by God.
is God bad ?
i was thinking what if Lucifer was in fact the good guy and all the story's about him where just to make him look bad and make good look like the good guy....
what if the garden of Eden was in fact a sort of zoo where god kept all the animals he had made \ collected .
was it Lucifer who helped us escape by giving us the knowledge that there was a world outside the garden walls and giving us the knowledge we would need to survive in that world...
Originally posted by wylekat
Is God good or bad. Easy to see how BAD God is.
I prayed for 20 years for some basic human needs ( a sig other, a family, a normal, stable life). I got....
*My heart broken severely.
*Talents that make my friends stare in disbelief (arts, music, ect ect ect)- and Any and ALL attempts at use to enrich and further my life- screwed over in ways I cant even begin to explain.
* I am left on basic 'life support'- I have food, shelter, power, and yes- internet (who doesn't in some form or another unless you live in a mud hut- and even then....)- I am allowed only certain things in my life. Anything other than 'certain things' becomes an all out disaster.
* God's 'happy little piss ant followers' love to tell me constantly how "Blessed!" I am that I am LIVING. And then split hairs about how I can see, hear, ect ect. If this is living- let me DIE.
*These same SOBs like to then proceed to stab me in the back, as screwed as I am, and on top of insult and injury, get whatever their dark little hearts pray for- and then have every excuse ever heard- and invent a few extra on the spot- as to why THEY get good things, and I get left with a toilet full of week old *ahem* crap.
*Ask any person who has had their child die, or massive misfortune befall them how 'good' God is. Not convinced? Read Job- or as I like to call it " God hangs out in Vegas". Screws someone over- inflicts disease all over him, and when Job asks why... " BECAUSE I CAN, MORTAL!" Of course Job gets double back. You always do when you gamble..... Even when you're a pawn, evidently.
And this just isnt me. THink of how many millions go thru this, HAVE gone thru this- and only the real insane ones praise this capricious, uncaring deity for his 'love'.
Also- keep in mind- if God is 'good', WHY did God create a being he KNEW would turn evil- and then let this being have at it anywhere he wanted? It's like raising a kid to be a crook- but you're a 'good' parent. Or so you'd say...
[edit on 14-6-2009 by wylekat]
Originally posted by AmericanDaughter
God is Perfect and teaches peace and love your enemys.
God Is Good
If people would heed His teachings this world would be the wonderful place indeed but He gave us freedom of choice so we wouldn't be a bunch of puppets and our lives are a result of our own decisions.
God Is Good