Can Obama be Stopped in 2012?, page 7

Originally posted by XD9611
reply to post by ufo2009

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we have been hated by the world LONG before the bush administration, do i have to list all of those incidents over the past 30 years, probably longer...

Sorry, I beg to disagree. Before Bush, people around the world had mixed feelings about America. But globally it was positive. You'll never know how much damage this 8 years brought to the world (oh, you can look at Iraq for an example) .
And I believe the damage done to the USA is very here too.

About why some people hate Obama so much, I have my opinion too, but it's not very politically correct to tell here. And I don't want to argue now, just share some opinions.

cheers

TheTilde

Originally posted by georgepatrick
reply to post by mikerussellus

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When the government owns 60% of a company, I call that socialism.

NO NO NO !! it is not !! because the intention is not to OWN that company but only to help it survive and to keep the employment !!! the intention is to get that money back when things will go better, it is not the role of a government to own such companies !!!!! isn't it important to keep employment ? is it better to have bankrupties with loss of money for all other companies involved ?

You are correct it is not the government's role. The problem is that governments and bureaucrats do not know how to run companies. These clowns have never so much as held a garage sale let alone met a payroll. They are now making business decisions including hirings and firings. Obama has already proven incapable of carrying out his presidential responsibilities as laid out in Article II of the U.S. Constitution let alone usurping unconstitutional powers. For instance Geithner, our current United States Secretary of the Treasury, admittedly cannot complete his own personal tax return. This point is rather scary you would have to admit and should have disqualified the man for the position. Further proof of his ineptitude is prior to being head of the fed; Geithner was the president of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York and effectively slept through the Wall Street and banking meltdown. Although Geithner has academic credentials a mile long, not so much in economics as one would think, as well as Washington connections through his family going back to the Eisenhower administration, one must be suspicious as to why this inept man is still in the mix. Now tell me it’s fine for Obama to run a corporation. He couldn’t run a lemonade stand.

George, I know you're not completely up to speed on what is going on in the US. Gm has floundered but not due to bad management in 2008-09. What did GM in was what are known as “legacy costs”. In the 1980’s the US autoworkers union made sweet deals with the manufacturers. These deals included lifetime benefits for retirees and their families. Gm and the other US manufacturers were locked into what turned into pyramid schemes with fewer and fewer active workers and more and more retiree benefits. If the automakers downsized along the way, they negotiated workers to retire early. They were then no longer getting production from these people only bills. It’s more involved than that. Essentially the US automakers negotiated in good faith to take care of their union workers and the union has choked the goose that laid the golden egg to death.

Foreign manufacturers don’t pay high wages or give the same level of benefits. That’s what has finally done in the US manufacturers. They should have been allowed to fold or restructure under bankruptcy laws to eliminate the union leaches. The autoworkers would still be employed at competitive wages. Probably to the same extent they will be now under Obama rule (GM is now restructuring and downsizing despite government intervention) but without the bailout funds having been siphoned away without a trace. We’ve been robbed.

reply to post by Hastobemoretolife

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Hey Has, I said similar earlier in this thread. Obama has completed his assigned damage. That was fast, don't you think? He'll continue doing damage but it's already too much. They don't need him to be re-elected. Sotomayor will help to lock in the Obama damage. The next president, if there is one, will be the nasty bastard. We've just been softened up and lulled into complacency with the last five clowns and their right, left, right, left swings. People think the next guy will always right the ship.

reply to post by Amagnon

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Some good points. You use "you" and "your" often in your post, where are you coming from with this? You post like a foreigner.

reply to post by jsobecky

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Yes, we just need to tie him to the results of his policies.

Originally posted by CharlesMartel
reply to post by jsobecky

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Yes, we just need to tie him to the results of his policies.

Agreed, but that is difficult to do as long as the MSM is in love with him. How can we get them to report the truth and not the sugar-coated fairy tale they are selling?

reply to post by miss_silver

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There is no comparison between Bush and Obama as to how the media covered them. The press was brutal on Bush and treats Obama like a messsiah.

As long as they treat Obama with kid gloves, the masses will continue to be led to the slaughter.

reply to post by jsobecky

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It's funny you should mention 2012. A lot more is going down come 2012 than just the presidential election and the UK Olympics. Everything about you, from the way you talk to your choice of avatar show me that your intentions are ingenuous. I do not hold it against you, but you should seriously reevaluate your stance. If you're a member of one of the three letter alphabet soup agencies, you'll go down with the ship too. I hope you are aware that you're working for the "bad guys" in this equation.

Your point of view sounds very similar to the propaganda expounded via Faux News and one can safely assume just about anything they say is either fallacy or slander. As the poster children for THE criminal cabal every conscientious human being should oppose, your strikingly similarity brand of deception is all but transparent.

For those of you without the energy to read between the lines, "If it sounds like something they'd say on Fox News, it's probably a lie." Whether this user is an agent of this cabal or a misguided individual cannot be known for certain, but as somebody who has put the pieces together and seen beyond the veil to some degree, I can tell you all that what this main takes for granted is simply not true. Obama is a projection of the mass planetary consciousness field, which is just a fancy way of saying he's our avatar.

If you want to change the world, change yourself. Everything outside of us mirrors what is within. Obama is where he is because his ascension to power was in the best interest of human evolution at this point in time. But don't take my word for it. Wait and see. The world is on the verge of a massive quantum leap. Since there's nothing you can do to stop what is to come, I'll leave you to your devices. Just sit back and enjoy the show. If you really must make an ass of yourself, don't let me stop you. Just keep in mind that it won't do a damn bit of good. The mass consciousness has already reached critical mass. The only option you have is to ride the leading edge of cosmic change or be caught in the wake.

Have fun, everybody.

reply to post by Syrus Magistus

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You seem to like to label people because they disagree with your love for Obama. Too bad; some of us are smarter than to fall for his flowery rhetoric and can see beyond his words and into his soul.

Obama is where he is because his ascension to power was in the best interest of human evolution at this point in time. But don't take my word for it. Wait and see. The world is on the verge of a massive quantum leap.

I'm sure the sycophants said the same thing about Hitler, Pol Pot, Stalin, and others.

If you really must make an ass of yourself, don't let me stop you. Just keep in mind that it won't do a damn bit of good. The mass consciousness has already reached critical mass. The only option you have is to ride the leading edge of cosmic change or be caught in the wake.

This is where you are wrong, and what frightens you. Your leader will collapse like the empty suit he is. His support is already eroding. He is making a fool of himself around the world, and is destroying our nation with his socialistic ideas.

His vaporous image will dissipate like the morning fog on a hot summer day....

and when he is ridden out of town on a rail, you will be left alone and forgotten.

Power to the people!

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