Jack the Ripper was Sir.William Gull hired by the British Royals.

Masonic Ritual Murders AKA Jack the Ripper

The Craft is alive and (very) well on Planet Earth.
Conspiracy, after all, is not just "Business-As-Usual;" it's also "Government-As-Usual."
Conspiracy Theories are only theories as long as it not 'confirmed' by the authorities, and for that reason it will remain a theory only.

Dear Jack was hired to cover up something that would hurt the british empire.
It is not my own research presented here, I'll cut it down to some what readable size for you...

Based on the graphic novel of the same name by Alan Moore and Eddie Campbell, "From Hell" is a richly sculpted, fictionalized version of the suppressed history of England - how a cabal of Freemasons orchestrated the so-called "Jack the Ripper" murders.

Abberline follows the clues, leading him to a conspiracy at the highest levels of Government and Freemasonry -- Sir William Gull (Ian Holm), the Queen's physician, and Sir Charles Warren (Ian Richardson), Commissioner of Police and member of the Ars Quator Coronatorum Masonic Lodge - confidants to Queen Victoria herself.

A gripping, well-styled movie, "From Hell" is a bold revision of history based on Knight's ground-breaking research.

Historically, this cabal of high-level Masons was determined to "protect" the Monarchy - and preserve their own control of the Government.

After all, conspiracies of States are always informative because of the depths of depravity that show what men will do to preserve the status quo of the Ruling Class and Power Elite. In this case, the movie deftly illustrates that xenophobia and unvarnished hypocrisy are the hallmarks of the outwardly prim and proper Victorian Age. The flood of immigrants. The rising tide of socialism. The perceived threat of Catholicism to the Crown. The possibility of working-class uprising. These were all political factors in an age when the debauchery of the Ruling Class was a fact of life, as were the ruthlessness and corruption of the Crown.

"A great deal is at stake if the Establishment considers it necessary to operate a full scale cover-up," writes Knight. "For the truth of the Jack the Ripper affair to have been painstakingly concealed can mean nothing less than State security was at risk, or that someone high in the Government or the Royal Family was involved."

Author Stephen Knight, in his out of print masterpiece, "Jack the Ripper: The Final Solution," explains how Britain's entire political system at the end of the 19th century was threatened by the hidden facts -- Prince Albert Victor ("Eddy") was not only bisexual, but he had married a Roman Catholic girl and fathered a child with her. Evidently these debaucheries were so scandalous that the Ruling Class would not abide even the slightest hint of this revelation.

When a group of working girls (Annie Chapman, Marie Kelly, Elizabeth Stride and Mary Nichols) decided to blackmail the Royals, the Marquess of Salisbury, then Prime Minister, had to take care of the problem. He entrusted Sir William Gull, physician and abortionist to the Royal Family, for the mission.

One of the country's most prominent Freemasons, Gull understood that "Freemasonry was the power behind the Government and it was the unseen influence of the Masonic elders which dictated major policies, not the pleasing façade of Commons debate."

The deliberately engineered panic, i.e., the murder of five prostitutes, was done according to Masonic ritual. The ritual murder and disembowelment "met with such ghastly success because of the audacity with which they were executed," said Walter Sickert, Knight's informant whose painter-father had intimate knowledge of the Cleveland Street murders. This so-called "audacity" is a trademark of Masonic "mischief-making."

"Freemasons applaud violence, terror and crime, provided it is carried out in a crafty manner," writes Knight. "Humor is all important and the most appalling crimes may be committed under its cloak."

"If Masonic supremacy appears in jeopardy, it is reestablished by a show of strength, by crimes of violence, perpetrated to demonstrate the continuing power of Freemasons for the benefit of Brothers abroad," writes Knight. "Crimes of violence would have been committed to reestablishing Masonic authority in the eyes of Masons everywhere."

"All Jack the Ripper victims were dispatched according to age-old Masonic ritual," Knight continues. The mutilations of the "unfortunates" were done according to Masonic tradition, the standard way of dealing with "traitors." In fact, the oath recited by initiates promises a ghastly death and mutilation -- in the case of "betrayal."

"From Hell" actually shows a Masonic ritual of initiation, and the candidate's recited vow of promised retribution in the case of his "betrayal" sounds like a dictation from the devil himself.

It is, after all, the standard Illuminati Two Fer (Two, Two, Two for the Price of One). In this case, Number One is to eliminate the blackmailers and witnesses, the prostitutes who knew about Eddie's indiscretions. And Number Two is to instill terror in the general populace by horrific murders (and "unsolved mysteries"), which traumatize the people into deeper submission and subconscious programming.

The "deliberately engineered panic" to which Knight refers has been used historically to shift the paradigm from a scam which is about to be uncovered to a new collective "concern."

Knight maintains that Inspector Abberline was historically part of the cover-up himself, and that the real "hero" was actually Ernest Parke, a twenty nine year old editor of the North London Press, "who pinpointed in his newspaper the deliberate mishandling of the brothel investigation and trial. He attacked the police not only for allowing one of the conspirators to escape to the Continent, but also for giving him so much time in which to do so that he managed to take his furniture with him. He attacked the court for passing a sentence of four months for Veck, who has been one of the worst offenders in an unsavory case."

Then Parke himself was charged with criminal libel in an unrelated case and sentenced to a year's imprisonment, effectively silencing him for probing much too deeply.

Though finding out that the "Jack the Ripper" murders, masterminded by Freemasons and perpetrated according to Masonic ritual, is an astonishing revelation to many people, the Whitechapel Murders are not the first to be attributed to Masonic skullduggery.

Freemason Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, who left the brotherhood in his later years, was allegedly poisoned for his "betrayal," as well as for revealing their esoteric secrets in "The Magic Flute."

William Morgan, author of a major 19th century expose of the Brotherhood called "Freemasonry Exposed," was murdered.

Film director Stanley Kubrick mysteriously died after his ritual-obsessed movie "Eyes Wide Shut" was completed.

And yes, Stephen Knight, author of "Jack the Ripper: The Final Solution" mysteriously died after his best-selling expose' "The Brotherhood: The Secret World of the Freemasons" was published in 1984.

A Freemason Speaks
Author Stephen Knight wrote one of the seminal books on freemasonry called 'The Brotherhood' in 1983. During the course of his research for this book he was introduced to a man known as 'Christopher', a mason of the highest 33rd degree ranking. In the Cafe Royal, London, Christopher showed him the papers demonstrating the authenticity of his masonic rank and told Knight that he was keen to "stop the rot" in freemasonry.

( Andrew L Morrison )

The Life and Possible Deaths of Sir William Gull

So , Jack gets his orders to create fear and panic by slaughtering these five women to cover up the pregnant whore situation.
Few knows this to be actual Masonic Murder Rituals, throut cut from ear to ear an intestence taken out and placed above left shoulder..

William Withey Gull was born on December 31st 1816 aboard the barge "The Dove" which was moored at St Osyth Mill in the parish of St Leonard, Colchester. He was the youngest of eight children and his father John Gull was a barge owner who died of cholera in London in 1827.

In 1837 Gull was accepted as a pupil at Guy's Hospital and this began a association with that establishment which was to continue for the rest of his life. In 1841 he graduated with a BA from the University of London, became a lecturer in Natural Philosophy in 1843 and received his MD in 1846. He was a medical tutor and lecturer at Guy's Hospital and Fullerian Professor of Physiology in 1847-1849. He married Susan Anne Dacre Lacy in 1848 and they had two children Cameron and Caroline.

Gull was made a Fellow of the Royal Society in 1869 and in 1871 he achieved national prominence when he treated the Prince of Wales for typhus. He was rewarded by being made a Baronet in 1872 and also became Physician Extraordinary and subsequently Physician-in-Ordinary to Queen Victoria. He became even more widely known due to his peripheral involvement with the Bravo poisoning case in 1896. This was probably not welcomed by Gull because a Dr Gully was much more deeply involved and the similarity of names may have given Gull an undeserved notoriety.

Gull died on January 29th 1890. His death certificate was signed by his son-in-law Theodore Dyke Ackland. This was rather unusual because relatives were not really supposed to sign death certificates as it was possible the could benefit from the death. What Dr Ackland did was not illegal but a bit improper especially as he was not the only doctor in attendance.

When Stephen Knight was researching "Jack the Ripper : The Final Solution" he visited Gull's grave at Thorpe-Le-Soken. Mr Downes the verger said to him "This is a large grave, about twelve feet by nine, too large for two people [Gull and his wife]. Some say more than two are buried there. It is big enough for three that grave." He added that "Burial places for two just aren't normally that big" and "of course, it's possible somebody else is buried there, without anyone knowing who".

Knight was also able to discover a pauper named Thomas Mason who was born in 1817 and would have been just a little younger than Gull. Mason died in 1902 and not in 1896 as Knight believed.

Sue and Andy Parlour while researching "The Jack the Ripper Whitechapel Murders" uncovered a strong oral tradition at Thorpe-Le-Soken that Gull did not die when it was stated that he had, the funeral which was held was a sham and that he was buried in the grave, at night, several years later.

Gull's will was probated in 1890 as would be expected but it was also probated again in 1897 even though nothing had apparently changed.

So did William Gull really die in 1890 as his death certificate stated or did he live on until 1897 or beyond? If his death was faked was it because this brilliant medical man had become the the insane killer Jack the Ripper or could there have been other reasons for the pretence?

Michael Harrison (who suggested J K Stephen as the killer) remembered hearing a story that the Ripper was a royal surgeon avenging his son who had died from venereal disease. Thomas Stowell (who suspected the Duke of Clarence) wrote that he saw in Gull's notes that he informed --- that his son was dying from syphilis of the brain. It is pure speculation but what if these are distortions of the truth and it was Gull that had contracted syphilis? His son-in-law could have signed the death certificate either to hide the fact that Gull had actually died from syphilis or to fake Gull's death and have him spirited away to some institution where he remained until his real death. The moral climate in the late Victorian period was such that had it become known that Gull had contracted syphilis there may have been a scandal and his family could have been excluded from polite society.

So it is perhaps just within the bounds of probability that Gull could have died in 1890 from syphilis or he could have died several years later from syphilis or from other causes. However, the most likely explanation is that he died from stroke in 1890 as his death certificate says. Later the rumours surrounding him became linked with the myth of Jack the Ripper but whatever else Gull may have done during the Autumn of Terror it is almost certainly did not include killing prostitutes in Whitechapel. If any conspiracy did surround his death it would have been for reasons which were in no way connected to Jack the Ripper.

William Withey Gull (1816-1890) Requiescant in Pace

Afterword
While writing this article I was struck by what is probably just a coincidence but which I found interesting never the less. Gull was involved with the Bravo poisoning case. In this a young wife, Florence Bravo, was suspected by some of poisoning her husband. In the 1970's Gull is caught up in the Jack the Ripper story and then in the early 1990's the "Maybrick" diary appears. In the Maybrick case a young wife called Florence was suspected, and in this case, found guilty of poisoning her husband. As I said just a coincidence...

Sir William Gull was one of many freemasons involved in the Ripper murders. There wasn't just one ripper!The murders were carried out to stop east end prostitutes spreading tales of Prince Eddys homosexuality. Both he, and his best friend, J K Stephens,(the son of the judge who sentenced Florence Maybrick) were gay and probably visited an infamous gay brothel owned by Charles Hammond which was situated on Cleveland Street.There they both contracted syphilis.Of course, police agents would have been following them and noting who they were associating themselves with. To stop the rumours circulating masons prowled the streets and cobbled alleyways searching for those spreading the rumours.
This is why so many of the suspects are either homosexual, freemasons, or in some cases . . .both!
William Gull. (freemason)
Prince Eddy. (Both)
JK Stephens. (Both)
Montague J Druit. (Both)
Dr Francis Tumblety.(Homosexual)
James Maybrick.(His brother was a high ranking freemason in London)
Claude Conder.(Freemason)
For a more detailed examination of the theory read this-

www.mara.org.uk...

Theodore Dyke Acland1851 - 1931

Theodore Dyke Acland, Theodore a surgeon, was married to Caroline Gull, daughter of Sir William Withey Gull (Queen Victoria's Physician in Ordinary, often suspected of being Jack the Ripper).

Born: 14th Nov 1851 Baptised:
Died: 1931 Buried:
Family: Acland

Link some additional info

reply to post by Mintwithahole.


That was a nice read, I save that link...

reply to post by ChemBreather


Its a fun theory, but most of this came from a book, I believe. Also I do not think their is any evidence at all (Documents or anything at all). But none the less a fun story, that kept me entertained.

Dr. Gull's ability to be Jack the Ripper, Donald Rumbelow in The Complete Jack the Ripper points out:

Medically the slight stroke that Gull had in 1887 was the first attack of severe paralysis. Although he recovered from it, its effects were serious enough to prohibit him from further medical practice. Taken with the fact that he was 70 years old at this time, this is surely enough to cast doubts on the story of his roaming about Whitechapel. Finally, Gull did not die in a lunatic asylum. He died at home on 29 January 1890, after a third stroke which left him speechless.

Also their is no direct connection to the Masons at all in any of the Ripper killings. Their is no evidence for anyone in the Police, the Royals or even Gull being linked or a member to the Masons.

BUT its still interesting and fun. However, I do not think Gull was the ripper, I do however, believe Aaron Kosminski was the Ripper. Check it out:

Jack The Ripper: The Case Reviewed

Good thread, kept me entertained

Star and Flag.

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Glad to be able to amuse you, but, some of this is actually in the movie From Hell, the writings on the Wall, that the PoliceChief saw and commended the bobby to scrubb off, cause they didnt want any 'hate riots' over the Jew comment, which is an Mason word: jewes...

reply to post by ChemBreather


Right, but it was not uncommon for un-schooled or uneducated people of that time to add the extra "e" to the end of words. Remember back than they spoke PROPER english and Proper sentence structure for that time. Which involved a lot of "es" and "s". So it was not uncommon to mis-spell Jews as Jewes to a person of an uneducated background.

Aaron Kosminski was an un-educated person. Gull was not uneducated he was a doctor and had an education which would involve spelling and sentence structure for that time. From Hell was based on the Fictional Graphic Novel created by writer Alan Moore and artist Eddie Campbell. THEY HAVE AMAZING, Theories, but absolutely no evidence and are considered by most A) Hoax's or B) Fiction.

I go with Fiction, because its a great book and he even said that his book was his opinion. So their was no need to hoax, he is an excellent writer and it was amazing. I enjoyed it very much, but its just not factual.

reply to post by TheMythLives


Well, jewes i think is pronounced jevees or some thing, it is an Masonic word with a meaning.

I saw this 2 hours mason google video, and he talks about the JTR etc...

It is too late at night here now, I gotta go to bed..
But I will digg more into it , and post when I got some thing Solid !! D

reply to post by ChemBreather
Great thread ChemBreather! S&F for ya! I have both books and have found that the chapter notes in From Hell are a great reference to the Ripper case also our very own TheMythlives has a Case Review thread on JTR so,feel free to post your theories there as well.

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Also their is no direct connection to the Masons at all in any of the Ripper killings. Their is no evidence for anyone in the Police, the Royals or even Gull being linked or a member to the Masons.

Well Sir Charles Warren who ordered the message in Goulston Street to be removed was a mason as was prince Eddy, and in the TV programme, Trial Of Jack The Ripper, William Gull was outed as a mason.! The prostitutes had their throats cut, their chests cut open and the innards placed over the shoulder, exactly the same death that anyone giving away masonic secrets is supposed to be killed. Since the prostitutes were spreading rumours about Prince Eddies homosexuality, in a way tellingt tales on a mason, then the way the prostitutes were killed should not be much of a surprise. . !
Also the "Jewes", as it was spelt on the wall in Goulston street is a reference to the Jewes who murdered Hiram Abiff.

reply to post by TheMythLives

BUT its still interesting and fun. However, I do not think Gull was the ripper, I do however, believe Aaron Kosminski was the Ripper.

Aaron Kosminski couldn't have been Jack The Ripper. For one thing, he couldn't talk English yet witnesses heard the ripper talking to his victims . .. Also, he was less than nine stones in weight and ate and drank from the sewers. He was also an imbecile. How can a slight, scruffy man of limited mental capability manage to restrain a fully grown woman? If he had gone near any of the victims they would have easily fought him off.
There is also some uncertainty surrounding Kosminski's involvement. He is mentioned by McNaughton as being a good suspect yet nobody knows why. . !He went into Colney Hatch lunatic asylum at the same time that another jewish man who had a fit of mania in the east end named David Cohen. It seems that the two have become confused as the moment Cohen was arrested all the police stood down and ceased looking for the killer. They, at least, thought they had there man. I think it's a good possibility that McNaughton got Kosminsky, a Polish jew, mixed up with Cohen, another Polish jew.

reply to post by Mintwithahole.

The prostitutes had their throats cut, their chests cut open and the innards placed over the shoulder, exactly the same death that anyone giving away masonic secrets is supposed to be killed. Since the prostitutes were spreading rumours about Prince Eddies homosexuality, in a way tellingt tales on a mason, then the way the prostitutes were killed should not be much of a surprise. . !

Yes sir Charles Warren was, that was my mistake. However, the Masonic ritual, for those that know of it, know that the mutilations of the Ripper murder victims' bodies do not reflect any Masonic practices, rules, rituals, or ceremonies. Any seeming similarity is only slight, inaccurate, and circumstantial.

The spelling on the wall is still shrouded in mystery in a few eye witness reports it was spelled as juewes, juwes, or juwes. Much like a person who was not well versed in English, but could speak it. However, much of this Freemason connection came from Stephen Knight, who was extrememly ANTI-Mason, for what reason I do not know, but he attempted in many of his writings to link Freemasonary with murders and blasphemy, everyone knows that Knights writings were 95% lies mixed in with 3% Truth and 2% fiction. Basically, Ignore Knight and his followers, their theory has been debunked, discredited and disproved.

Also no one really knows if the Prince was gay or not. He is often cited as concieving 4 children and many others, now he could have been bi or whatever, but people are still uncertain. There have been books made about him and his possible link to homosexuality, but no direct proof.

Eddy was also out of the country when the killings started. Their is just no evidence that the Royal Conspiracy is true and most consider it completely false.

The Knight theory, though interesting and entertaining in its own way, has been effectively debunked by many Ripperologists. Most notable was Rumbelow's refutation in his revised edition of Jack the Ripper: The Complete Casebook where Rumbelow provides evidence that Annie lived longer than Knight claims, spent time after 1888 in workhouses, and had Alice with her through some of this time. There are no marriage or birth records listing Eddy as Annie's husband or as Alice's father. Aside from rumor or secondhand statements, there was never any hard evidence linking Eddy to Cleveland Street, Annie Crook, or even Walter Sickert. The lack of evidence, conspiracy theorists purport, proves the theory because all evidence was destroyed! Regardless of the legitimate criticisms, the Royal Conspiracy remains one of the most popular theories with several movies, novels, and graphic novels built around it.

In the end, it is difficult to consider Eddy a serious suspect. Although rumored, there is no concrete evidence that Eddy had mental problems (either through syphilis or any other reason), he is reported being out of the country during the murders, and no solid evidence has been produced that links Eddy to sexual relationships with either James Stephen or Annie Crook. Despite these facts, it appears likely that (outside of serious Ripper circles) the theory of Eddy's involvement in the murders in some way will never completely fade.

Casebook: The Royal Conspiracy, Not so Royal.

Aaron Kosminski couldn't have been Jack The Ripper. For one thing, he couldn't talk English yet witnesses heard the ripper talking to his victims . .. Also, he was less than nine stones in weight and ate and drank from the sewers. He was also an imbecile. How can a slight, scruffy man of limited mental capability manage to restrain a fully grown woman? If he had gone near any of the victims they would have easily fought him off.
There is also some uncertainty surrounding Kosminski's involvement. He is mentioned by McNaughton as being a good suspect yet nobody knows why. . !He went into Colney Hatch lunatic asylum at the same time that another jewish man who had a fit of mania in the east end named David Cohen. It seems that the two have become confused as the moment Cohen was arrested all the police stood down and ceased looking for the killer. They, at least, thought they had there man. I think it's a good possibility that McNaughton got Kosminsky, a Polish jew, mixed up with Cohen, another Polish jew.

Incorrect, Kominski could speak English and he could also speak some russian, but his main language was Polish or whatever it was back than. Kominski had a brief understanding of the body, as most barbers at that time did. Some performed surgery and everything. He also owned a house in Whitechapel. I explain it all in the Case Reviewed thread. The evidence is their for Kominski, however, I am eyeing someone else as a potential killer, but so far Kominski is my man.

And because he ate out of gutters and no one knows his true weight or anything, he only was weighed when he was INSTITUTED and on the down slope. The murders had not happened in about a year. So that theory is shot out of the window. Also if that is used to say that he is innocent, because he is a pathetic and harmless creature. That is far from the truth, need I remind us about Richard Chase? He was pathetic and stated as harmless, until he started killing people of course. Which he justified that he was crazy and that soap was the cause of them haveing to be killed.

"one psychiatrist found him to be an antisocial personality, not schizophrenic. His thought processes were not disrupted, and he was aware of what he had done and that it was wrong."

McNaughton's statement was found in Kominski's file. However, that is not the best piece of evidence. At least 2 Jewish witnesses say Kominski kill one of the Ripper suspects. They found one, and he identified Kominski as the Ripper, but he refused to testify against a fellow Jew. The second witness was never found. Not to mention that the killings reflecting the art of Jewish libel, which Kominski would have been familiar with.

As we can tell Aaron Kominski is the best suspect so far, however, it is only my theory and my opinion and that should be made clear.

[edit on Aug 16th 2009 by TheMythLives]

I thought the identity of Jack the ripper had already been identified a an american doctor Francis Tumblety.
If one look into old news paper records in new york i think u will find a newspaper that has a story that british police was looking for the doctor in connection with the whitechapel murders.

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reply to post by TheMythLives


I'm not arguing that jack the ripper wasnt a mason or the people who hired him or whatever. Maybe he was who knows. The theories on this page I'm just taking as fiction. I'm a mason and have studied it for a long time, You are right, nothing he did had anything to do with any mason ritual. Do we people think we do sacrificies and stuff? lol.

And I'm sorry to whoever said this but noone is killed for giving away "masonic secrets". There are a few rumors of that from the 1800s. The main one is some morgan guy I cant remmeber his full name. Morgan is his first or last name.

Peace


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reply to post by loner007


Not necessarily. Tumblety has a lot of evidence against him, for instance he was a homosexual and very rarely will a homosexual man kill the other sex out of hate. While his heart was broken by a women when he was younger, that does not mean that he will be killer. He is stated as hating women or haveing a hate for them, but that doesn't make him a killer. Tumblety was fifty-six years old in 1888, far older than any of the men reportedly seen in the company of the victims, and he also seems to have been a man of much greater physical stature than the Ripper. As for evidence, lets just say their is nothing near solid to connect Tumblety with any of the murders. Not to mention why wouldn't he have killed anyone in Scotland yard when he was younger? Why didn't he kill any women their? Things just don't add up for him.

reply to post by jeasahtheseer


lol, I know for a FACT that you guys don't. I like the Masons, but I have no motivation to join them or anything, but the above was just misinfo and I had to address that.

Good to know that your a Mason my friend.

reply to post by TheMythLives


DOnt worry, a mason would never ask you to join. You have to seek out membership yourself.

Peace

reply to post by TheMythLives

First of all there's absolutely no evidence that Kozminski could talk English. As far as I'm aware he spoke in German. Also, he was identified as the ripper by Israel Shwartz who he had a long running disagreement with. Even the police didn't take it seriously and besides, Elizabeth Stride, who Kosminski is said to have attacked, is dismissed by quite a few crime historians and ripperologists as being a ripper victim.
As for the masons involvement. The reason Commissioner Charles Warren ordered the removal of the Goulston Street message is because whoever spelt jews, JUWES, had to have either been a mason or had masonic knowledge. Warren as mason was honour bound to protect other masons. Then consider how they, the victims, were mutilated. . .

The second, Jubelo—"O that my left breast had been torn open and my heart and vitals taken from thence and thrown over my left shoulder, carried into the valley of Jehosaphat, and there to become a prey to the wild beasts of the field and vultures of the air, ere I had conspired the death of so good a man as our Grand Master, Hiram Abiff!"
The Blood Oaths,1st,2nd and 3rd degrees.

It's pretty much a perfect description of the mutilations and surely can't be down to mere coincidence.
There's also this misconception about the entire East End being full of illiterate people. Far from it. Many newspapers grew to enormous proportions due to the fact that they sensationalised their reporting of the Whitechapel murders, accounts which were read by the people of the East End. Why would people who can't read and are poor waste what little money they have buying newspapers that they can't read? If you meant that the East End was full of immigrants from Europe who couldn't read, write or speak English then I would agree with you use Kosminski as proof of that.

In one of the degree rituals (and not everyone does the rituals exactly the same) Hiram Abif was killed by the The Juwes. I cant rememeber what they respresent at this time.

Anyways, as far as I know thats the only time its uses in masonry. I may be wrong though because I was shot in iraq and have brain damage and tend to be forgetful

Anyways, thought that would help for anyone that doesnt know where that word came from.

I still dont really see a mason connection. And if I did I'd admit it, sure there there have been some bad masons, but doesnt mean they are all bad.


[edit on 16-8-2009 by jeasahtheseer]