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Originally posted by Laxpla
Forgot some planes, B2, B52, and F117, also JSF
Originally posted by sweatmonicaIdo
F/A-22A Rapier
Originally posted by titus
Su-47 would fit better than Mig 1.44
it has more flying hours, and it was on airshow (MAKS 2001), and i like it more
Edit: Uhhh... maybe MAKS 1999?
[Edited on 2-5-2004 by titus]
Originally posted by Flanker
you got it all wrong
A-10 Warthog - Su-25/39 "Frogfoot" and il-102 (A-10)
AH-64A "Apache" - Mi-28N "Havoc" (outperforms apache) and mi-35
B-1B Lancer - Tu-22M3"Backfire"
F-5E Tiger II - MiG-21 "Fishbed" (MiG-21)
F-14A Tomcat - Mig-31"Foxhound" (outperforms f-14 in everyway except manuverabilety)
F-15C Eagle - Su-27SM (all su-27 will be upgraded to SM 4++ gen by the end of the year)
F-15E Strike Eagle - Su-34 "Platypus" (F-15E) and su-24
F-16C/D/G Fighting Falcon - MiG-29SMT and M2 F/A-18C Hornet - MiG-29K and Su-33
F/A-22A Rapier - Pak-fa (t-50) will take off in 2006 and enter production some years later.
F-117 - Su-22
B-2 - Tu-160
[Edited on 2-5-2004 by Flanker]
Originally posted by longbow
Why compare tu-160 with B2? These are both totally different bombers. TU-160 is supersonic bomber, but B2 is subsonic stealth bomber.
TU-160 can be compared to B1B (it was developed as B1A counterpart)
not really, tu-160 and b1b are also very different aircraft.
I really don't know why are you comparing F117 with Su-22, those are totally different aircrafts.
both are mainly ground attack.. i just dont think there are more such crappy aircraft as the f117, anyway su-22 wins hands down, especially the M$ , it also has air-to-air unlike the #ty f117
About PAK-FA: It is not F22 adversary
according to Russian air force deputy CinC, Aleksandr Zelin,
this airplane "in no case" will be inferior to Western analogues, including the F-22 airplane. The deputy CinC specified that this will be an ultra-maneuverable, low-detectable airplane with broadened capabilities which provide for the destruction of aerial and ground targets in any weather and time of day or night.
, it should be JSF adversary. Prototype SHOULD fly in 2006, serial aircraft in 2010-11. Of course there is the problem with the funding - only 1.5 billion $ have been appropriated for this project. The estimated cost for development is 15 billions. Pak-fa is being developed not primarily for russian Air-Force, but for export. The Russians fear that JSF can be a disaster for the Russian aircraft products by some of their traditional partners. (especially India).
the design of the pak-fa is ready.. engines are being tested long time ago.. so are the avionics, there will be different versions of the pak-fa and also VSTOL
And the laws of aerodynamics are the same for all, be you American or Russian. TU-160 is considerably bigger and outperforms its American counterpart. You also should remeber the technological margin between US and Russia, so some engineering solutions can't be directly copied and should be approached differently. And if we speak about a modern combat aircraft, it is a very complex weapon system and the overall appearance of the airframe says little about its true properties.
Originally posted by Seekerof
Mig 1.42 is not produced in numbers and is still under research, besides being under-funded. Is the Russian government looking to produce this aircraft after further tests/testings and what are the projected numbers?
Nice list though and seems fairly accurate.
seekerof
Originally posted by sweatmonicaIdo
Originally posted by Seekerof
Mig 1.42 is not produced in numbers and is still under research, besides being under-funded. Is the Russian government looking to produce this aircraft after further tests/testings and what are the projected numbers?
Nice list though and seems fairly accurate.
seekerof
Funny thing is, I remember reading an entry in the old Knowledge Adventure educational program Aviation Challenge about Russian Aircraft of the future. One of these was the MiG 1.44. This was 1994, so back then it was referred to as the Mikoyan Object 1-42. It said that the program was lagging behind schedule, so considering the economic situation in Russia has gotten worse over the last 10 years, my guess is the project is at it's twilight.
Let's face it, Russia is not the Soviet Union. It cannot be that awesome juggernaut capable of dominating the entire world as it once was.
I mean, if you can't even supply your officers with desks and paper, then how do you expect to keep an air force flying?