Originally posted by bl4ke360
This doesn't make sense to me, if you know someone with experience with GFL then that means it's real.
No it means that GFL as an Idea or
group of human are real, but what they believe is not. Like Scientology is real in that it exists as a group of people who believe in ancient alien
souls that now occupy people. But what they claim as the truth is not.
So I don't think you know what I meant by experience, I mean in person, like an abduction type thing. Not researching on the internet. As to
why I don't start a thread, is because there isn't physical evidence and I would get people like you start bashing it so what's the point?
Firstly, there is no physical evidence because it is all channeled. Second, as I recall it, you replied to my post first, and bashed it and me. As
for abductions and research, I have researched this extensively and still do. I provided you a link before to a thread on the topic that highlights
this interest I have.
If the rule of thumb by you standard is to be based purely on personal testimony of abductions, experiences or channeled messages then God, Jesus,
Mary,Demons, Reincarnation, ET's, Fairies, Zeus, Apollo, Lepricauns, Ghosts, Spirits, Poltergeists, Demonic Possesions, Channeled Spirits, Mitra,
Thor, Indra, oh and GFL are all real. That is fine by me but are you prepared to accept this standard as many of these other "real" entities
explain the universe as being one different to the one GFL explains. How do you reconcile all the personal testimonies and experiences that support
all these other enities and their explanations of things that contradict the channeled messages and the message of GFL? Or a belief that aliens exist
and so have formed a group?
How do you reconcile all the abductees who have entirely different explanation from their experiences? What about other ET inspired beliefs,
Scientology, Urantia, Terra Papers, Star Wars(lol), that explain the Universe differently? Hale Bopp, Raelism, Aertherius, Universe People! Are these
all true? Do we make a logical jump of believing that purely because I believe ET's then therefor all of these beliefs are logical, yet they all tell
a different story, which is illogical.
Let me ask you something that might let you realize what I'm talking about - Do you believe in intelligent ETs outside of our solar system?
I believe it is possible. Believing something exists, believing it is possible does not make it so. I understand completely what you are
talking about. Your other replies were to argue that GFL and Blossom and channeled messages etc where not the same and should be distanced from one
another. Now you are moving the Posts and the arguement onto what I believe?
If so, then wouldn't you think there is a pretty good chance at least a few civilizations got together and formed a type of alliance? I think
anyone here can agree with that.
BTW its not a few civilisations,in some GFL and Ashtar channeled messages it includes over 209,000 star
systems and hundreds of ET civilisations. So we are talking huge numbers with no other evidence except personal testimony and channeled messages. Why
can we not pick up any signals, surely these civilisations would have followed a technological evolution like ours. Surely there earliest progression
would still be out there, radio signals, Mircrowaves, old staelites or exploration craft?
Anthropomorphing intent into ET's you believe exist is all fair and good, but you also have to use the negetive traits aswell.
That they would invade, surpress, enslave. Destroy, conquer and utilise our resources. That they would not play a game with our civilisation and
babysit us through some kind of disclosure process via channeled messages. That they would not form alliances and groups but would compete, wage war
and destroy each other. That any protocol we may invision based on our sociological, technological or spiritual progression via a policy of
co-operation and alliance that we transfer as also being logical to anyother ET civilisation is only typical of our own thinking and evidence of this
transfer, that being they(et's) would behave in a way we ourselves think to be logical. Out of the infinite potential of life in the universe we
think it would be normal for other races to form groups, alliances and federations, that they would travel the universe and sit by waiting, sending
channeled messages, and putting "special people", like the OP's Ashtar Command claims, in place to help prepare Humanity for contact.
And I really don't know why you keep mentioning channeling and bringing Blossom goodchild into this like everyone else does. The logic your using
here is like this for example; A person claims to have received information from a single ET that a spaceship will arrive on a certain date. Nothing
happens on that date, so you start disbelieving in all ETs.
And GFL is different. GFL channeled messages. A fleet of ships encircle our
System. Special Souls are here on Earth. All GFL Channeled Messages. Ashtar Command(the OP is Ashtar Command), who first channels through Tuella, is
part of the Galactic confederation. Channeled. Blossom was embraced by Both Groups. Blossoms Channelings can still be found on GFL blogs and sites.
You think I started looking at this topic yesterday?
You want to distance channeling and Blossom from GFL because you know it hurts the belief. It is the source that inspires the beliefs in GFL, Ashtar
Command and Blossom. That is why it is mentioned. They all channel. They all supported Blossom until last year. Blossom still channels messages. So do
GFL, and Ashtar as do many others.
So surely if you can believe in ETs, you can believe in a group of ETs right? That's all I mean when I saw galactic federation. If you still
feel the need to further argue,
I don't feel the need to argue as it is you who replied to my original post and others, it is you who has sought the arguement, not I. If you feel
that because I fail to agree with you that I am merely argueing, then again you are wrong.
I can believe in ET's, but surely you can also not believe in them. And also believe that there are no groups and that this is based on the fact that
there is no evidence of these Et's or the groups? Except personal testimony and channeling
ET's can take many forms. ET may exist yet may have not developed as we have, with no societies, technologies etc. ET's may have advanced further
than us and are contacting us, but why channel messages, to only a few people. Why are they using such spiritual and abstract religious methods and
not direct contact, why is it based on faith to believe? Why do you need to transfer an anthropogenic perspective such as our logic to convince me of
the rational of species of Extra-terrestrials to show that GFL is possible? Think about that. Because that is all you have for me.
"If I believe ET's exist, then it is logical that there would be a group"+"channeled messages"=GFL exists. This is not logic. It is based on an
assumption based on a possibility added to a human claim that they have a channeled message from that assumed to exist possibility.
I suggest re-reading this post until it finally sticks.
I suggest you find better arguements than boring me with "i want you to keep
reading my post until you believe what I do or agree with me".