UCLA Prohibits Student from Saying 'Jesus' in Graduation Speech, page 4
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reply posted on 5-6-2009 @ 10:47 PM by Jakes51
reply to post by Annee


I'm not following you on your justification of religion being left in the home or place of worship. Colleges are supposed to be places where people can exchange ideas in a free and open environment, because last time I checked this is not Nazi Germany or Stalinist Russia.

Citizens here can and should be able to say what they wish and of all places at the university. If the person wants to thank Christ at their commencement that shouldn't be hindered by university bureaucrats at anytime. So now universities are in the censorship business?



reply posted on 5-6-2009 @ 10:48 PM by Hastobemoretolife
reply to post by Annee


There is no draw to it, this is America, she has her right to freedom of religion its as simple as that. That also means people have the right to be offended.

If they don't like what she has to say or who to thank then somebody should have worked harder to where she couldn't make her speech.

There are no compromises on rights, rights are rights.


reply posted on 5-6-2009 @ 10:51 PM by Annee
Originally posted by Jakes51
reply to post by Annee


I'm not following you on your justification of religion being left in the home or place of worship. Colleges are supposed to be places where people can exchange ideas in a free and open environment, because last time I checked this is not Nazi Germany or Stalinist Russia.



Its a state law.

I believe many schools have religious study curriculums - - for those students who CHOOSE to debate beliefs.

GAWD - - nothing annoys me more when poster start throwing around Communism/Nazis - - blah blah blah. Too easy.


reply posted on 5-6-2009 @ 11:11 PM by Sundancer
reply to post by Annee


I'm just saying... I think everyone should have freedom, not just me. If they want to say God it's not hurting me. If her whole speech was about how I should believe in her God that would piss me off unless I had equal time to tell everyone about my God.
That's all.


reply posted on 5-6-2009 @ 11:14 PM by Blaine91555
reply to post by Annee


I'm curious.

How does hearing the word Jesus deny your rights or cause you harm?

It seems to me since it would not that this is kind of like arguing for the sake of arguing?

Our ages are similar which means you actually took Civics and likely know what the Constitution says. You must also be aware to use the Constitution as a tool to stop someones Free Speech in this regard, you have to lie about what it says.

What this is, is the suppression of Freedom of Religion and Freedom of Speech. In other words it is a small group of intolerant people forcing their beliefs and rules on everyone else.

If you can prove to me that simply hearing the word Jesus spoken in a graduation speech can cause you harm in any way, I will reconsider.

If this goes to the Supreme Court, the school will loose. It has been tried many times. The tiny vocal minority of people who falsely claim that others speech should be controlled because hearing certain words harms them just will not give up. I think because it is a hatred very much akin to Racism and is most definitely a form of Bigotry. With some, they are just control freaks.
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