Originally posted by CuriousSkeptic
If she wants to make herself look like a mentally ill lunatic on her day, god bless her. It's not for anyone to get involved or take that away from her.

How did this make it all the way to the newz?

[edit on 5-6-2009 by CuriousSkeptic]

If it were a private school - they can do anything they want.

But it isn't - - it is a public school.

Therefore it belongs to ALL the public - - some public may not want an exclusive god as part of one of their greatest accomplishments too.

If you want her to be allowed to honor her god - - - then I suggest an open invitation be made to all students to have a specific time to address their god or belief - - no acceptions and no rejections.

Originally posted by Annee
Good!

Her personal religion doesn't belong at a graduation of multi-cultural students of various beliefs.

I don't believe your personal opinions should be on this message board and it is scary to think someone like you can vote. You pretty much contradict yourself by telling someone in a multicultural school that she can not thank someone from her own. Probably not your proudest post, eh?

Also, what if I wanted to thank Obama? Would they have a problem with that?

Originally posted by OKCBtard

Originally posted by Annee
Good!

Her personal religion doesn't belong at a graduation of multi-cultural students of various beliefs.

I don't believe your personal opinions should be on this message board and it is scary to think someone like you can vote. You pretty much contradict yourself by telling someone in a multicultural school that she can not thank someone from her own. Probably not your proudest post, eh?

Also, what if I wanted to thank Obama? Would they have a problem with that?

Right Back At Ya.

And I'm very proud of my post - - and my position on this.

Originally posted by GeeGee

However, I have no idea where you got the idea that the separation of church and state is mythical.

Because it is not in the Constitution.

The Constitution does not allow the establishment of a single religion, and it specifically allows the freedom of religion...not from it.

Originally posted by RRconservative

Originally posted by GeeGee

However, I have no idea where you got the idea that the separation of church and state is mythical.

Because it is not in the Constitution.

The Constitution does not allow the establishment of a single religion, and it specifically allows the freedom of religion...not from it.

Been through this in another thread - where ever that thread is.

There is an amendment - - - but mostly precedence has been set by winning court cases.

I gave a solution - - here it is:

Therefore it belongs to ALL the public - - some public may not want an exclusive god as part of one of their greatest accomplishments too.

If you want her to be allowed to honor her god - - - then I suggest an open invitation be made to all students to have a specific time to address their god or belief - - no acceptions and no rejections.

Originally posted by OKCBtard

That is silly. How does this sound. She can say what she wants, thank who she wants, and if you don't like it, you can leave the area in protest and look like an idiot. OR you could just take it with an open mind or just brush her off as another person blaming her accomplishments on a religouse figure and continue to watch the speeches.

Tell me what it is you are actually defending.

Cuz I'm not really sure.

Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by OKCBtard

That is silly. How does this sound. She can say what she wants, thank who she wants, and if you don't like it, you can leave the area in protest and look like an idiot. OR you could just take it with an open mind or just brush her off as another person blaming her accomplishments on a religouse figure and continue to watch the speeches.

Tell me what it is you are actually defending.

Cuz I'm not really sure.

Her right to thank who she wants! Freedom of speech! Freedom of Religion! Call it what you want, but at ones own graduation speech, you should be able to thank anyone you please.

I know that probably saying, "Okay, professor, I won't say those words." and then saying them anyway just might be contrary to what this young person feels in her heart. So, if I was her, I would make that promise, and then say them anyway, just in different order, or whatever way I could creatively say them.

I won't tell you which school district my children attended and my grandchildren now attend, because I don't want the ACLU or whatever other organization interferring with our community. PTA meetings begin with prayer to ask for guidance and wisdom in decisions. And at graduation ceremonies, the students are allowed to actually thank God, or Jesus, or Allah or the great Spaghetti Monster for their successes. Yes, really, a girl did thank the spaghetti monster one year. I laughed so loud at that. Really, it was quite funny, considering the topic was recently addressed in a letter to the editor of the local newspaper and created much follow up discussions in town and in the paper.

What about separation of church and state... If its a public school then its run by the state therefore no religious speeches or symbols should be present on the campus.

Originally posted by OKCBtard

Her right to thank who she wants! Freedom of speech! Freedom of Religion! Call it what you want, but at ones own graduation speech, you should be able to thank anyone you please.

She is not the only one graduating.

That is the point.

[edit on 5-6-2009 by Annee]