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reply posted on 5-6-2009 @ 01:15 PM by justsomeboreddude

reply to post by Rocketgirl

Yeah I dont know if they are keep the truth from us or they arent mature enough to handle questions that make them look more closely at their believes and some of the contradictions in them. All I want is the truth. So somebody please pump me full of truth.

reply posted on 5-6-2009 @ 01:16 PM by justsomeboreddude

reply to post by EnlightenUp

A star for you. Thanks for understanding my quandry. It is so tough to find the truth. Every time I ask questions people turn them around and use them as an excuse for their anger. It does appear you are right. It is only true if THEY believe it. So when the MSM agrees with you then quote it... but if not they are disinfo agents working for the government.

I dont think I will ever know the truth. Maybe there is no truth anymore.

[edit on 6/5/2009 by justsomeboreddude]

reply posted on 5-6-2009 @ 01:22 PM by Rocketgirl

reply to post by justsomeboreddude

There is truth out there, just have to find it. You must not give up on your search for the truth.

reply posted on 5-6-2009 @ 01:23 PM by double_frick

Originally posted by justsomeboreddude
reply to post by double_frick

i mean, there is a substantial amount of evidence pointing towards thermite being at ground zero....why?
show me evidence that there was an actual plane at the pentagon...
how exactly did they find passports for these terrorists and then later these same terrorists were found to be alive and INNOCENT.

all i want is explanations and if the MSM doesn't want to provide that and the gov't wants to cover up the truth then they cannot complain OR be surprised when people use their own deductive reasoning...which is about all any of us have in this time of BLIND FOLLOWERS of the media.

Wow I didnt know any of this. What evidene is there that Thermite was used? That would blow the lid off of this.

I am pretty sure I saw a video of a plane flying into the pentagon. I am not sure if it was up to the moment of impact but it was obviously going to hit. Could that be false?

Terrorists found alive. I havent heard that either. Shouldnt that be a big deal? Why hasnt someone brought this before the people?

i don't deny that the Pentagon was hit...i just don't believe it was a commercial airliner...

the experts that insist there was thermite found, of course, are not "credible" by the MSM...although they may have been credible before making statements that contradict the MSM.

i know that there were many "passports" found among the rubble or other "evidence" that this terrorist or that terrorist was involved....but a substantial number or "suspected terrorists" in this tragedy were found very much alive in other places of the world...and had no idea about any plans to terrorize our country in any way.

there is much more evidence--circumstantial and otherwise--that point us in the direction of "we are being lied to" and all that the people who are aware of this are left to do is make assumptions based on what we DO know and the LIES we also KNOW they are telling us.

all i'm saying is...
if the gov't is going to hide things, obviously (like ommitting the info on WTC 7) then they have to expect people to come to their own conclusions. and no one is likely to come to a conclusion that the gov't or the MSM is right or justified in lying the way they have so they must be up to "no good"

and here we are.

reply posted on 5-6-2009 @ 01:23 PM by justsomeboreddude

reply to post by Rocketgirl

Thanks for the encouragement. I shall seek the truth until it sets me free. It doesnt matter about how others treat me, only that I have the truth and they do not.

reply posted on 5-6-2009 @ 01:28 PM by Rocketgirl

reply to post by justsomeboreddude

That's the spirit. Now you go out there and you look for the truth. Remember never to let anyone hold you back from discovering what you know in your hurt is the right thing to do.

reply posted on 5-6-2009 @ 01:39 PM by Ellirium113

Think about what information I have given...think about the Bush & Skull and bones society ties...think of the implications if the truth is discovered about 9/11. It will lead back to the roots and expose the Nazi's in power...9/11 was a key part of the plan to insitute a plethora of laws to control the population, quell dissent and continue it's path of domination & destruction. Also check out what the PNAC is (Project for a New American Century) and take note of the people sitting on the council of foreign relations. The truth is all around you but will not be told to you by them.

reply posted on 5-6-2009 @ 01:40 PM by johnny2127

Originally posted by justsomeboreddude
How do conspiracy theorists know the "truth" when we all have acccess to the same info? I mean we all have TV, the internet, library cards, etc. So how is it that conspiracy theorists find the "truth", while the rest of us seem to miss it. Are conspiracy theorists smarter than the rest of us, or is it that the rest of us just cant handle the "truth"? Also, how does a conspiracy theorist know they are right?

Well there isn't one answer. Some people are better at independent thought, and look for answers in more than one spot. Then come up with their own conclusions. Usually these types are not hoping for one result, but come up with it through thoughtful research and analysis.

Sometimes it stems from a personal experience that they cannot ignore. Something happened to them and no matter what they hear or read or are told, they know what happened to them.

But, in my opinion, sadly most conspiracy theorists are using it to fill some void in their life or are not quite right in the head. Not meaning this as an insult to anyone here, but it is a statement of fact. Paranoid schizophrenia does cause many into the tendency of believing things that aren't there or that they are being followed etc. Usually, these people are more into the extreme conspiracy theories.

reply posted on 5-6-2009 @ 01:43 PM by kcfusion

reply to post by Rocketgirl

I was not refering to you Rocket! But to the manner in which I perceive JSBD from his replies. Apologies if I'm wrong but I get the impression that he is being sarcastic!

reply posted on 5-6-2009 @ 01:50 PM by whateverponcho

if you're not blind you can see you're being lied to

its as simple as that

we dont necesasarily 'know" that we're right about certain theories, however their is heavy evidence pointing to a number of things that would shock the average american citizen, who is usually unaware even the basics of these situations.

and the term conspiracy theorists disgusts me. ya'll should be ashamed to call yourselves that. its just a term they use to make us sound crazy, when people hear the words "conspiracy theory" they think "oh, some crazy guy ramblin"

a lot of these so called "conspiracy theories" hold a lot more water than the explanations we're givin.

reply posted on 5-6-2009 @ 01:58 PM by specialkdt

We don't. I think the biggest problem with conspiracy theorists today is our ego's. It seems to me that when one person presents anything in a somewhat professional manner, people tend to believe it blindly without checking the facts themselves. Although this is kind of human nature, we need to put ourselves in check and do our best to seek the truth unbiased. As far as our ego's are concerned, Im not saying that we all are egotistical. I personally find myself getting enlightened by information I hear that sounds true, and trying to spread it all around like I know this huge secret in kind of a smug way. I do however try to stay as humble as I can. I am human and capapble of failure. My point to this rant is this: believing anything your told, even from reputable sources, defeats the whole purpose to unraveling our ultimate truths.

reply posted on 5-6-2009 @ 01:58 PM by EnlightenUp

Originally posted by double_frick
there is much more evidence--circumstantial and otherwise--that point us in the direction of "we are being lied to" and all that the people who are aware of this are left to do is make assumptions based on what we DO know and the LIES we also KNOW they are telling us.

all i'm saying is...
if the gov't is going to hide things, obviously (like ommitting the info on WTC 7) then they have to expect people to come to their own conclusions. and no one is likely to come to a conclusion that the gov't or the MSM is right or justified in lying the way they have so they must be up to "no good"

and here we are.

It doesn't mean that there was a conspiracy to engineer any false-flag events. My sense is they wanted to wrap things up in way easy for the masses to digest so as to minimize further inquiry into the matter. This way, those in the most opportune positions can get on with maximizing the utility of events rather than finding out what really occurred. Putting means of profit into motion at the right time I don't doubt has a far better return on investment than getting to the bottom of the matter. The PTB neither know nor care precisely what really happened themselves.

I cannot ignore footage from so-called "truthers" that is clearly altered to further their own profiteering agendas. One of the key questions espoused by the CT is "who benefits". I would have to say both the enterprising PTB and the astute CT looking to make a name for his/herself. They're both good capitalists, cut from the same cloth.

reply posted on 5-6-2009 @ 02:03 PM by Rocketgirl

reply to post by johnny2127

In my opinion, you can't believe everything a conspiracy theorists say. In some cases, it's best to look for the truth on your own instead of depending on someone else to find the truth for you.

reply posted on 5-6-2009 @ 02:05 PM by genius/idoit

reply to post by justsomeboreddude

First off we know when were being lied to and don't like it second we are not afraid to go against popular opinion third we are not lazy enough to just let it slide fourth smart and ornery enough to do the research and find the real answers fifth we are arrogant enough to realize we are smarter than the masses maybe not always right but definitely smarter and sixth we are motivated enough to actually look for the answers ourselves rather than just believe what we are told. The info is out there you have to be discerning I mean look at the difference between Fox News and MSNBC they are both news but definitely not the same

reply posted on 5-6-2009 @ 02:30 PM by Kailassa

Originally posted by justsomeboreddude
I am pretty sure I saw a video of a plane flying into the pentagon. I am not sure if it was up to the moment of impact but it was obviously going to hit. Could that be false?

Wow, you really saw a video of a plane flying into the Pentagon?
Was it a Boeing, like we're told?

Please tell us where it is.
The media doesn't seem to know of it's existence.
All I've been able to find is doctored security cam vids of the explosions.

reply posted on 5-6-2009 @ 02:35 PM by justsomeboreddude

reply to post by Kailassa

No I remember seeing video of the plane on approach into the side of the pentagon. I am not sure whether it was a 747, but it was some sort of large commercial plane. It was about maybe 300 or 400 yards from impact. Dont you remember seeing that footage?

reply posted on 5-6-2009 @ 02:44 PM by muzzleflash

Originally posted by justsomeboreddude
How do conspiracy theorists know the "truth" when we all have acccess to the same info? I mean we all have TV, the internet, library cards, etc. So how is it that conspiracy theorists find the "truth", while the rest of us seem to miss it. Are conspiracy theorists smarter than the rest of us, or is it that the rest of us just cant handle the "truth"? Also, how does a conspiracy theorist know they are right?

the truth keeps hitting you in the face but you keep coming up with absurd and extravagant explanations as to why it cannot be the truth

you are slipping into Denial of the reality that is in your face.

reply posted on 5-6-2009 @ 02:46 PM by trueforger

reply to post by justsomeboreddude

No,I am never completely either wrong nor entirely correct.I think it was Alfred North Whitehead who said,"We don't seek what is true,just what is true enough."When it is time for action,you go with what you haveSo I listen to others.And embrace change,freely discarding what is seen in new light to be incorrect.Synchronicity is,to me,not coincidence but affirmation from the whole.This is why I am a hardscrabble metal worker and not a rocket scientist.But I do have a good track record and am currently doing not too badly in this economy,so I am doing something right.This is not fuzzy headed thinking.And the I CHING is anything BUT ambiguous.

reply posted on 5-6-2009 @ 02:52 PM by muzzleflash

i mean, there is only one real theory here

the NWO - there is no alternate theory of any renown

there is only 1 , and that is the stuff you see everywhere around you

there is a reason why no one suggested that Oprah was the evil mastermind behind the plots to take over the world, Because thats absurd

however the reason you keep seeing "NWO this NWO that" because it actually exists

denying it just means you have not come to the point where you accept that there is no alternative reality to make it go away lol

reply posted on 5-6-2009 @ 02:54 PM by Kailassa