Information we recognize as Fact on ATS that makes us appear "crazy" to the sheep (My top 5)

5. The Mainstream Media is controlled

It is the ultimate key in order to controll the masses. I know that they (TPTB) haven't perfected the way they controll it... but it might not matter at this point, because they are still getting the job done. Even when you see something in the MSM that looks genuine, at this point in time... It doesn't matter... The MSM is controlled to the extent that the masses are controlled as well.

4. Luciferians

I don't think it's fair to name any names... But when you read about people like Aleister Crowley and Albert Pike, it makes you wonder who else is on their side. Who else believes the way they do. I for one feel like it's only a selecet few, and they have found ways to become "puppet Masters"... and we see examples of this with Skull & Bones and other secret societies like Bohemian Grove... But people try to tell us that this is all Fun & Games.

If you've done some research on this... It's pretty much now a fact that people in positions of power are using some form of sacred religion... which by now, it should be obvious that it is evil in nature. If you think societies like Skull & Bones and Bohemian Grove are all perfectly normal, go look in the mirror and say that to yourself, don't say it to me.

3. The Astral Plane / OOBE

I for one have not had this experience... But it's gotten to the point that there is obviously enough credible eye witnesses to explain that there is a way to separate your consciousness or spirit from your physical body. If this we recognize this as a fact (And society should)... Then you should keep your mind open to all possibilities.

I have a close friend that has had an Astral Plane experience... And I've met several people that had a Near Death Experience... But the NDE's aren't want I'm trying to focuse on... It's the Astral Plane. The Astral Plane has to be real, and maybe this is where we can find ourselves trapped in the Matrix.

2. September Eleventh

not everybody recognizes it as a fact that we were lied to that day, but most of us do. If you still want to defend the Official Report... Then you should recognize yourself as a conspiracy theorist... Because if The government is what determines what's fact and what's false (and they have a record of lying to us in the past.) Then go ahead and believe their conspiracy story.


1. TPTB

Most of us have tried to explain to a friend, family member, co-worker, or stranger that TPTB exist and they controll world events, and they are global. The only problem on ATS is that we haven't established who is on top of the pyramid yet.

Atleast we (ATS) have established that the Pyramid is real... But who are the people running this pyramid scheme?

That is the question... And if you want me to answer the question... I can't do it right now.





[edit on 4-6-2009 by Doomsday 2029]

You have me laughing hard in a very good way. It is your post, or rather what you are explaining that has kept me from posting at ATS for so many years.

Add to that the flood of misinformed or lazy posters who seem to have flocked here as well.

Dont get me wrong, I love your post and agree. My rancor is not directed at you. Star and Flag.

edit for grammar.

[edit on 4/6/2009 by whiskeypoet]

I'll add UFOs and ETs in general to ths list. Too many people can't get over what the Bible said to believe it's true, and here in the bible belt, I'm nuts.

[edit on 4-6-2009 by Heatburger]

Yeah add organized religion to the list as a way to control the masses for thousands of years and you are getting somewhere. Brainwashing people to be devoted to the cause and have unquestioning faith is also a good way of brainwashing the populus by TPTB.

the fact that you call skeptics "sheep" makes them more hostile to your claims.

reply to post by Doomsday 2029

It's pretty much now a fact that people in positions of power are using some form of sacred religion

I take exception to this. There are many 'mystery religions' that are considered 'sacred religions' that are in no way associated with Luciferian style religions.

This may seem a picky point but I think it needs to be stated.

Edit to say that I don't believe in religion in general but there are many sacred, aka mystery religions that are only mystery because they have been forced in that direction by modern organized religion.

[edit on 4-6-2009 by liveandlearn]

Maybe you guys missed this:

Top Ten Conspiracies

reply to post by kosmicjack


Cool, thanks for that link!

I was gone when that top ten came out, what a comprehensive list.

Originally posted by Doomsday 2029
5. The Mainstream Media is controlled

Maybe agree. Not to the level you do.

Originally posted by Doomsday 2029
4. Luciferians

Nope.

Originally posted by Doomsday 2029
3. The Astral Plane / OOBE

No. Not like this at least.

Originally posted by Doomsday 2029
2. September Eleventh

I tend to be moderate, the official story tends to be lacking in several regards but the alternative theories fall just short of lunacy.

Originally posted by Doomsday 2029
1. TPTB

Well, not really, not in the explicit sense you mean it. I don't see any single directed conspiracy against the masses anywhere, at least not on the scale that you mention it. But then, if it was that powerful, we wouldn't and couldn't know about it. It's just highly, highly, highly unlikely.



I really, really dislike the way your post tries to dumb us down and generalize us. But hey, who needs to deny ignorance anyway?

Originally posted by Johnmike5. The Mainstream Media is controlled
Maybe agree. Not to the level you do.

4. Luciferians
Nope.

3. The Astral Plane / OOBE
No. Not like this at least.

2. September Eleventh
I tend to be moderate, the official story tends to be lacking in several regards but the alternative theories fall just short of lunacy.

1. TPTB
Well, not really, not in the explicit sense you mean it. I don't see any single directed conspiracy against the masses anywhere, at least not on the scale that you mention it. But then, if it was that powerful, we wouldn't and couldn't know about it. It's just highly, highly, highly unlikely.

I really, really dislike the way your post tries to dumb us down and generalize us. But hey, who needs to deny ignorance anyway?

I was going to make a similar post, but quoting you JohnMike, was far easier. You mirror my own sentiments exactly! (And on every point too! What are the odds?)

If Soylent Green is people, then people are people too...not sheeple, OP. Just because people don't believe *EXACTLY* the same way as you do, doesn't make them dumb, ignorant, uneducated, deluded, mindless, soulless automatons. If you want to convince people other than those select few that think just like you, then showing a little compassion and tolerance of each person's right to believe what they choose to believe for themselves will go a long way in showing your enlightenment. When you dehumanize those who believe differently than you it only reinforces their perception that you are part of the lunatic fringe, lost in the technobabble of your self-delusional paranoia. If you want to help others see the light, show some respect, inform politely and intelligently, but ultimately respect what they choose to believe of their own accord, even if it is a different conclusion than the one you came to.

Remember, you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink!

I agree with a couple things in the posts so far.

The OP makes reference to sheeple, as many have come to do. I think or hope it is not because they are trying to dehumanize people who may not be aware of certain things, but more to generalize those who are the hard core consumer group that is blinded of everything but commercialism.

I know I was what many refer to as a sheeple or a *sherson* when I was growing up. It seemed like everyone around me was in the same mind set, young, old and in between. I remember talking to older people when I was a teenager and them laughing some of the ideas and thoughts off because they came from the mind of a youth.

I was brought up in, what I consider, a normal middle class home and was submerged into the buy, buy, buy mentality. Ignorant to many things that were really happening.

It amazes me, now that I have woken up a bit, how many people are still in this mentality. Many, many people have been so busy living their day-to-day lives with families, jobs, and everything that comes along with it that they haven't had time to look around and and wake up.

The government, media, and technology are three big factors in this. They train us, from a young age, to trust and believe the government. They condition us to desire certain social status and to achieve it through vanity and materialism.

I-Pods, Cell-Phone computers, flat-screen t.v.s, and laptops/pc/mac, are just a few things that are used to feed us our medicine to keep us asleep. While big government and corporations go about raiding your families salary by making you believe you need this stuff.

This type of program is not new. Governments have been bankrupted countries throughout history by keeping the general population on the edge of poverty while amassing all the fruits of the land.

When things get too serious and people start to catch on throw a war their way and give them something to bite into.

Democrat and Republican. Has anyone ever heard of 'Divide and Conquer'? This is a way to divide the government (and the people), give the private sector some feeling of control, while firmly tightening the grip around the countries collective neck.

I could go on, but I am ranting at this point - for that I apologize.

The second thing I agree with in the post is the subject of OBE or Out of Body Experience. Years ago I would have called anyone a nut case who even spoke about this out loud. I would not have believed it to be real, it just sounds way too new age.

Everyone who has ever lived, or who will live, should be allowed to experience this aspect of life. It is real. Anyone is capable of experiencing OBE. If you haven't experienced it, you should look into some of the techniques used to experience this and give it a try.

It will blow your mind.

[edit on 5-6-2009 by esteay812]