Debris removed from the Atlantic is not from the airplane of Air France, says Aeronautics, page 7
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reply posted on 5-6-2009 @ 08:04 AM by komp_uk
reply to post by Krpano


I hope not and I did ask for mercy before posting it... but it is as plausible reason as we have (even tho its complete fiction)..

With nothing else to go on properly it was kind of apt for that moment...

quick lets get to page 7


reply posted on 5-6-2009 @ 08:09 AM by azureskys
Can not verify this. Found at :

www.sfgate.com.../n/a/2009/06/02/international/i073521D62.DTL

Found in comment section
vkkv6/2/2009 4:48:30 PM

* 61 French
* 58 Brazilians
* 26 Germans
* 9 Chinese
* 9 Italians
* 6 Swiss
* 5 Britons
* 5 Lebanese
* 4 Hungarian
* 3 Irish
* 3 Norwegians
* 3 Slovakians
* 2 Americans
* 2 Moroccans
* 2 Poles
* 2 Spanish
* 1 Argentinian
* 1 Austrian
* 1 Belgian
* 1 Canadian
* 1 Croatian
* 1 Danish
* 1 Dutch
* 1 Estonian
* 1 Filipino
* 1 Gambian
* 1 Icelandic
* 1 Romanian
* 1 Russian
* 1 South African
* 1 Swedish
* 1 Turk



reply posted on 5-6-2009 @ 08:18 AM by Venetian
Here's a BBC article claiming the same thing: Debris 'not from Air France jet'

Debris recovered from the Atlantic by Brazilian search teams is "sea trash" and not from a lost Air France jet, a Brazilian air force official has said.



reply posted on 5-6-2009 @ 08:45 AM by mikesingh
Here's what happened...The final moments:

Experts have reconstructed the last minutes of the Airbus A330 using messages sent by the plane’s computer:


BBC

The most notable conclusion from the messages is that in the final moments, all the plane's important systems failed.

And at 2.14am GMT, Air France HQ received the last communication: THE CABIN PRESSURE IS DROPPING!

Here is what happened:

• At about 2am GMT, the pilot of the Airbus sent a manual signal. The plane was flying through a storm with black, electrically-charged clouds and strong winds and lightning. It battled against winds of around 160kmh.

• Quoting Air France information, Hamburg aviation expert Heinrich Großbongardt reported: “There was then for two to three minutes a flood of error messages: The navigation system failed, then display screens went blank.”

• The computer system was moved to an alternative energy supply.

• In the plane, an alarm was sounded. Passengers will probably have been sitting in the dark, expecting the worst.

• At 2.13am GMT, all important controls failed. Speed, height and direction could no longer be controlled.

• At 2.14am, the cabin pressure dropped.

Then the plane, with 228 people on board, fell into the Atlantic Ocean.


Now the point is, though modern aircraft are capable of flying in rough weather conditions, but what was the necessity of flying through a high intensity storm? Why can't airlines have SOPs to circumvent storm systems? Are they trying to save fuel and keep within the schedule? But what about the safety of passengers? Is saving fuel more important?

This incident just goes to show that aircraft stand no chance in a severe thunder storm in spite of on board redundant systems .

Guys, the next time you fly over the ocean, do check out the weather systems en route before boarding!!

Source


reply posted on 5-6-2009 @ 08:45 AM by Sakrateri
Originally posted by Skadi_the_Evil_Elf
Here are the pictures taken of the fireball seen:









Here is the link to the translated google page:

Translation




If these pictures are real has anyone noticed the massive storm surrounding the fireball?? Whats that ? you don't see any storm? strange I thought they were in the middle of a massive one??


reply posted on 5-6-2009 @ 08:59 AM by Duby78
reply to post by reugen


No one is claiming loss of another jet, I was just thinking of it as a possibility. If discovered debris originates from an aircraft, and jet fuel was found in the area, then it could be possible that two jets collided midair. But that is just a speculation of what could have happened. Let us wait and see.

First of all, I'd like to know whether debris found so far originates from a jet airplane. Then can we discuss more. Same for the fuel.

And considering the fuel-first report indicated that fuel found in the ocean is jet fuel, and that there are are no traces of explosive in it. After this newest reports that indicated that debris is not that of the lost Air France airliner, a report came out which indicated that the fuel is diesel, probably from a ship. I know that diesel used to power ship engines and kerosene used as jet fuel are similar, but...


reply posted on 5-6-2009 @ 09:01 AM by TheCoffinman
reply to post by mikesingh


nice map but your explanation is too simple.. too mundane for me.
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