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Originally posted by detane
I believe that is not an ufo operation or a bad weather .It s an israeli operation to stall the effort made by Iran to acquire nuclear technology.Some of the profile of the passengers in AF447 are all linked to nuclear technology( thyssen krupp , benxi iron steel, huawei ) Brazil being an important purveyor of high grade nuclear steel.Af 447 was shot down well upnorth of the actual location searched by the brazilian marine .
The same night the plane disappeared ,Al jazeera has talked about brief incursion of israeli airplanes over the north african airspace as they were preparing for a so called strike on Iran.It was pure diversion ,they were on a mission.The debris are actually being collected by the french marine at large of the canary island and hidden from plain view .I have no link to back my claim and it will remain pure speculation but it can be a lead to follow up.
Originally posted by tristar
Originally posted by reugen
reply to post by lunchmanstan
its ridiculous, all the ships in transatlantic offshore races are being tracked by satellite 24/7 for example, they can be followed on a realtime website showing their current position. That a transatlantic Airbus A330-200 filled with people just can disappear is total bull, someone is lying and deliberately witholding intel.
[edit on 2009/6/5 by reugen]
but French military spokesman Christophe Prazuck said extreme cloudiness' prevented US satellites from helping.
So that about cancels out those systems.
Since the outer skin of most airplanes is primarily aluminum, which is a very good conductor of electricity; the secret to safe lightning hits is to allow the current to flow through the skin from the point of impact to some other point without interruption or diversion to the interior of the aircraft.
Estimates show that each commercial airliner averages one lighting hit per year but the last crash that was attributed to lightning was in 1967 when the fuel tank exploded, causing the plane to crash. Generally, the first contact with lightning is at an extremity...the nose or a wingtip. As the plane continues to fly through the areas of opposite charges, the lightning transits through the aircraft skin and exits through another extremity point, frequently the tail (as shown by Gauss's Law).
Another related problem with lightning is the effect it can have on computers and flight instruments. Shielding and surge suppressors insure that electrical transients do not threaten the on board avionics and the miles of electrical wiring found in modern aircraft
Positive lightning, also known colloquially as "bolts from the blue", makes up less than 5% of all lightning. It occurs when the leader forms at the positively charged cloud tops, with the consequence that a negatively charged streamer issues from the ground. The overall effect is a discharge of positive charges to the ground. Research carried out after the discovery of positive lightning in the 1970s showed that positive lightning bolts are typically six to ten times more powerful than negative bolts, last around ten times longer, and can strike tens of kilometers/miles from the clouds.The voltage difference for positive lightning must be considerably higher, due to the tens of thousands of additional meters/feet the strike must travel. During a positive lightning strike, huge quantities of ELF and VLF radio waves are generated.
Positive lightning is also now believed to have been responsible for the 1963 in-flight explosion and subsequent crash of Pan Am Flight 214, a Boeing 707. Due to the dangers of lightning, aircraft operating in U.S. airspace have been required to have lightning discharge wicks to reduce the damage by a lightning strike, but these measures may be insufficient for positive lightning
Originally posted by detane
Ok Reugen ,i seriously think that they have the capabilities to do it , to refuel in mid air , to strike and refuel again as long as the machine and the pilot can handle the stress.As for the incursion it was reported over the moroccan airspace but for a brief moment.And i agree with you that they could have done it one by one but these are not palestinians , they belong to powerfull nations that will immediately see the threat and react to it.So yes the best way to do it was the accident theory out of brazilian radar range after electromagnetic disruption of the onboard system.This is not sci fi but actual and existing technology in the us and israeli arsenal.This is just a scenario, but a plausible one.