Originally posted by CB_Brooklyn

Jones did not come in the "truth movement" as it was declining. He appeared in the "truth movement" with his "controlled demolition - a hypothesis to be tested" after Dr Judy Wood already offered scientific PROOF that the government's version of events is false:

The Popular Mechanics article was for the sole purpose of debunking PROPAGANDA. They did not debunk the PROOF as offered by Dr Judy Wood.

Jones sole purpose in the "truth movement" is to distract people from the PROOF that already exists.

And since the media is completely controlled, they publish story's about Jones' "hypothesis" instead of Wood's PROOF.

I actually respect Wood much more than Jones. I think she is sincere but her analysis based on incomplete and distorted evidence is severely wanting. Jones is too obviously in it for attention and the inevitable financial rewards.

Originally posted by esdad71
The truth movement split with Jones on one side and Fetzer on the other based off of the theories they wanted to believe.

Point is, to me, Jones is a perfect plant. Respected professor from a respected university who suddenly decides 4 years after the fact to hold a seminar. After this, the entire movement truly did flourish. It was no longer just some Internet ramblings or video on You Tube, it was someone who wanted to give an alternate reality to the real events.

When he was done in the months that followed 3 groups emerged.

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You see, in 1989 Steven Jones was investigated for stealing research for cold fusion during a patent application by BYU.

Maybe he owed someone a favor. Trace BYU and BUsh's connections to the school.

Fire him and make him a martyr for a cause....

Originally posted by rhunter
Ridiculing the "messenger" notwithstanding, I advise both the new and "neutral" readers of this forum to actually count the sources provided by the "expert debunkers" lately on this (and other) threads. Talk is cheap...

Originally posted by mmiichael
I actually respect Wood much more than Jones. I think she is sincere but her analysis based on incomplete and distorted evidence is severely wanting. Jones is too obviously in it for attention and the inevitable financial rewards.

Somewhere there must be an good overview of the whole Truth Movement, but I haven't seen it. From what I've picked up, there was a growing grassroots level movement among concerned Americans that came into full force in 2002. It attracted intellectuals, academics, scientists, serious thinkers. It was jokingly characterized as being housed in Starbucks cross country particularly in San Francisco.

Those who track it found it started to dissemble in 2004, as the real facts started to emerge from NIST, FEMA, etc. Infighting within the loose community only served to make it look dubious.

Today it is characterized more as a cult, with millions of underinformed people worldwide accepting the vast array of commercial and agenda driven websites, videos, and books as proof. Conspiracy forums thrive on it, manipulation is rampant, and in the process the real truth gets lost.

Myself I see evidence of incompetence and deception on the part of the US admin and it's agencies. This needs to be investigated further by independent and objective journalists. And there are serious minded people doing the job. The cult level inquiries seemed obsessed with the controlled demolition aspect, aided by a mountain of videos and photographs. There is so much misinformation and internally conflicting data coming from them, if there is any solid evidence they've uncovered, it's hard to separate it from the junk science and hyper-speculation.

Like the JFK assassination, history is becoming trampled over and buried by muddy boots. Disinformation is flying from all sides. It will be a real task to separate fact from wishful fiction for future generations.


Mike


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Originally posted by esdad71
there was much more to 9/11 then demo'd buildings. It is all deflection to keep us from looking at 93, Flight 587 and the intel failures that led to 9/11.

The government was not as vigilant as it felt it was on 9/11. Complacent and not sharp is a good way to describe us. We were fat on money made in the 90's and even though the USS Cole was attacked there was no immediate thought to threat that someone would 'actually' do what they did.

I am still trying to find more on Jones but it is hit and miss. The only other thing I can confirm is that his work with Cold Fusion was about as close to scientific as his thermite testing.

First there is a Cold Fusion debacle that was also released early because f Soviet findings. Is this more evidence of working for the government and a way to provide power? The government buys up patents all the time.

Originally posted by esdad71
We have a winner. This is not going to an extreme but realizing that there was much more to 9/11 then demo'd buildings. It is all deflection to keep us from looking at 93, Flight 587 and the intel failures that led to 9/11.

Originally posted by CB_Brooklyn
How many times was Flights 93 and 587 mentioned in the media? Lots.

How many times were WTC standard controlled demolitions mentioned in the media? Lots.

How many times was WTC DEW mentioned in the media? Once.


The distractions are Flights 93, 587 and WTC standard CD. They're a distraction from the EXOTIC weaponry that the 9/11 perps want kept secret. This is not hard to understand.