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Police 'Arrest Innocent Youths For Their DNA', Officer Claims

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posted on Jun, 4 2009 @ 02:21 PM
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Police 'Arrest Innocent Youths For Their DNA', Officer Claims


www.teleg raph.co.uk

Officers are targeting children as young as 10 with the aim of placing their DNA profiles on the national database to improve their chances of solving crimes, it is claimed.

The alleged practice is also described as part of a "long-term crime prevention strategy" to dissuade youths from committing offences in the future.

The claim comes amid widespread criticism of government proposals to store DNA profiles of innocent people, including some children, on the database for up to 12 years.
(visit the link for the full news article)




posted on Jun, 4 2009 @ 02:21 PM
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Hundreds of teenagers are having their DNA taken by police in case they commit crimes later in life, an officer has disclosed.

Civil liberty campaigners are condemming the tactic calling it "diabolical" and say it shows contempt for children's freedom

This is outrageous! It is a conspiracy of great magnitude!
The metropolitan police officer said: "Have we got targets for young people who have not been arrested yet? The answer is yes. He decribes the method of capture as not just waiting outside schools to pick them up but they are acting on intelligence.



Shami Chakrabarti, director of the human rights group Liberty, said: "This is diabolical and proof positive that Liberty's fears are being realised.

"The current law has created an incentive for the abuse of police power so that youngsters are being targeted purely for the purpose of stockpiling their DNA for the future.....

.....Lib Dem parliamentary candidate for Holborn and St Pancras, Jo Shaw, who applied for the data, said: "The Met and the Home Office have some serious explaining to do if this is the case.

"Innocent children should not have their DNA profiles kept for years."

There are an estimated 5.3 million profiles on the DNA database – accounting for about one in 10 people – making it the largest of its kind in the world.


However 850,000 are of people who were never convicted of any crime.








www.teleg raph.co.uk
(visit the link for the full news article)



posted on Jun, 4 2009 @ 02:29 PM
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I'm not at all surprised
expect many changes in the coming months

i've said it too many times
those that were sold Bush's propaganda and called too many terroists
one day their own govt. will call THEM terroists

it was only a matter of time

Still these people won't wake up

Good Luck!



posted on Jun, 4 2009 @ 02:37 PM
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Originally posted by ModernAcademia
I'm not at all surprised
expect many changes in the coming months

i've said it too many times
those that were sold Bush's propaganda and called too many terroists
one day their own govt. will call THEM terroists

it was only a matter of time

Still these people won't wake up

Good Luck!


you poor brits...being a test case country for the new world order, might be time to pack up and go look for a free country...guienea pigs comes to my mind. what's wrong with your country there...i thought america was bad, but it sounds like you already have a form of dictatorial rule, done in a soft, unassuming way. maybe they'll want you all to get an RFID chip planted under your skin.



posted on Jun, 4 2009 @ 02:38 PM
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Its not kept for years its kept forever. 12 years from now they will just extend it.



posted on Jun, 4 2009 @ 02:41 PM
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i wonder if they use it to make secret clones or other nefarious experiments

why not its free dna to play with

i guess we dont have rule of law anymore, its rule of the Iron Fist now

the people will only suffer if they continue to allow it...



posted on Jun, 4 2009 @ 02:46 PM
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Is it just me or has there been a lot of news about DNA lately. I posted an article earlier today where a judge ruled it was O.K. to use tazers to get DNA from perps. Now that is scary for a country where you are supposed to be innocent until proven guilty.

To me this is infringement on our civil liberties. If you have not committed a crime (or a minor for God's sake), you shouldn't have to give anyone DNA or evidence.

This reminds me of the movie Minority Report. I don't believe that movie is far off as to how criminals will be caught in the near future. We will be detained before we even knew we committed a crime!



posted on Jun, 4 2009 @ 02:48 PM
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Originally posted by jimmyx
you poor brits...being a test case country for the new world order, might be time to pack up and go look for a free country...guienea pigs comes to my mind. what's wrong with your country there...i thought america was bad, but it sounds like you already have a form of dictatorial rule, done in a soft, unassuming way. maybe they'll want you all to get an RFID chip planted under your skin.


Firstly you need to do some homework
Yes UK got CCTV before the U.S.
But U.S. is getting RFID'ed before UK

it's just not going directly via govt. to people
it's going to you as an employee
all port authority employees or almost anyone working at the docks will need RFID, they are doing it at an employee level

this isn't happening in the UK yet

btw, I live in Canada bro
visiting UK only once

have a nice day



posted on Jun, 4 2009 @ 02:53 PM
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Originally posted by burntheships

Police 'Arrest Innocent Youths For Their DNA', Officer Claims


www.teleg raph.co.uk

Officers are targeting children as young as 10 with the aim of placing their DNA profiles on the national database to improve their chances of solving crimes, it is claimed.

The alleged practice is also described as part of a "long-term crime prevention strategy" to dissuade youths from committing offences in the future.

The claim comes amid widespread criticism of government proposals to store DNA profiles of innocent people, including some children, on the database for up to 12 years.
(visit the link for the full news article)




Whats stopping the government from placing people's DNA at crime scenes when those people are innocent.....

Innocent people are going to be accused of crimes if they give the gov too much trouble and start trying to expose truths.......They will put them in those camps probably.



posted on Jun, 4 2009 @ 02:58 PM
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I have been monitored by the police for 17 years, never commited a crime. They know everything i do, and they go around telling everyone. If i goto work they follow me and tell people all about my life and my private moments, trying to destroy me.

I have never commited a crime and never will, but the police have done this to me to totally destroy my life and making sure i could not live any life.

Plus before you say ipcc, that is bull, they only prosecute police on cases where the evidence is huge against the police.

Try living with electronic mind control,a nd having people know everything about your life, and goto work, having these scum follow you trying everything to get you to do something bad.

Police= there in society to organcise crimes against innocent people. Has nothing to do with stopping crimes, why would the police try to stop crimes, they need money and only get it from crimes.

The police are murderers and my life has proved it beyond any shadow of doubt, and what they did to me they can do to everyone in england.

Stop listening to the rubbish about using these things to stop crimes, the police use these things to destroy people on purpose, and they could not care less about who they destroy.

My life is absolute proof about precrime, it does not exist, it is there to destroy people they choose who will never do anything wrong.



posted on Jun, 4 2009 @ 02:59 PM
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Originally posted by Memysabu
Its not kept for years its kept forever. 12 years from now they will just extend it.


Yes I am certain you are right about that!

 


And this is happening in the U.S. as well...here is a very recent article even found in the MSM..

www.msnbc.msn.com...

Not as shocking of a write up as the OP...but still addresses privacy concerns.

Also, so curious as to what kind of surveillance is going on behind the curtain as they make the list of who to round up? Remonds me of this...
M16 Chief warns of Surveillance Society!

www.dailymail.co.uk...



posted on Jun, 4 2009 @ 02:59 PM
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Originally posted by muzzleflash
i wonder if they use it to make secret clones or other nefarious experiments

why not its free dna to play with

i guess we dont have rule of law anymore, its rule of the Iron Fist now

the people will only suffer if they continue to allow it...


The only way I can see for people to stop this from happening is to unfortunatley go to extreme measures which means probably sacrificing their own lives for the people of this world......

We aren't there yet....But when we get to a point where people have nothing to lose then they won't care at all......They will be heroes to the human race and that is the only way I can see for some changes to start happening..

They know this......That is why our middle class in the USA has been so priveledged up until know......Why risk your life when you have everything you could have ever wanted and can live comfortable.....

Why would you want to throw that away.....Now that they are doing some shady things pretty soon people won't care and will actually not mind not living on this earth and their sole goal will be to expose truths.....


I my self have too much I want to experience in life before I ever got to that stage......


But lets say all my friends and family have been taken away from me and I have nothing less then who knows .......but I like the potential my life brings me ...

That is the problem....There are so many options of things to enjoy and experience in life that people end up wanting to experience them all and would rather allow things to happen so they can maintain their lifestyle..


The more you have , the less you want to give up.



posted on Jun, 4 2009 @ 03:02 PM
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Originally posted by ModernAcademia

Originally posted by jimmyx
you poor brits...being a test case country for the new world order, might be time to pack up and go look for a free country...guienea pigs comes to my mind. what's wrong with your country there...i thought america was bad, but it sounds like you already have a form of dictatorial rule, done in a soft, unassuming way. maybe they'll want you all to get an RFID chip planted under your skin.


Firstly you need to do some homework
Yes UK got CCTV before the U.S.
But U.S. is getting RFID'ed before UK

it's just not going directly via govt. to people
it's going to you as an employee
all port authority employees or almost anyone working at the docks will need RFID, they are doing it at an employee level

this isn't happening in the UK yet

btw, I live in Canada bro
visiting UK only once

have a nice day


It is certainly bad in the U.S., but the U.K. is far worse.

www.guardian.co.uk...

They got the chip voluntarily just for some free drinks and a shorter line at the nightclub!!!!!

The populace doesn't understand what is going on, and it will be too late before they wake up.



posted on Jun, 4 2009 @ 03:15 PM
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Just when you think the UK couldn't surprise you any more.

They go and do this.

I wonder how far those people would have to be pushed before they would actually revolt, do they even have it in them any more?



posted on Jun, 4 2009 @ 03:57 PM
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Oh.... My.... God.... NAZISM FOR THE WIN!!!



posted on Jun, 4 2009 @ 04:04 PM
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Originally posted by Retseh
Just when you think the UK couldn't surprise you any more.

They go and do this.

I wonder how far those people would have to be pushed before they would actually revolt, do they even have it in them any more?
I was at the G20 protests/riot and believe me we will be fighting on the streets!

The british are strong people when it comes down to it,Look how much we have gone through for such a tiny island and that aint down to the A holes that run this country!




we shall fight on the seas and oceans,
we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the air, we shall defend our Island, whatever the cost may be,
we shall fight on the beaches,
we shall fight on the landing grounds,
we shall fight in the fields and in the streets,
we shall fight in the hills;
we shall never surrender, and even if, which I do not for a moment believe, this Island or a large part of it were subjugated and starving, then our Empire beyond the seas, armed and guarded by the British Fleet, would carry on the struggle, until, in God's good time, the New World, with all its power and might, steps forth to the rescue and the liberation of the old



posted on Jun, 4 2009 @ 04:08 PM
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Originally posted by Reading



we shall fight on the seas and oceans,
we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the air, we shall defend our Island, whatever the cost may be,
we shall fight on the beaches,
we shall fight on the landing grounds,
we shall fight in the fields and in the streets,
we shall fight in the hills;
we shall never surrender, and even if, which I do not for a moment believe, this Island or a large part of it were subjugated and starving, then our Empire beyond the seas, armed and guarded by the British Fleet, would carry on the struggle, until, in God's good time, the New World, with all its power and might, steps forth to the rescue and the liberation of the old


Incredible Spirit there my friend! Fight on! Thanks for posting that!



posted on Jun, 4 2009 @ 04:39 PM
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Originally posted by Reading

I was at the G20 protests/riot and believe me we will be fighting on the streets!

The british are strong people when it comes down to it,Look how much we have gone through for such a tiny island and that aint down to the A holes that run this country!


Well I wish you all the best for putting things right.

But one thing I've noticed is that no one ever says "it's those Labour bastards", just "those bastards in government".

I have a strange feeling that if this had happened under a Conservative government, you would be screaming about "Tory bastards".



posted on Jun, 4 2009 @ 04:48 PM
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I think over here we know both (all) the parties are as incompetent as eachover, Right now their is a big problem over our MP's expenses basicly they have robbed us blind claiming on expenses for such things as porn movies and even a moat came into it at some point


Its hard to describe the situation over here, everybody dislikes the goverment even the so called 'controlled' media has nothing good to say about the goverment

I just find myself asking who has gained from all of this mess? Because it certainly aint gordon brown or most MP'S because many of them have quit today, Its a strange one



posted on Jun, 4 2009 @ 06:13 PM
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You clearly know very little of England



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