im on board my friend i agree action needs to be taken. im from scotland peace

Count me in. Los Angeles California. If face to face meetings ever take place, bear in mind the slave masters will have under covers take place in this as well. Thats the thing that sucks, I can never fully trust any of you, and you can never fully trust me. We here on ATS are a group of people that cant trust each other, if you can then you shouldn't be here. So just all keep in mind, As bad as it sounds, dont trust anybody on here, the slave masters have moles all over this site.

just stop using money. it is nothing. it doesnt even exist. its numbers on a computer. bull paper printed by a company(company i.e. a group designed to make profits) and has no true power over your life. its a lie to make you all pay debt. each household owes $681,000 on the national debt.

and i think core values that most "ats-ers" or as i prefer to call them "people that arent blind" (i know many people like this) would share is pretty simple.

we are sick of being lied to.
we are sick of being ripped off.
we are sick of not being represented by the legislature in place to represent us. (the legislature that doesnt even exist)
we demand the truth.

i would assume we all believe that each man should live his life with as little interference from the government as possible. people should be able to do what they want as long as it doesnt effect other people in a negative way.

we believe each person is born with the RIGHT to certain freedoms. to have an equal chance at success as anyone else from birth.
the freedoms to speak your mind in any given place, at any given time.
the freedoms to keep a personal firearm for protection or recreation.
the freedoms to no unreasonable search/seizures, the right to habeas corpus, and all those others.

we believe the elite classes of this country have banded together in an attempt to suppress knowledge, limit personal freedoms, manipulate mass groups of people, slowly poison its inhabitants, and eventually to create a fascist nation ruled by an elite class of bankers, corporation owners, and "politicians"

we believe the people may have to rise up, and by politcal(doubtful) or forceful(doubtful) means, take back our country. all we need is the people. all the huge masses of people. once the government does somethin noticeably bad, and large numbers of people start questioning things. we need to make them understand that we cant be apathetic lazy machines. we have to stand up.

the american people have never really had to stand up and fight before, at least, not much of my generation. i have my doubts that we can. i know i'll be fightin til i die though.

those are things i think we can all agree on. we have to get over the petty bull# if we're gonna band together in any way.

you really think you couldnt hole up for 3 months with people with idealogical differences when you're both FIGHTING for the same IDEALS? when you both have the same primary concern? thats pathetic. its so much more imporant than that.



the rights given to us in our bill of rights have been taken away. they've slowly been taken away, and it will get worse. if you give em an inch, you know they'll take a mile. even if you didnt give them the inch they'd still take it. you givin them the inch just makes it easier for them.

they have the legal right to imprison people with no trial. if they're suspected of "terrorist acts" and are deemed a threat to this country.

well guess what. almost every single person on this website makes comments that could most definetly get you imprisoned. its doubtful it'll happen..pretty much 0%people talkin on the internet pose pretty much no threat to the establishment. but

but they have LEGAL RIGHTS to imprison you JUST for talking about this.
and whats our 1st amendment? Freedom of speech.

WE NEED TO RISE UP

but as i said i dont have much faith


if one of the number of things that could go wrong happens. let me rephrase that, WHEN one of those things happens, all theose arguments about abortion, gay marriage, drug laws, creationism, socialism, gun control, blah blah blah that # AINT GONNA MATTER anymore.

we're gonna have to band together, regardless of our differences. we'll have to suspend all our political correctness, and all this pointless arguing over those matters so insignificant that they dont even exist anyway, the matters created by the media for people to bicker over and seperate to belive there was big differences in political party ideas.



[edit on 6-6-2009 by whateverponcho]

see...people dont even talk about it..and you expect them to "rise up" and do somethin abou it?

I think the main way to beat these guys is for the masses to gain control of the monetary system, what you think?

[edit on 8-6-2009 by Toughiv]

I am glad we have a little leniency to talk. Thank you.

I would like to share some childhood experience in relation to part of an answer for your topic.. When I was a child I had a very clear walk with my, "higher power".

So much so that when someone asked me a question, though I allready had what might be a wise response for them I would ask God how he felt about it.

Every time He instantly showed me the true answer which was infinately higher, yet simpler, than my own. The lies/falsehood were exposed by this truth making it obviously wrong to move any other direction.

The moral to the story?
Fighting the lie is one way which is necessary many times. However revealing the truth exposes the lie in a way that demands the support of those choosing, or they are blatently fighting their own knowledge.

There is no help for them. These are only overcome by force. Otherwise; don't worry! They won't stop their advance upon the human race! The sad thing is our children will pay the price for our shortcomings.

In other words, please count me in..

I am an American. I whole-heartedly support Israel.

Count me in. Something needs to happend.

If you want to fight the NWO it is simple:

* Clean out & close your bankaccounts
* Destroy all your credit & ATM cards
* Destroy all your government issued ID cards
* Stop any payments to government including taxes
* Get out of debt if you can (if not simply move and assume another name)
* Stop using money all together
* Form diversy and tight communities of like minded people
* Arm yourself
* Grow your own food
* Filter your own water
* Get your children out of the system
* Save as many as you can

And do not worry, they cannot WACO everyone, especially if the communities are large enough.

Independence of the system is key.

If one in ten would do ths in the US, the financial system would collapse within a month, and we would be well on our way via a neo agrarian phase into a true and just society without the banksters and their political puppets.

If you are wondering: yes I am now part of such a community with exactly these goals.

T4H