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reply posted on 4-6-2009 @ 12:07 PM by Toughiv
reply to post by Sickle_And_Hammer



Glad to hear it. Im going to wait a bit, let everyone respond. Then once we know who is on board we can then start sorting out action plans



reply posted on 4-6-2009 @ 04:30 PM by getreadyalready
reply to post by Toughiv



www.abovetopsecret.com...

Link to Declaration of Independence 2009. To make it a viable platform, it would no doubt need a little polish, and a new name. But the ideals are perfect!

If we got 50 U S Representative sent to Washington next election, ATS, and the common people would be extremely well represented. Maybe we could head off a full-fledged revolution as people are calling for, in favor of a legal coup! Maybe the in the following election we could get some Modern Sense Governors and Senators!


reply posted on 5-6-2009 @ 03:27 AM by Toughiv
reply to post by thewind



I completely understand where you are coming from. Thats why I said this isnt a quick fix.

What im saying is, we need to take action. We can get people in the scenes, not just voting. People actually involved. As you said, its not who votes, its who counts the votes. I am proposing we try to aim to become those who count the votes!

What you think?

Cheers

Brad


reply posted on 5-6-2009 @ 03:49 AM by blind.face
Well, since you asked, I will add what I feel to be relevant on the matter..

I am still not convinced that there is some conspiracy by little old men to run the world (please don't flame that comment, let me explain)..

I don't have to believe that to jump on board to this, I know something needs to be done. I see a world government emerging.. I see the common man and woman being left out of our leaders plans. That isn't a conspiracy theory, that is a fact. Our Constitution is not in the process of being destroyed; it already has been.

I am a survivalist at heart- a realist that is ever prepared. Independent, and as free as I allow myself to be.

I am willing to join in and help. I am willing to take action. I am willing to do whatever it takes to make sure my country remains what it was set out to be.

Now, with that said. I fully believe that organization is needed.. a must.

I do not however, feel that voting, protests, and handing out pamphlets or free videos is the way to go. When I say it's time for action, I mean it is time for action that may not be as peaceful as some would like to hear.

They have control.. they don't care about petitions or bullhorn activists.

I fully believe that the only way to get America back on track is the way it was placed on track in our history.

Again, I am a realist, and realize that it is not that simple. I live with that fact.. and take others opinions on the matter in an open way. No matter what, I know that I am a free man, tomorrow I will be a free man. I will die a free man. I choose that. When people start realizing that 'us vs them' is not liberal vs conservative or Muslim vs Christian vs Atheist (input your conflict to suit your needs/preference).. it's about us vs them, being free vs being oppressed.

It is my belief that our Bill of Rights were God given, meaning only God has the right to take them away. It doesn't matter if others share that belief.. it is mine. That is freedom, and I will do everything in my power to retain that until my heart takes it's last pound.

I thank you OP for your post.. it is a great topic, and I look forward to following it with interest.

S&F for you.

[edit on 6/5/2009 by blind.face]


reply posted on 5-6-2009 @ 04:04 AM by Edrick
I just have to say, if your plan in any way involves "Putting Someone in Power"
Then you have already lost.

The "System" Belongs to them.

They own it lock stock and barrel.

You all know this.

Placing all of your hopes for a better future on ONE *EASILY BLACKMAILED, BRIBED, THREATENED, OR CORRUPTED* official is not going to help you at all.

In order to defeat this system you have to be aware of only one thing.

What powers the system?


Easy.... WE do.



Their power and control grid could not function without the vast majority busily plodding out their lives in the service of it.

You want to stop the system?

Grow your own food, teach other how to do the same.

Pull your kids out of public schooling, and teach them yourselves.

Break your television, and never watch its poisoning influence again.

Seriously... what power do LEADERS really have?

They only have ONE power... and that is their FOLLOWERS.

You diminish their power, by taking their followers from them.

You guard against their influence by teaching people to think for themselves, and to not believe what they hear without question.

And most importantly... you MUST NOT FEAR.

Fear is their primary weapon.

"Don't go against them or they might kill you."

"Or they might ruin your life."

"OR they might kill your children or ruin their lives."

I got news for you.

You are already dead.

So are your children.

Our lives are ALREADY ruined, and so are our children's.


If everyone fears for their individual safety, then ALL are in jeapordy, because no one will risk helping another.


If we do not fear Death, Ridicule, Isolation, Financial insecurity, or SHAME... then they CANNOT stop us.


Oh, and one more thing....

Do you know what THEY fear?


They fear an enlightened, informed populous, capable of organization, and resistance/armed rebellion.

There are many who say that to resist (violently) is to play into their hands.

And this is a load of rubbish.

IF they did not fear WE THE PEOPLE rising against them, they would not be hiding their plans, and they would not be working so slowly.

THEY FEAR US.

DO NOT FEAR THEM.

Stop powering their system with your labors, and convince others to do the same.

Fight their Emotional arguments that take your liberties AT EVERY TURN.

Remember, WE do not need them... THEY NEED US.


-Edrick


reply posted on 5-6-2009 @ 04:27 AM by Gemwolf
reply to post by blind.face



There hasn't been any actual "recruiting", but at some point there may be a suggestion to start a petition list, or a suggestion to phone certain people, then we're talking "activist recruiting".

Activism, in a general sense, can be described as intentional action to bring about social or political change. This action is in support of, or opposition to, one side of an often controversial argument.


We'll leave the thread open for now to discuss possible actions that can taken to "counter-act the NWO", but the moment the thread turns into an organized movement of action against a person or persons we'll have to remove the thread.


reply posted on 5-6-2009 @ 04:30 AM by blind.face
reply to post by Gemwolf



offtopic reply: Thank you for clearing that up. I understand and respect where you are coming from now, and I thank you for your response.

back on topic: Please, everyone.. thing about what you are posting before you post it here- I think this is a very good topic, and I personally would like to see it stay open.



reply posted on 5-6-2009 @ 07:55 AM by Toughiv
reply to post by getreadyalready



Could you link the decleration 2009?

Also, I dont think you will find many common core beliefs amongst people. Values and beliefs are cultural. Look up Alasdair MacIntyre Virtue Ethics.

en.wikipedia.org...

Great ideas, keep them comming.


reply posted on 5-6-2009 @ 08:00 AM by getreadyalready
reply to post by getreadyalready



www.abovetopsecret.com...

I linked it earlier, but here you go.

And I agree that there is a lot of difference of opinion everywhere, especially here. But, as I read the threads, there is a commonality between people, between threads, between topics. I just can't define it. That system of "CORE" beliefs is what I am after. All the world's religions have a similar set of core underlying principles.

How do we tap in and find what is fundamentally important to everyone, define it, and point it out so people can understand they are not so different!?


reply posted on 5-6-2009 @ 08:02 AM by The Shade
reply to post by Toughiv



The best way to motivate people is music or frequencies! That is all I am saying... If you need help u2u me!

[edit on 5-6-2009 by The Shade]
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