reply to post by fullmoonfairy
Hoping you are dealing well with your brothers illness, my prayers for his health FullMoonFairy.
As you know the thought of an easily transmitable sort of this disease is way of the scale as far as trouble goes!
For all BUMP, and just to add what I said Here
What really worries me about this is that there has for many many years been real confusion to even the experts as far as HIV and AIDS and the links
go, After having read, and thought about it much, explored and studied I am still very unsure about the factual evidense that in Fact HIv does cause
AIDs Virus, (where several diseases AND the HIV virus are present means you are classified as having AIDS) ...
New research from earlier concerns does seem to have strengthened the case for a HIV AIDS conclusive link, but the mechanism is still unknown, and it
really is a very little understod area.
Infact still the possibility exists that HIV is not the cause of AIDS, as shown in a previous thread, the NY times article below etc...
I really think people do not understand the real division in the scientific cmmunity about this, and also the amount of unknowns about AIDS in
..............And that maybe having been in the human population for so long, the real driver of AIDS still undiscovered has now allowed mutation to
allow easily human to human contact.....
To pad out what I say above,
New York Times 1992
Doctors Find AIDS-Like Disease Without H.I.V. Virus Is Growing
That is Virologists and leading AIDs / HIV experts reporting those cases in the US France Uk etc from around the world 13 yrs ago....
Now as well some very highly regarded, and experts at this filed also have faced scorne for speaking their truth:
Dr. Kary Mullis, Biochemist, 1993 Nobel Prize for Chemistry.
"If there is evidence that HIV causes AIDS, there should be scientific documents which either singly or collectively demonstrate that fact, at least
with a high probability. There is no such document."
Dr. Heinz Ludwig Sanger, Emeritus Professor of Molecular Biology and Virology, Max-Planck-Institutes for Biochemy, Munchen
"Up to today there is actually no single scientifically really convincing evidence for the existence of HIV. Not even once such a retrovirus has been
isolated and purified by the methods of classical virology."
And a very good 2 sided debate with REFERENCED PEER reveiewed sources from both sides of the argument can be found below as published in the world
wide and leading publication
July 29, 1988.
HIV is in violation of Koch's first postulate because it is not possible to detect free virus (1, 2), provirus (3-5), or viral RNA (4, 6, 7) in all
cases of AIDS. Indeed, the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) has established guidelines to diagnose AIDS when all laboratory evidence for HIV is
Please veiw the entie article for the replies to such claims, and also to see the sources as refered, to all of very high calibre!
Also a offer of a cash reward for anyone who can isolate the HIV virus, which is what happens in classic and normal virology and work, like the recent
H1N1 and every year for the new flu vaccine etc...
Blind romantics still believe HIV causes AIDS.
But if 'HIV' has never been isolated, what is
Never isolated? You bet! A cash prize of £ 1000
is offered to the first person finding one scien-
tific paper establishing actual isolation of HIV.
If you or a friendly 'AIDS expert' can prove
isolation, £ 1000 is yours. In cash. In public.
So infact is this just a "New Flu" but really the New aids, it has mtated, we have been down a blind alley with HIV for all these years anyhow, and
now its easily communicable?
This is another reason I find this very very worrying indeed, the RSOE site says now that
People are infected with this virus.
So what is really going on?
These following links may startle some people if they have followed MSM for many years on this issue.
The link does seem to be there, but is HIV actually the cause or a side tracked blind alley?
So just FYI and to look at the possibilities this new virus may not be as new as we think! Just a changing little understoof current one that could be
knonw or unknown, and that besides a few people like Magic Johnson generally will ensure you die before you time.
Biology Online Forum There is no HIV AIDS link
Dr. Eleni Papadopulos is a biophysicist and leader of a group of HIV/AIDS
scientists from Perth in Western Australia. Over the past decade and more she and her colleagues have published many scientific papers questioning the
HIV/AIDS hypothesis. This interview by Christine Johnson looks at this work and especially her group's views on the AIDS virus itself.
“HIV” tests are self-fulfilling prophecies (“HIV” tests are self-fulfilling prophecies, 10 May 2009).
Those prophecies are particularly powerful since the actual physical tests are demonstrably invalid (“HIV” tests are demonstrably invalid, 19 May
2009). That’s not all [elf- READ This Recent and Intriguing!elf].
As you can see I am worried for may different reasons....
600 so far well that means it out, and China therefore Worldwide.
[edit on 4-6-2009 by MischeviousElf]