I don't care much for these images, its just too easy to manipulate and to be honest, I don't see exactly what their saying is there.

But from those linked video's one piece of footage did make me sit up and take notice, and that is the footage of the brightly glowing object in the desert, first skimming the ground in a slight crash, going up again and then truly hitting the ground with immense force.

That does in no way look fake to me. Absolutely amazing footage that would be hard for anyone to deny.

If anyone has more info on that particular piece it would be muchly appreciated.

Not wanting to offend anyone, I just don't buy these moon images. For a piece of rock to be pounded the way it has, over such a long period, buy meteorites and God knows what else, it isn't surprising to come up with all sorts of fanciful looking 'objects' on its battered surface.

But the short film of that glowing disk crashing? WOW just WOW!

I love the projectile being shot at the object footage. Probably one of my all time favorites. I also love some of the excuses that NASA has come up with for this incident. Let's face it, space debris does not make evasive maneuvers...period. That's like saying the bird crap that landed on my arm last week could have avoided me. Anyhow, good video.

This was hoaxed by a french guy called THIERRY SPETH aka retiredafb. This has been thoroughly debunked. Its a camera sweep over a 2D image followed by his clay model. His other clips are even more ridiculous, including a dummy female alien with q-tips on her face, LOL. And dont forget the legless floating Leonov, haha.

The only clip of his (?) worth mentioning is showing the supposed appollo 20 astronauts (?) entering the module. This clip is the most elaborate one and must have cost him quite a sum to produce, or he might have gotten it from another source. There is a miniscule chance that this clip is real, but shows simply some REAL NASA mission or training or something, NOT Apollo 20, lol.

Originally posted by KEMIK
I love the projectile being shot at the object footage. Probably one of my all time favorites. I also love some of the excuses that NASA has come up with for this incident. Let's face it, space debris does not make evasive maneuvers...period. That's like saying the bird crap that landed on my arm last week could have avoided me. Anyhow, good video.

I don't think the bird crap that landed on your arm last week could have been pushed off course by the exhaust of a space shuttle.

I may be the only one with an eye for scale, but the object in question is a small model. You can clearly tell it's no more than a foot long and the camera work also gives it away, it doesn't register on camera as a massive object, the motion of the camera and look of the entire scene would be so different. This is absolutely a hoax if you ask me.

never forget the Motto..

I WANT TO BELEIVE


lets pray that we are close for something new..disclosure?..alien landing?

The video footage of the "massive cigar shaped craft" has been here on ATS once or twice and has been strongly debated by all sides of the UFO argument. Unfortunately, almost every time people are shown what makes that video an obvious fake. I'll simply use one example. The camera is shakey as it's apparently zoomed in on the craft. Thats well and good but those numbers and lines that you see in the frame are not part of the video feed or on the lense. Those numbers and lines are actually meant to represent what the window looks like on the lander. If the camera were actually shaking like that in the lander, the numbers would not remain stationary on the screen. They would appear to shake just as violently as the supposed "craft" on the "moon". It would seem he's either added these numbers and lines as an aftereffect, or he taped something to his lense with the numbers and lines to make it look more "official". Many have agreed that this is simply a model and was produced by a known hoaxer: "Retiredafb" as he's known on youtube. Also look up Mona Lisa EBE and its production flaws. The first 7 or so mins of this video that you posted does seem to be some nice raw footage though.

S+F for sure.

Best video material I've seen in a loooooong time!

Fantastic find OP, keep up the good work!

Going to twitter it to the masses

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Originally posted by Faiol
the problem with the ufo fenomena is the hoaxers ...

Well, maybe the real problem is not the hoaxers, but the eager hoaxees.