The US is not declining because of Fat, Dumb or Lazy Americans!
“Although the United States is likely to remain the single most powerful actor, the United States' relative strength -- even in the military realm -- will decline and U.S. leverage will become more constrained.”
The report, "Global Trends 2025: A Transformed World," was drafted by the National Intelligence Council to better inform U.S. policymakers -- starting with the incoming administration of President-elect Barack Obama -- about the factors most likely to shape major international trends and conflicts through the year 2025.
“gutting, hollowing out and closing down, American manufacturing forever.” Our national resiliency is going to be sorely tested as we face the destruction and collapse of American Industry.
This year China's trade deficit with the United States is expected to top $250bn, as imports flood in and exports fail to find a market with Chinese consumers.
In return, jobs have flowed into China from the US, a trend both US presidential candidates have vowed to reverse.
But how serious is the problem facing the next American President and beyond the political rhetoric, is there anything he can really do?
In the third of his special series, Tony Cheng traveled to the heartland of US heavy industry to find out.
Originally posted by Dermo
Also.. having tripolar economic power as China joins in instead of just the US/EU will mean more money, jobs and explosive global growth in the next decade as the Chinese and Indian grow quickly into consumer economies..
Our evolution will speed up exponentially and I look forward to seeing how the planet looks in fifty years.
Originally posted by Badfuture
I don't think it's the end nor do I think that you will go the way of Russia, call it blind faith but I think America will crack sustainable alternate energy first.
Of coarse with my tinfoil hat on, the real agenda to collaspe the US is to add a bit more chaos to an already chaotic world.
Once they fill us all full of enough fear they will offer a one world govt and then the enslavement begins.
Originally posted by one4all
I would like to give you one canadians view of things. America is a hostile nation when its values are threatened,it is a Nation which has given the world some incredibly important gifts in terms of free will,free speech,and freedom of expression in every way,however the country is corrupted by money and power like all countries of the world so above and beyond the usual corruption such a young nation has achieved incredible things. They are a good neighbor. They encountered conflict during their childhood as a nation but they get full marks because they are still only pre-teens compared to other world superpowers yet they are so mature in other areas of their humanitarian developement.
However big guns are only big guns, they make you feel safe but you might want to ask Custers troops if guns are the only thing that can kill you. America heralded the nuke age and they must now see it out as history leaves it behind. The gunslinger days are over and it is time to begin the big cleanup America must do to survive, I mean cleaning up the babyboomers mess that they are leaving behind.Democracy is safe forever the Duke can go to sleep now, the world has adopted the western way but now its time to change again,no one likes a bully even if they are doing good things when they arent busy doing bad things. Did I mention that we Have a lot of room here in Canada and everyone in America is welcome here, we are like kissing cousins anways. Please just leave your guns and grenades at the border.
China,is also a hostile nation when its values are threatened, china has a long history compared to the US so it is hard to compare the two in terms of contribution vs age or maturity level. But I will say that China has given the world gifts that are so highly numbered that I wont offer any comparison at all, however I must add that it took thousands of years to give those gifts and it has been a very long time since china has contributed what would be considered its fair share to the present day world.
China has in fact done what Russia did and will end up in a social political state of restructure soon unless they change right now, but they cant change right now simply because chinas growth patterns always contain a healthy dose of warfare and aquisition of resources. The world will not accept the type of growth that china needs experience to become the future world power it wishes to aspire to be. Never again, because the world as a whole now condems the type of war largely populated powerful countries need to wage to survive.
So China MUST CHANGE NOW and adopt a more current global perspective and possible stop referring to democracy as being American and study a little history,if anything blame democracy on the romans if you need to blame the path to humanities future on someone. On that note so I dont offend anyone, china needs to become a lot more like the ROMANS or they wont survive to become the great leader they wish to be.
Making excuses for atrocities committed against your people by pointing out that someone else previously made the same error is actually admitting weakness and inability to learn and I will say that for a country with a history as long proud and decorated as Chinas is It is disappointing to hear these things. The only way china can CATCH UP ON ALL OF THE PROGRESS IT HAS LOST GROUND ON WITH THE OTHER SUPERPOWERS IS TO CHANGE THE WAY IT VIEWS ITSELF AND TO START TO ACCEPT RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE LAST HUNDRED OR SO YEARS,PULL UP ITS PANTS,START TO MAKE FRIENDS INSTEAD OF ALLYS AND ACCEPT THAT THE WORLD WILL NOT ALLOW ANOTHER WAR SO THE COUNTRIES GROWTH WILL HAVE TO BE SUPPORTED THROUGH FRIENDSHIPS.
Political differences aside, as a canadian I can tell you that everyone can count numbers so we are all aware of the population dynamics of our planet and this means we are all aware of the reasons certain nations have proliferated nuclear weapons. Numbers dont count when you drop a nuke. The nuclear age changed Chinas path forever,it had nothing to do with Democracy or Communism. Had china aquired nukes first we would all be learning mandarin, thats just reality.With Global proliferation of weapons of mass destruction chinas ability to move forward with proper growth and living conditions for its people ended forever because nothing can ever be gained through war again without destroying the planet. The only thing left is to become Canadian and we have room for everyone,we love the world and as long as you leave your guns and swords at the border you are welcome here any time.
Originally posted by SLAYER69
Dont get too excited China has already pasted the US as far as the largest polluter and their growth hasnt even really started yet.
Stay tuned on that one. Also pay close attention to central Asia
Originally posted by jokei
Awesome, cheers for your reply, I think it's helped clarify things (think???)... I'm getting at the idea that this system is based on growth year on year and that it can only go on for a finite amount of time.
Originally posted by Dermo
Central Asia? As in Pakistan etc? Or India? India is not too far off China.. thats why I am so confident that between them, an extra 2.5 billion people will create a serious consumer base for the 800million odd people of the EU/US. We'll just have to wait and see.. and hope lol.