Gay penguins hatch rejected egg

Originally posted by KarlG

Originally posted by reject
reply to post by KarlG

 

what?! there are gay chromosomes now? X/Y for straight; x/y for gay? Did an advanced alien race teach you that?

Umm... no... biology class taught me that.

Taking "being gay" as a trait like, say, "having blue eyes", or "being blond", or "dwarfism", then, yes, this IS how it works.

Why are you "loL'-ing at me? I would think you are the person who needs to go outside and learn more.

Bewildering...

there is no such thing as a gay gene

prove it? you cant cuz its all fantasy

being gay or straight is purely a mental choice

either you choose to or not to, its really simple

being gay or straight is a Choice!!

reply to post by KarlG


So the scientists have identified the gene that causes like-sexualness, and animals, including us, can be tested to see what we carry in our genetic makeup? Or is this just a general description of how it would work if the scientists should ever discover this 'gay gene'?

Originally posted by KarlG
reply to post by constantwonder

 

Whoops. Misunderstanding.

*sheepish*

Errrrrm... no offense, but mayb try to write it a little clearer??

no offense taken...its hilarious. Capital X/Y for straight; small x/y for gay...smack your biology teacher upside the head when you run into each other...

you'd think a biology teacher would know better about chromosomes and genes...thank goodness I didn't do any learning from that person

or maybe your teacher was the one who was taught by aliens this during an abduction-probe

[edit on 3-6-2009 by reject]

Originally posted by Deaf Alien

There is ample research to show that homosexuality is a population control measure.

that is circumstantial evidence and does not directly correlate to the presence of a genetic factor

when you give a dog a slice of pizza, and the dog has NEVER seen pizza before in it's life, the dog will tend to eat the pizza anyway

i know some of you may think, "well gee golly, dogs must have a gene that makes them like pizza alot"
but i cannot help but disagree

you do not need a gene to like pizza or to be gay, its simply a choice and based mostly on "taste"

reply to post by muzzleflash

being gay or straight is purely a mental choice either you choose to or not to, its really simple

I see.

So when you were a kid, you just woke up and decided that you liked girls? The boys were not to your liking?

Yeah I can see this: "The boys gross me out. The thought of me having relationship with them sicken me. I decide that the girls are attractive to me"

Sure sure you go on thinking that. Sure you have decided that the girls are attractive to you one day.

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You "foe" me cause I provided you with evidence and scientific material.

Outstanding!

Edit to add: Homosexuality in the animal kingdom, it's either genetic or god did it, it's your choice.

[edit on 3 Jun 2009 by schrodingers dog]

woah ,

everybody came down on me there

Heres all i think about the issue,

1. as far as i know no gene has been isoloated to show that homosexuality is genetic (feel free to educate me on this if im wrong)

that pretty much sums up what i know about the genetic argument here.

As far as nature or nurture im going to have to say i cant argue either way with any certainty.

i will say however that even if homosexuality is a geneticly inherited trait, that all homosexuals may not be geneticaly gay. Im sure there are some who have chosen homosexuality. Although the evidence i have of this is from female individuals.

SO i guess sdog id say that in general encompassing all who are homosexual bisexual (insert other snappy label) that its both nature and nurture. Some born some chose

but this is mho based solely on what i understand about the subject

reply to post by schrodingers dog



Poor choice of words on my end; I'm aware of homosexuality in nature, and I'm totally cool with it, but does that mean we shouldn't question the authenticity or intent of media stories?
Perhaps these penguins are just good buddies and someone's turning it into something that fits their agenda?
Kinda like the when pro-lifers rallied at 'Horton Hears a Who' showings...

Just to be clear with where I stand: I think the biggest disgrace to the "Sanctity of Marriage" is the archaic "Prop 8" and the divorce rate... Never before was the word 'marriage' tainted with so much hatred and venom...

Equal rights for All does not include any fine print with excuses or exceptions in my book.

Originally posted by Deaf Alien


I see.

So when you were a kid, you just woke up and decided that you liked girls? The boys were not to your liking?

No.

When i was a kid i was not sexually active.

Around 12-13 after puberty, i realized that Porn was awesome.

And I choose women because I like making babies. Tyvm.

Thats a choice btw.

Originally posted by muzzleflash
being gay or straight is a Choice!!

What are you and when did you decide it?

I think the only people who really have a "choice" are bisexuals.


Trying to find what "causes" heterosexuality or homosexuality is like trying to find what "causes" us to be happy or sad: there is whole range of influences that have to be considered, including hormones (especially in the womb), brain function, genes, social interactions, cultural acceptance, and others. In ancient Greece it was widely accepted and so many more people participated in homosexual relationships. In more backwards countries, homosexuals are executed, just as slavery is still legal in many backwards countries, and they still have dictators, etc.

The overall pattern people should realize is that learning to be comfortable with others who are different is a GOOD thing. People in cities have to learn to be comfortable with many different people, and people in rural areas do not, which is why most discriminating people are at least half redneck. I say go back and live in the woods and come back out when you're willing to grow up.

Oh and by the way ...

They haven't found the pollen allergy gene in humans or penguins either ...

I guess that makes allergies a lifestyle choice.

so according to this genetic theory

Monks must be born genetically celibate

Prostitutes must be born genetically disposed to, well, do what they do.

any other form of "sexuality" must be genetic also?

like a rapist is genetically disposed to rape people?

i am not comparing homosexuality to rape (totally different)
and i am not comparing homosexuality to celibacy(different)

But what I am comparing, is that if ONE of these things (homosexuality) is GENETIC , than it only follows that SOME of these other "Sexual Lifestyles" like Celibacy would ALSO be genetic no?

if not plz explain why, thanks
and include all examples so we can see where it goes in each situation

reply to post by schrodingers dog


Now I know why I never get allergies: I choose not to!

Now I'm going to start telling everyone I know with allergies to cut that crap out, stop being such sissies.


reply to post by muzzleflash


You admit all those things are different, so why does it follow that they should have all the exact same causes? And if you admit they don't have to, then there is no point at all to your argument. Like I said in my last post, there is a range of influences and relationships that have all been proven but do not contradict each other, they are simply multiple influences that cause a certain result, namely human behavior.

[edit on 3-6-2009 by bsbray11]

Originally posted by schrodingers dog
Oh and by the way ...

They haven't found the pollen allergy gene in humans or penguins either ...

I guess that makes allergies a lifestyle choice.

no its a chemical reaction

neither genetic or a choice

pure chemistry there...

Originally posted by muzzleflash

Originally posted by Deaf Alien


I see.

So when you were a kid, you just woke up and decided that you liked girls? The boys were not to your liking?

No.

When i was a kid i was not sexually active.

Around 12-13 after puberty, i realized that Porn was awesome.

And I choose women because I like making babies. Tyvm.

Thats a choice btw.

Wow, you have missed my point.

Okay.

Tell me this...

Are you capable of making a decision to become an homosexual? Are you capable of deciding to have a sexual relations with another man?

Basically you are arguing that.

reply to post by bsbray11


you cannot tell me i have no choice where i put my wee wee

that is 100% choice and if you argue that I have no choice in where my thingy goes, well im afraid you do not understand how it works

what are you female? you do kinda "need 1" to know how it works after all...

Originally posted by muzzleflash

Originally posted by schrodingers dog
Oh and by the way ...

They haven't found the pollen allergy gene in humans or penguins either ...

I guess that makes allergies a lifestyle choice.

no its a chemical reaction

neither genetic or a choice

pure chemistry there...

Oh for science's sake muzzleflash ...

Deoxyribonucleic acid (DNA) is a nucleic acid that contains the genetic instructions used in the development and functioning of all known living organisms and some viruses. *

Please don't make me google "chemistry."

Originally posted by Deaf Alien

Are you capable of making a decision to become an homosexual? Are you capable of deciding to have a sexual relations with another man?

Basically you are arguing that.

ya being gay is easy, all i gotta do is get off to someone of the same sex

you could switch back and forth all day if u wanted to even (bisexuals)

its 100% choice

heck you could even choose to lust after Apple Pies, Barn Yard Animals, Cartoons or Anime, Dead people, whatever

people have sex with whatever they choose to put their"thingy" on

i personally choose to stick with my wife tho, but thats 100% my choice

[edit on 3-6-2009 by muzzleflash]

reply to post by schrodingers dog


true your right

genetics IS chemistry

reply to post by muzzleflash


Heterosexuality and homosexuality do not boil down to where someone chooses to stick their penis. Psychologists define homosexuality as a ROMANTIC attraction to members of the same sex. That means two guys fooling around, experimenting, does NOT technically make them gay (unless you have your own personal definition, then there is no use trying to talk to you logically), though that IS a choice.

A gay guy can go out and have sex with a girl (if he can get it up). And still technically be gay. Because the difference is, he doesn't FEEL like going out and having sex with women, the same way you don't FEEL like going out and having sex with men. You say it's a choice but I doubt it's a choice you put much "thought" behind. More like you saw a naked woman and felt your pants get tight, and that's all the "thinking" you had to do with any head. If that is the pinnacle of your mental decision-making process then I can see why you have such a hard time understanding other people.