a look at the other side: My Near Death Experience..., page 4


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reply posted on 3-6-2009 @ 08:43 PM by MischeviousElf
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Originally posted by Odessy


A couple of Buddhist monks took it once for scientific research and says it took them to a place they have visited many times before through states of deep meditation, and took them as far as you can go into the Bardo without dieing (the first stage of death).



Do you have a source for that please Oddessy.

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Please.
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OP great thread S+F been there myself last day of nov 2004 3 times ICU for 7 days afterwards Coma, again doctors saying will be a "vegatable" etc never walk or talk again....

Lol woke from ICU walked out unaided from hospital dec 22nd 2004... retunred once for one minor cosmetic procedure.

Again I dont talk about it much as "nutter" etc or ridicule, same type of experience all events from everyones and everthings perspective... how it made them feel, plus some other stuff.

All there truly is , Is Unconditional Love and the Now.

The rest is an mind projection illusion.

On the bardo and Buddhist thing above this man has whilst "Clean" reached the highest states of Bardo possible, and is probaly the most enlightened (known or public) humans of the last generation, talking about it below....many many many years in retreat meditation and realised full Mahamudra in one 10 year retreat, he also was a very special or highly evolved part of the one when born to, he has since the below was made passed from the earth plane.

His actual description is on 5mins 50 of the following clip from the wonderfull docu " the Yogis of Tibet"



njoy

Love to All
Elf

[edit on 3-6-2009 by MischeviousElf]



reply posted on 3-6-2009 @ 08:45 PM by the seeker_713g
Originally posted by Odessy
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post by the seeker_713g



Hey Seeker,
Thanks for sharing your story.
I have a few questions for you if you wouldnt mind answering.

What "religion," if any, were you before the experience and did the experience change that?
yes,friend, i had been what is commonly called a hardshell baptist; and it did change me, for i do not believe in religion now; the Creator is interested in your spirituality, not what religion,if any,that you follow; they are all works of man,not of the Creator.


Was religion of any kind mentioned while you were in this "heaven"?
the only mention was as i stated above, that it is not of interest to the Creator when I asked which was the true and proper religion, for the answer was none.

Why did these people show you your bad deeds? Were they judging you?


again, trying not to repeat myself too much, i was shown them and experienced them as the ones i committed the bad deeds to did; the only one that judged me was me, and I did judge myself openly and truthfully.

thanks,friend, and i hope my answers do answer your questions satisfactorily.

seeker


reply posted on 3-6-2009 @ 09:07 PM by _Phoenix_
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Thanks for sharing!

When they showed your past experiences, did they show you anythign you forgot and seeing it again it refreshed your memory?

You say they showed you previous life cycles even from other places, remmeber anything about that? details?

What needs to be changed for us to move upwards and onward towards home?

Thanks!

Edit: I see you've already answered the last question, ignore that then.

[edit on 3-6-2009 by _Phoenix_]


reply posted on 3-6-2009 @ 09:15 PM by phi1618
Originally posted by badBERTHA
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post by the seeker_713g



As an additional point, my next door neighbour died of a heart attack on the operating table for roughly 30mins also and like you they weren't sure how he would be when regained life/consciousness but he is pretty much fine no motor or brain damage. I asked if he had an NDE and he said no that he had no recollection of anything at all. Why do you think that some experience this and not others?

[edit on 3-6-2009 by badBERTHA]


I have a theory on this, why some experience a NDE and other do not. It has the do with the number of simultaneous reincarnation the higher self experiences at one time. Its alot like when someone find a soul mate, the word stems from exactly that.....It is YOUR SOUL mate.

The soul gains more knowledge this way.

perhaps seeker is one of the singular reincarnations so he experienced a stronger link to his higher self.

or

the guy in question simply doesnt remember.

it is also possible to reconnect with your higher self without actually dieing. In meditation when a deep trance is reached it requires only willpower to reach a state at which you are at peace.

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[edit on 3-6-2009 by phi1618]


reply posted on 3-6-2009 @ 09:20 PM by smashenator










reply posted on 3-6-2009 @ 09:27 PM by _Phoenix_
Originally posted by the seeker_713g
reply to
post by DarrylGalasso


Daryl my friend, our thoughts and healing light goes out to you; thanks for your thoughts, and I am very happy that my words have aided you in this time of stress and worry. May all here wish you an easy path thru this, a speedy recovery, and a quick return to here among us.


seeker


Yeah, I wish you well too.

Don't be too quick coming back here, take your time haha Just let us know how you are when you feel like it.




reply posted on 3-6-2009 @ 09:41 PM by Inspiration1911
Here is another interesting NDE (OBE) of a man named Ernie Knoll. It is very interesting to watch as he describes the city of Heaven....he even says we can "Choose" to eat for pleasure or not. He also says he saw his family members who had passed & also people who he did not know.

There are 28 PARTS;;

www.youtube.com...

That some of these people were really really TALL....as in the bible describes during Noahs time. Did you see anybody or anything that was different in nature that you could describe?

Knoll states that the "Great Host" would do ALL to have him their to SERVE HIM.
When I 1st heard that my heart melted because at the time I would think I would want to serve him not the other way around.....and thats when I came to the conclusion that life is truely about serving "Others" & not ourselves.
BTW the "Great HOST" was Jesus who was at the table serving him Grape Juice by walking through,under, above, around the table.

I do believe your OBE because of these similarities presented here. My Uncle also died in the Hospital with his Heart in the doctors hand trying to "PUMP" it back to life. The other doctor said that he was already gone but the doctor said he could feel him coming back...and he did.

My uncle said that he saw Parallel Universes & his family in heaven & earth & other dimensions ALL at the SAME TIME!?

From my own experiences I know these are all true, but my question to OP is if the Elders explained to you about HELL...and who or What goes their?

Thanks for your insights,
Ispiration


reply posted on 3-6-2009 @ 09:53 PM by candide
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You are completely correct. I left my church after my NDE, but it was mainly due to my new sensitivity to negative messages. Sermons explaining why other slightly different versions of christianity/gays/people who didn't act like lawyers with the scripture were all going to hell. It was disturbing.

Religion can be a wonderful tool to help better yourself as well as connect you with those that can be helped. You just need to get with the right group of people.


reply posted on 3-6-2009 @ 10:05 PM by liveandlearn
reply to post by the seeker_713g


Thank you for you wonderful, enlightening post.

I have never had a NDE. However I once had a car accident and thought I would die. There was no fear, just an incredible sense of peace. Being an ex fundamental Baptist, like you, I remembered a book I had read about Corrie Ten Boom as she was getting on a train. She asked her father how could she go because she didn't have a ticket and he told her she would get the ticket when it was needed. That is the way I felt about the peace, I got it when I needed it. I have never feared death since.



worry about if you get to move ahead or have to repeat a grade.


And with that said, my life has been so hard, I fear repeating this cycle more than anything. I DO NOT want to go through this life again yet fear I have not made enough right choices.
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